Everyone in Rutherglen knows someone who was a good footballer.

There have been generations of good players who played the Beautiful Game. Maybe it was a school friend, or someone who lived in your street, or someone you worked with, or maybe it was one of your family, your granddad, brother, cousin.

This site poses the question: Who is the Greatest Footballer to have come from Rutherglen?

Selection Criteria:

The selection criteria is that the player must have been born, went to school, or lived within the Royal Burgh boundaries for more than 10 years. He must think of himself as a real Ruglonian. Rutherglen is a town of approx 26,000 people near Glasgow in Scotland.

It does NOT need to have been someone who made the top grade in football and played at a professional level. We all know someone who should have been a great player, but got lost along the way to Wine, Women, Song, or the Bookies.

The purpose of this site was initially for people to nominate players, and then vote for Rutherglen's Greatest Player! This is now where you can see the results of that process, and where you can share your comments, stories and pictures of all the great players who came from Rutherglen.

Each vote was collated, and the top players in each position (3-5-2, 1 Goalkeeper, 3 Defenders, 5 Midfielders and 2 strikers) took their places in the Greatest Rutherglen XI.

Robert Harvey

Have Your Say

The site originally had a comment function, which has now been disabled. But hundreds of the orginal notes, quotes, and anecdotes from the Team Page were preserved , and you can view them here. Just click on the "View Archive" button to expand the original comments. We have included a Disqus comment section below that, so that you can comment again! You just need to sign up with Disqus, which you can do with an email address or social media.

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Posted By Denis McWilliams
Thursday 3rd of March 2016
Matt Murdoch is not on your list? What a talent! James Murdoch and I have both got a Scottish medal that Kenny Dalglish never got!
Posted By The Ballwinner
Thursday 1st of October 2015
Tommy Bennett was such a good player he could nutmeg a mermaid.
Posted By Gerry
Saturday 3rd of October 2015
Wee Tommy McGuire was some player. The Mighty Mouse never lost a tackle. Fit fast and determined. If you had eleven Tommy McGuire’s in your team, you would never get beat.
Posted By Polo Mint
Saturday 3rd of October 2015
Martin Leggat was some goalkeeper, brave as a lion. It is rumoured that when he went to bed at night, he wore his goalkeepers jersey under his pyjamas.
Posted By Joe
Monday 5th of October 2015
Has anyone been in Fernhill recently ? The whole area has been transformed with new houses. The big red ash football park that used to be the centre of the community is no longer there. I still remember the night the team from Germany came to play the Fernhill team and a huge crowd came out to watch the game.Everybody in the community supported the local team.
Posted By FFF
Monday 5th of October 2015
Those who do not get behind the team should shut the hell up or they can come round to my house and I will fight them. That is a quote from Ian Hollowy when he was the manager of Queens Park Rangers. But that is the sort of the thing Big Dan Cowan who used to manage the teams in Fernhill would have said.
Posted by David
Monday 17th of November 2014 21:56:27
Posted by Jimmy
Sunday 16th of November 2014 21:55:58
Did anyone see the BBC news programme today about Stan Petrov ?. What an inspiring story. Stan has survived cancer, but had to stop playing professional football. Every Sunday morning he now plays Sunday league football in the Birmingham leaguefo his local amateur team. He loves it. He missed the patter in the dressing room and going for a beer after a game. So he just had to continue playing the game he loves. "I now look forward to the game every Sunday morning". He sounds like most guys in Rutherglen who once upon a time played football. Once football is in your blood, you never lose it. Always play as long as you can.
Posted by Football Fan
Friday 14th of November 2014 21:55:45
United Glasgow F.C was formed in 2011 to provide football for those who might find themselves excluded. The two guiding principles when this project started were anti-discrimination and financial inclusion. By removing the prohibitive costs of football from the players they managed to bring together individuals from communities who would otherwise may never have met through a shared love of football. Have a look at their site href="http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/unitedglasgowfc/239786/Home" - what a great idea. It has players from more than 20 countries. Football is a unifying sport. It is like the old joke that if you walk into a pub in Rutherglen you will never be stuck for conversation if you like football.
Posted by Smokey Joe
Wednesday 12th of November 2014 21:55:03
Years ago some members of a local club complained to the Scottish Football Association about one of their new referees who insisted on taking a shower with them after a game. The referee , shapely Natalie, did not see what all the fuzz was about. "After all", she said, "I do keep my knickers on". She is no longer on the referees list. ( I bet she never refereed in the Rutherglen Churches Sunday morning league).
Posted by Jo Kin
Saturday 08th of November 2014 21:54:36
I was up at Finnieston on Sunday: - there is a football pitch at the top of one the streets across from the Pitt Street Police station. There was a big game going on, with about 20 a side. It looked like everyone in the community was playing, fathers ,sons , uncles, the lot. It was a great sight as they were all kitted out in a mixture of football jerseys: Celtic, Barcelona, Rangers , Manchester United, Real Madrid, and what looked like a Clyde jersey - Great way to spend a Sunday afternoon. But they would never have beat the street team I played for when I was a boy growing up in Rutherglen.
Posted by The Ball Boy
Wednesday 05th of November 2014 21:54:21
Can you name this player ? He has played in more positions than the extended version of the Kama Sutra. He had more women on a Friday night than Georgie Best and would still be the best player in the team on a Saturday. P.s. He lived in Ruggie.
Posted by Ding Dong
Tuesday 04th of November 2014 21:54:03
I remember reading that when Craig Brown was at Motherwell he sent his scouts to watch players. In those days they got a mark out of 10 in ten different disciplines, such as heading tackling, fitness, ball control, etc etc. This is how they used to judge players. It never captured how brillint a player was at just drifting past opponents, or exciting spectators. Have a look at the great local players on the Rutherglens Greatest player list and I wonder how many of them never really got a chance because some scout only marked them 52 out of a hundred.
Posted by A. Nonymous
Wednesday 23rd of April 2014 18:15:42
When Celtic went on a North American tour in 1970 to Canada they played Manchester united and were beaten 2-0. They then played BARI in the 3 team tournament . One of my cousins, Maureen Starrs , who was young and had emigrated to CANADA from RUTHERGLEN with her family got 2 meet all the celtic players in the team at that time, and when celtic returned to Glasgow they sent her signed pictures and a page of signatures of the team manager and coaching and backroom staff , that she cherishes 2 this day . The thing was Maureen was a bit of a tomboy and she played for a boys football team in Canada for a number of years and they never knew she was a girl. There was a big write up about her in the Toronto newspaper in Ccanada . Once again someone fae Rutherglen, a wee Ruglen lass
Posted by A. Nonymous
Tuesday 22nd of April 2014 18:15:45
I'm surprised no one has mentioned HARRY HOOD. - Remember gartlands the bakers whos bakery was at 5 greenbank street thro the tenemant close into the back of the close where the bakery was. I used to help my mothers father robert cardow who worked as a baker at gartlands/and HARRY HOOD used to come there regularly to collect his rolls for his breakfast . Harry played for Clyde and Celtic. He carries the distinction of being the very last celtic player to score a hat trick against their rivals rangers. He's a Ruglonian and I'm surprised he hasn't been mention as one or Rutherglens greatest players. Myself and the local greenbank kids i.e. Eddie Bradley, who had crutches], and the Troup boys who lived up the close at 5 Greenbank street ( Billy Troup ) ,etc used 2 play football in the back of the bakery behind the Burgh school. They were the good old days. Fond memories of growing up in Rutherglen
Posted by A. Nonymous
Monday 21st of April 2014 18:15:13
Forgot to mention I used to deliver papers for Robertsons Shop at the corner of greenbank street and main street when I was about 7or 8 i think . I used to deliver a paper to Bobby Murdochs brother in law a guy called George Barrie who lived in King street - wonder where George is now ?. Anyone know of Georges whereabouts ? Also does anyone remember wasons the bakers on the main street which was next door 2 bells the ironmongers ? Wasons made the best scotch pies wae potato toppings mmmm, had a few of them b4 i played a game o fitba. Great days in ruglen - great memories.
Posted by A. Nonymous
Sunday 20th of April 2014 18:14:33
Isn't it funny the people u meet in your life ? On thursday 17th april 2014 during my working day as an engineer working and living in northamptonshire , I bumped into a chap called MICK KURILA . I got chatting 2 him and apparently his dad JOHN KURILA played for celtic during the 1958-1961 season making 5 appearances for the 1st team playing alongside auld/chalmers/hughes and billy mc neil[lisbon lions. John was kept out of the side by the likes of the aforementioned players. I'd never heard of KURILA before . JOHN now lives in northampton and is now73 - his sons r both amateur footballers. Mick PLAYED FOR RUSHDEN AND DIAMONDS - DONT KNOW ANYTHING BOUT ANDY. -JOHN KURILA was born in Glasgow in 1941 I just thought I would share this with all the Ruglen lads. - Isn't it funny the people u meet in ur life ?
Posted by Dave Neil
Monday 07th of April 2014 08:00:00
Whit memories I have. I remember I had dreams of playin fur barcelona just like stevie archibald but it all ended on Black Friday october 13th 1971. I wiz standin ootside marios cafe in fernhill. There wiz a rumour that a wee guy fae ballantay castlemilk wiz a bit sharp. Noo a thought they were talkin aboot fitba that he wiz a wee bit sharp on the field, but a soon found oot they wirnae talkin aboot fitba. A wiz hit across ma left cheek wae a razor that left me wae a18 inch scar fur life. Does anyone remember that? Put an end tae ma fitba dreams, but a could still pull the birds - they found ma scar fascinating. Hope this story gees u a few laffs. fae Dave Neil
Posted by Dave Neil
Monday 07th of April 2014 08:00:00
Dave Neil here : I was in the 1968 Burgh cup final for st marks primary. We played st columbkilles in the final if my memory serves me well. We were beaten in the final by st columbkilles. If anyone can name the 11 players for st marks in that game and the score we were beaten by then i will send 10 pounds to you if u leave your details .Im now at the ripe old age of 57 and still wearing well living in england
Posted by Dave Neil
Monday 07th of April 2014 08:00:00
A few notes on Martin McGrath who came from the Spittal. After every game we played at spittal/paul/martin and myself dave would go back to martins house and his mum or his sister Collette McGrath would make the 3of us sit around the kitchen sink and they would wash our feet/legs after a muddy game . Fond memories. P.S. Does anyone remember my great grandfather called doo-dah Cardow ? He lived next door to the Stirrup Cup pub on rutherglen main street and every saturday he would talk to all the rutherglen football fans from his house window back in the early 1900s. His name again was doo-dah cardow. Any info please leave on this site. Awe ra best fae Davie Neil
Posted by Dave Neil
Monday 07th of April 2014 08:00:00
Message for Robert McCallum : / Hi robert , Dave Neil here - remember me ? I've just dug out a st marks foto of 1963 u are in the front row with me in the front right hand end with miss semple/. Do u remember those days ? Im in england now your in Australia: sorry to hear bout ur loss: could u confirm if the gallery foto of cathkin uniteds under 16s missing player is martin mc grath/ur in the picture also 1972 in rutherglens greatest player foto gallery.
Posted by Dave Neil
Monday 07th of April 2014 08:00:00
Just been looking in the picture gallery - I think the player who is question marked between jim cairney and stuart keenan in the cathkin uniteds under 16s 1972 . Picture is martin mc grath who played alongside me, dave neil, and paul arthur at st marks primary school back in the 1960s. Paul/Martin and myself were in the school play and all the parents came to st marks and watched us do the "rolo sensation" in the school hall. Remember the Cadburys rolo advert on tv ? - well that was us paul/martin and dave.
Posted by Dave Neil
Monday 07th of April 2014 08:00:00
When bobby harvey/desi divers and me, dave neil, used to kick a football around the garages in kirkmuir drive when we were boys, I could never get the ball away from bobbys feet - it was frustrating for me. I knew then that bobby would go onto better things, which he did and ended up playing for clyde. Well done bobby - hope ur keeping well. Just to mention i live in england these days and i bumped into kevin keegan bout 6months ago/got his autograph nice eh !
Posted by Smokey Joe
Sunday 06th of April 2014 08:00:00
Football is NOT only about the highly paid players most of us watch on our TV screens every week. It is about everyone who kicks a ball, no matter if it is in the World Cup finals or the back streets of Rutherglen. Football allows you to express yourself and gives your friends and memories for life. I have just came across and been surfing through this site - well done to everyone who has contributed and shared a story or two.
Posted by David
Sunday 23rd of March 2014 18:25:16
Bobby - remember you / me and Desi Divers used to kick a football at the garages in Kirkmuir Drive when we were boys ? - I have my one and only Burgh Cup runners up medal is with my uncle George in Kearney, USA - I went onto Trinity and played in the school yard, where Mr.McCready the art teacher saw me and later wanted me 2play for Trinity High, but I never did
Posted by David
Sunday 23rd of March 2014 18:25:09
A guy named Paul Arthur has not been mentioned. Paul played for St.Marks primary. He eventually went onto Drumchapel Amateurs and played alongside John Wark ( Ipswich, Liverpool) and Scotland. Paul was a good player - Does anyone remember St.Marks player Tommy Walker - what a shot he had. When Tommy hit the ball it was like a rocket. And also Ian McGuigan and wee Tam McGuire and obviously Tam Bennett, and remembering Tams sister anne bennet - Also Martin McGrath . Paul and myself played along with Martin at St.Marks. What memories. Why can't we have players like us these days in football? It is all foreigners. Lets keep the Scottish lads. Lets breed world class players from Ruglen.
Posted by Limeside Cowboy
Thursday 20th of March 2014 18:24:34
This was taken from a book I recently read: "The last time I met Bobby Murdoch was at a dance in the Celtic supporters club on London Road. He was in his element as he smiled, shared anecdotes, and had his photo taken with many of the supporters. He moved from table to table and took time to speak to anyone who wanted a word. This great footballer did not receive the financial rewards his skills deserved during his playing days. Bobby was a great player on the field and a modest gentleman off it. He was the most complete all round footballer I saw. Those of you who didn't see him play can catch a glimpse of his grace and power on grainy old video footage or on youtube.com"
Posted by The left Winger
Sunday 23rd of February 2014 18:53:27
“ Games without wingers are not games of football “ - Maybe I am old fashioned but I agree with this quote. Every team should have a good winger who can beat a man and get to the bye line. Rutherglen had some brillaint wingers : the two that spring to my mind are Geordie Collins from Fernhill and the Mclaren twin from Spittal
Posted by anonymous
Friday 14th of February 2014 20:15:22
i remember a guy called jim fairfield they use to call him midfield maestro was hard player played threw schools with him an cambuslang rangers boys club brilliant player who never gave up
Posted by anonymous
Friday 14th of February 2014 20:15:00
i remember a guy i played with jim fairfield from fernhill what a player never gave up played threw schools with him hard player an gentleman
Posted by the Chancer
Monday 10th of February 2014 20:09:25
Football is full of stories: who was the the local player who scalded his bollocks in the showers at Overtoun Park ( they were a Health and Safety deathtrap ) and had to miss the next game: or the player who was an enthusiastic sub every game ( he also never missed a training night ), and got his big chance when someone got injured and he came on – unfortunately he got subbed himself within 10 mins because he was no good – he still smiled as he came off : or the local star who cracked his head off a toilet when he was trying to be sick after a drinking session in the Main Street: Sorry I am no good at remembering names
Posted by fernhill
Thursday 06th of February 2014 23:31:00
cant see Des Divers getting a mention was a good player-fernhill-trinity-croftfoot-
Posted by Football Crazy
Saturday 01st of February 2014 21:16:32
Every town has a story to tell about itself, many by their football teams and players. Rutherglen has some story to tell for anyone who wants to LISTEN. In the words of Frank Sinatra “ Start Spreading The News “ ( about Rutherglen ) and the wonderful footballers.
Posted by The Wanderer
Saturday 01st of February 2014 21:09:26
Like eating, drinking, sleeping, sex, football is a basic need for men from Rutherglen. Football is all about enjoyment and goals. When I was growing up in the 1960’s the average number of goals per game was 5 or 6. I do not remember playing in a 0-0 draw. Football was competitive but friendlier in those days. At the end of a game there was always a hand shake , although we never exchanged jerseys. I used to play 3 games for 3 different teams at the weekend. There was nothing worth watching on the black and white TV, except Doctor Who. We even played streets games on a Saturday night. You had to have your daily football game in the street with your pals, or something was missing from life. Yoo only ever went to bed when you were knackered.
Posted by Glance
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:57:26
The best dressed goalkeeper from Rutherglen was Martin Leggat. Bunnet, big thick jumper, gloves, knee pads, clean boots. The wee man was some keeper – brave as a lion. His only downfall was smoking during a game, while chatting up birds who stood behind his goal net
Posted by Bacardi John
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:53:03
When I was growing up I remember my old man talking about the best players in the world. One was an Austrian ( who used to be a great internation team ) named Matthias Sindelar, he was nicknamed the “ Paper Man “ ( because he was so skinny I think.) . Manchester United reportedly tried to buy him for 40,000 pounds in the early 1930’s. He also inspired the Austrians to beat Scotland 5-0. In 1939, just before the war, he was found dead in his bed with his Jewish girlfriend, and former prostitue named Camilla Castagnolla. The official verdict was that they died of carbon oxide posioning. A sad end to great footballer who had learned his skills on the streets of Vienna. The other “ greatest player in the world “ my old man talked about was Alfredo DiStefano, who played for Real Madrid. Alfredo said “ My education was to learn to kick a ball with my right foot and left foot. I was an appentice to Street Football. Street Football was my University. “ - All the great players learned on the street and patches of their local ground. I don’t think Rutherglen has ever produced the Greatest player in the World, but when you look at some of the names on this list ( and some who are not mentioned ) it was a great place for football.
Posted by Fat Boab
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:51:39
In the old days, the Captain of the team was always the best player. He had no choice,- he was the captain. Probably the best captain I played under was Hugh Rooney, from Fernhill. He lead by example and had a fierce will to win. Scared of nothing in his younger days. I think Hugh went to play with Morton in the 1970’s.
Posted by Mr.J.Hyde
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:24:27
A professional footballer is an amateur who did not quit just because someone criticised him. Most of the guys on this list should have played at senior level. Maybe some of them just did not have the luck. ( or were unfortunate with injury ).
Posted by K.Sara
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:23:34
Tam Bennet was so good he could play in rugby boots and still be the best player on the park. Tam was a dribbler and could knock an opposing full back off balance by a swivel of the hips. Modern football does not have many dribblers nowadays: they pass the ball to death. All the stats are about how many yards someone has covered on how much possession a team has: it is never about he number of times a forward dribbled past a defender. Old fashioned dribblers made the game magic, now it is all tactics. I just watch the highlight of the goals on telly now and do not bother with the bit in between and the marathon runners running about off the ball. What is the point of playing football if you do not want a ball at your feet ?
Posted by Tinker Bell
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:21:22
When I was a young center half in the 1960’s it was my job to attack the ball in the air. If you cut your head, you just played on. Never went to hospital for stiches, just let it scab. You were never a center half unless you had scars across your napper. There was no such thing as a ball playing center half in my days who strolled around marking nae body. Our job was to frighten center forwards.
Posted by R.Snell
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:19:02
When I was young I thought the world ended at the Rutherglen boundary line. I did not know what was out in the big world. It was getting involved with a local football team, and travelling to different places, that I learned that Ruggie is NOT the centre of the universe. Great days travelling to away games and seeing different places and playing against really good players, everywhere. Every town in Scotland has a greatest player, apart from East Kilbride
Posted by Pirlo
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:17:57
Glasgow used to be the football capital of the world. See www.theglasgowstory.com and go to the sports section for further details. In Glasgow, on one evening in 1972, 155,000 attended two games: Celtic v Inter Milan in the European Champions Cup semi-final ,and Rangers v Bayern Munich in the European Cup Winners Cup semi-final. If there was a big game at Hampden, you could stand on Rutherglen Main Street and hear the roar and groans of the crowd. ( if you could not afford a ticket for the gemme)
Posted by Pete Pawn
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:16:41
In the 1950’s you could to some local football parks on a Saturday afternoon and there would always be guys with their football boots wrapped in brown paper looking for a game. Usually they got a game.
Posted by R.Snell
Saturday 01st of February 2014 20:15:32
When I see what footballers earn today in bonuses today to win a football game it is obscene. When I was playing for the local junior/juvenile teams in the 1950’s , our bonus at the end of the game was a freshly baked Dumpling. I also remember a game when there was twelve wee glasses of whisky waiting in the dressing room after a game that we had just won. I was only fifteen years old at the time and was not allowed to take on.
Posted by Robert
Monday 27th of January 2014 12:25:56
Robert/Bobby, this is not directly to do with the site itself. My father (also Robert) had a bit of a stroke a few weeks ago, he is now 92 but still in reasonably good health for his age. I'm coming back from Australia on Feb 1st to see him and was wondering if any of the guys who played with St Marks, Cathkin Utd, Hamilton U18's who remember him ( I think he came to every game) would be interested in a bit of a get together to talk over some of the old games etc, he constantly reminds me of all the players like yourself, Tommy McGuire, Wullie McFarlane, Liam Markie, Gordon Brown etc etc, just a thought if you could get back to me on my email address...cheers Robert McCallum
Posted by Ray
Monday 27th of January 2014 12:25:07
Remember Niel we played together i was captain St marks boys guild Wullie mac played a few games with us and my brother Frank we had agreat team then won loads of cups . i to signed for the tic but got bad knee injury went down to amateur with Netherlee church , Happy days
Posted by Ray
Monday 27th of January 2014 12:23:56
Played with gus ( eadie ) at st columbkilles in the 60's good player : he will rem us twinnies !
Posted by Ray
Monday 27th of January 2014 12:23:11
have pic of st marks boys guild team 1967
Posted by anonymous
Monday 27th of January 2014 12:22:17
Just came across this site sad to notice me and my bros Frank arnt mentioned ? St marks burgh cup winners 1964 st marks boys guild league and cup winning team st collumbkilles senior team, scouted by Harry Haddock s form with Celtic 1967 played for the Avoca castlemilk . My late father ran the rutherglen waveley George Mc Laren
Posted by anonymous
Monday 27th of January 2014 12:20:48
Comment: Played with Wullie ( Divers ) many a time down the spittal fields on a sunday 20 aside lol and a big support he was a very fine player
Posted by Islaysaint
Thursday 23rd of January 2014 22:38:15
The McLaren brothers I.e. George, Francis and Raymond must figure in the pool of players
Posted by anonymous
Wednesday 06th of November 2013 20:42:01
When I was growing up you never seen any players with tattoos, or with mohican style hair cuts. You only ever stood out if you were a good player. You were a good player if the opposition supporters applauded you.
Posted by Pele Wally
Wednesday 06th of November 2013 20:41:09
Every player on this list has suffered a football injury at some stage in their career. What would YOU be prepared to do if you had a hamstring injury, and you had the biggest game/Cup Final in your career coming soon. Here is how a boy from Rutherglen did it : In 1986 Barcelona got through to the European Cup final. They were due to play Steau Bucharest. Steve Archibald damaged his hamstring in the quarter final against Juventus, ( in which he scored the winning goal ), and was a major doubt for the final. He spoke to Bryan Robson who recommeneded a Dutch physiotherapist in Amsterdam. Steve flew to Holland. This is what he said, “ Bryan had recommended this guy , but warned me not to go if I could not suffer pain. I am not talking about ordinary pain , I am talking about real pain. But he will sort you out said Bryan. What the physio does is to break down fibres to make them bleed and cause a new healing. You are talking about eight hours of massage – knuckle massage, bone massage, deep massage, - but also someone standing on you until he is relieved by his partner, an expert kick boxer. I’ve never had to suffer so much in my life, but I was sprinting within four days. “ Steve played in the Cup Final
Posted by Burst Baw
Thursday 31st of October 2013 21:27:21
Terry Venables became manager of Barcelona in 1984. He signed Steve Archibald (who learned his skills on the streets and pitches of Rutherglen ) as a replacement for Diego Maradona. The Barca fans wanted Hugo Sanchez, the great Mexican forward, to replace Maradona, but Venables wanted Steve. Venables said, “ Archibald is a top player, a fine goal scorer, intelligent, quick, good with his head, and nearly always on target “. What a story from Shawfield to the Camp Nou
Posted by The Trainer
Thursday 31st of October 2013 21:26:17
Craigie Speirs – now there is a name from the past. What a player. You could not catch Craigie with a lasso
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 27th of October 2013 16:05:26
Cannae believe big Ian " Muf" Murphy hasn't been mentioned , played with Springhall Thistle and Trinity high ,
Posted by The Hoff
Sunday 20th of October 2013 11:18:59
Did anyone see the Chewing Gum trick that Mesut Ozil from Arsenal did recently in his warm up before a game with Swansea ? ( You can watch it on YOUTUBE ). He was chewing the gum, spat it out, played keepy uppy with it, then flicked it back into his mouth. Most guys on this list of Rutherglens Greatest players could do that easy peasy.
Posted by Chester Drawers
Sunday 20th of October 2013 11:10:20
I always thought a football dressing room was a great place to be before a game, especially a Scottish Cup tie. The excitement and tension is hard to beat. Every player is different. Some suffer from nerves, others boot the ball against a wall to warm up, others get the winter green massage, others pump themselves up with shouting and swearing, others do not have care in the world. I remember reading about Slim Jim Baxter ,who 20 mins before a big game, was sitting there reading the newspaper ! The best dressing rooms in the Rutherglen area were the Overtoun Park. On a Saturday afternoon teams from all over Scotland came to to play the best teams from Rutherglen. There was also many fights in the dressing room, but that is another story
Posted by anonymous
Thursday 17th of October 2013 19:45:35
just went on your site and cant believe jimmy smith is not on here jimmy was one of the best players i have ever seen and played against he will be in his mid sixties now but i am sure many people will remember him, he lived in the spittal and played with with some good rutherglen players namely charlie stirling danny reaburn willie ohara john gilchrist and many more. i for one will vote for him in rutherglens greatest player
Posted by GAB
Tuesday 15th of October 2013 20:22:54
Was reading in the Evening Times about a match in Ayrshire at the weekend that one of the teams were reduced to six men and the match was obviously abandoned.They were wondering if the other team would be awarded the game as they were winning 3-2 at the time and this had not happened before.All I can say is I remember playing for Cathkin United against Kingsley Thistle in a cup tie at Fernhill pitches back in the 70s and we were winning 2-1 at the time and down to 8 men the ref let one of the opposition score from an off side position to level the match and I was sent off for dissent a few minutes later Duille was sent off and the match was abandoned.The long and the short of it was the tie was awarded to Kingsley Thistle by the league committee also remember the referee had to get a police escort out of Fernhill that day.
Posted by Robin Banks
Wednesday 09th of October 2013 19:42:33
Playing football in the winter snow with an orange bladder football is one of my memories of growing up in Rutherglen. Stil remember it 50 years later. Happy days
Posted by Dick Peashooter
Wednesday 09th of October 2013 19:40:56
There is terrific DVD called “ Once in a Lifetime “. It is the story of the famous New York Cosmos team in the 1970’s. They used to play on a a grass football pitch ( that looked like the old Spittal pitches ) which were in the Bronx, or one of the tougher areas of NY city. When the great Brazilian , Pele, played his first game for the Cosmos it was on this pitch. Because it was bare in patches, the groundsman had sprayed it Green, to hide all the bare areas. When Pele came off at the end of the game, and took off socks, he was terrified when he seen his feet had turned Green. He thought he had caught some disease. Now, any Rutherglen footballer of a certain age who played on the black ash parks in the Overtoun Park, had the same experience. Your feet were BLACK with ash after a game, and no way would it wash off in the showers.
Posted by Harry Barrie
Wednesday 09th of October 2013 19:39:19
“ Training properly is the key to a professional career. To me, every training session is like a World Cup final. “ – This is a quote from Paulo Di Canio. I wish someone had told me that when I was growing up and dreaming of being a footballer. I thought you just turned up and played a game
Posted by BT
Wednesday 09th of October 2013 19:38:44
Did you ever see that Irvine Welsh film “ The Acid House “. There is a great scene about local amateur football in Edinburgh and a great line by the captain of the team to one of his mates. “ It is no a goal until the ball hits the net “. There you go, if have never scored into a net during a game, then it was not a real goal. When did you score your first goal in a net ?
Posted by Midfield General
Friday 23rd of August 2013 19:56:16
I like the description on the Home page of this site : “ . We all know someone who should have been a great player, but got lost along the way to Wine, Women, Song, or the Bookies. “ – How true is that. But did you know this ? Most people interested in football know that the game started in the public schools in England in the mid 1800’s. There was a headmaster named Thomas Arnold in a school in Rugby. He thought that football could shape a boys character. It would also distract a boy’s mind from the vices of Victorian times: drinking, gambling, and masturbation. He thought none of these habits were conducive too a good character. I know lots of good players from Rutherglen who liked a smoke and a beer (some times at half time ) , and it never did them any harm. Football is the greatest game in the world, and nothing beats the Joy of Scoring a Goal. – Does anyone disagree ?
Posted by midfield General
Friday 23rd of August 2013 19:55:46
“ He was a Boy’s Own Hero, a great presence on the football fields of Rutherglen, magnificent team player, a force of nature when it came to the important games. “- NAME THAT PLAYER
Posted by anonymous
Friday 09th of August 2013 17:30:57
Comment: Gerry Heaney played on the our Lady,s high team with JohnCushley,Bobby Murdoch and Benny Rooney in 1957-58. Later with John Cushley on the Our Lady's team that won the Scottish Schools u-18 Shield in 1960 and in 1961 played for Scotland Schools team vs England with Jim Craig,Andy Roxburgh and Ian Young
Posted by Vodka Vic
Thursday 01st of August 2013 21:13:49
I do not have many childhood memories, other than playing football. Used to play in the back garden with my brother and dribble rings around him for hours. Not a bad lad, he grew to be a nice guy
Posted by Josh
Thursday 01st of August 2013 21:07:01
James Evans : Really good keeper suffered really bad injuries,played for Scotland from schoolboy up to under20s.ifnot for injuries would have gone to the very top.
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 30th of July 2013 20:17:35
James Evans is a fantastic coach and is now sharing his invaluable football experiences in a voluntary capacity for the benefit of many young boys under the Queens Park FC youth development squad - thank you James!!
Posted by Dirty Harry
Sunday 14th of July 2013 20:47:10
Rutherglen defenders were tough: most teams had a player who would always go and win the 50/50 tackles: and every team had at least one player who would go for the 80/20 tackle.
Posted by fat Boab
Sunday 14th of July 2013 20:46:35
In the 1970’s we were playing a game up the Cathkin Braes. It was starting to get dark when a big bright light appeared in the sky above the Braes. I swear it was a UFO. I thought the Martians were about to land and steal our ball. It hoverred for a few minutes looking down at us, then it streaked at about 1,000 miles per hour over the city of Glasgow and disappeared.. That spoiled the game. We decided to abandon the game and run home before it got any darker . ( other than the time one of the boys found a scud book in the bushes, this is the only game I can remember that ever got abandoned ).
Posted by Ivan Hoe
Sunday 14th of July 2013 20:46:01
I like the photo gallery on this site. Some wonderful pictures. But the best ever source of football photos from around the world is a book called “ Magnum football.” There are approx 180 unique photos: from the war torn streets of Sarajevo to the World Cup finals: from every continent: from every city: from the plains of Africa : from the villages of India: the nude football played in Brazil: football under the gun in civil wars with the players not worrying about the soldiers: Cambodian monks watching a game: fathers and sons watching their favourite local team: playing football as the Berlin Wall comes tumbling down: three beautiful Jamaican women singing and dancing in the crowd at the World cup finals unaware that a protruding nipple was about to become famous around the world:but the best photo in my opinion is from Glasgow – is the back garden football with boys playing a game while their mothers washing is blowing in the wind. Everybody on the Rutherglens Greatest player list has most likely been a back garden footballer at some time in their life. I still remember my mother and the women neighbours shouting out the window to keep our ball away from the hand washed clothes. You were in BIG trouble if you dirtied their washing.
Posted by the Blether
Sunday 07th of July 2013 09:52:33
I think it was way back in the 1970’s that Pele game up with the phrase “ the Beautiful Game “ to describe football. What is good about it ? I don’t understand how groups of men can have a 90 minute fight over kicking a pig’s bladdder all over a field . How can they get so excited and mad looking at the side of the park and spit out their chewing gum if things do not go well for them ? And supporters bubbling like weans if their team gets beat. Its only a game boys. Now we are in July and thankfully football has stopped for a while and the Wimbledon tennis is the big thing. When I was growing up in Rutherglen everyone went over to the Overtoun Park courts to play tennis: OK you only 4 strings in your racquet ,but you could still hit the ball. ( all the newsagents sold new tennis racquets if you had the pocket money ). We also played tennis on the street ,with a piece of wood on the road being the net line. Happy days in summer way back then. Seven weeks of no school, and never ever bored.
Posted by Bud Wiser
Sunday 07th of July 2013 09:52:06
I was our for a walk in the Overtoun Park a few nights ago. There was a football team going for a run around the park. It looked like a bit of pre-season training. The worst time of the season for a footballer – it is hard had work. They had just started and ran about 10 yards when a voice from the back of the pack shouted at the trainer “ When are we going to start the ball work ? “ - Yes – nothing changes. Players want to kick a ball and not go marathon running. Still I suppose you need to be fit to be any good
Posted by Pie Eater
Sunday 23rd of June 2013 17:12:53
Today I went to the Kelvingrove Gallery. Over the summer it is running an exhibition called More than a Game. “ How Scotland Shaped World Football”. It is a fascinating collection of film, memorabilia , and stories about how football is an intrinsic part of Scottish life. My favourite was the short film about Street Football. It showed a group of boys playung on the street, 15 a side, with jumpers as goal posts. The wee goalie was diving about the road and diving head first at on rushing players feet. ! Neighbours were out on the street watching the game. Brillian stuff. ! There was also a vintage poster Glasgow from 1914 that was on walls around the city : It said STOP LISTEN LOOK – it was an attempt to warn budding young footballers about the dangers of playing on the streets, and to watch out for tramcars !
Posted by Auld Codger
Sunday 23rd of June 2013 08:51:28
Most readers of this site may not know about Jimmy “ Napoleon “ McMenemy. He is a real football legend from Rutherglen. Jimmy played for the Glencairn and went to Celtic in 1902. He won 7 Scottish Cup winners medals and 11 League winner medals. He also won 11 Scottish caps and was never on the losing side. He was an inside forward – a midfied general . He did not play Senior football until he was 22 years old, which is quite old. He has been forced to give up football for two years when he worked in the glass factory as it played havoc with his feet. In those days you had to work if yo uwanted to eat. During the First World War he also worked in the munitions factory. Here are a couple of quotes about Jimmy: “ The football pitch to him was like a chess board. He was continually scheming and plotting and seldom, if ever, troubles himself with the physical side of the game – he had no need. “. – One of his team mates when he played for Scotland was Adam Scott Duncan ( he played for Rangers, but also played two wartime ganes for Celtic in 1918 ), said about Jimmy after they beat England: “ I don’t think I have ever played a better game. Anyone could play with McMenemy. He is one of the few to whom the term Genius has been applied without hysterics “. – Jimyy McMenemy should be in Rutherglens Greatest team
Posted by Confused.com
Sunday 16th of June 2013 07:26:48
I was watching Brazil v Japan on TV yesterday. The Japanese goalkeeper was wearing a PINK jersey, pink shorts, pink socks, and Canary YELLOW boots. What is that all about ? Can you imagine a goalkeeper in our day ( about 40 years ago ) wearing Pink – he would have been verbally slaughtered in the dressing room by his mates. Also during this game, the Number 06 of Brazil got hit in the Crown Jewels by the ball. He went down like a sack of spuds, and looked like he was dying. Arm in the air and rolling about desperately calling for help. About 10 medical staff with a stretcher came running on the park to attend to our Hero. What is that all about ? In my days ( about 40 years ago ) you would just have run this off after pouring some cold water on the injured part. Obviously the Brazilian Number 06 has never been hit in the chuckies with a rock hard Mold Master ball on a cold Scottish winter morning
Posted by Tommy Beard
Saturday 15th of June 2013 09:17:22
I see that the Chosen One is back as manager of Chelsea. I don’t rate him as a manager. He has had zillions of punds to spend on the best players, but his teams are not good to watch ( in my opinion ). I have always thought if a manager makes a bad substitution ( like takes off a centre forward and puts on a left back ) the game should be stopped, the manager handed a microphone, and given 30 seconds to explain to the fans why. Can you imagine big Dan Cowan doing that ?
Posted by bertie bolt
Friday 14th of June 2013 12:49:33
Can any 1 remember the night wen big jim jimmy wylie raced dan cowans pet rabbit over the full length of the big park at fernhill
Posted by KaKa
Saturday 01st of June 2013 16:11:33
After BIG games nowadays, a few players are selected at random to take a drugs urine test. Thank God that never happened in my day playing in the local leagues. I am willing to bet most samples would have been pure Lager and nicotine. These were the only performance enhancing substances in my days.
Posted by the Smiler
Saturday 01st of June 2013 16:04:04
That is a stong looking Rutherglens Greatest team. As someone once said about every great team : “ We have butchers in defence, assassins in midfield, and artists in the forwards “.
Posted by wg
Wednesday 29th of May 2013 12:31:05
Is it true that ruggie football ledgend jim jimmy wylie has bought a thatched cottage in springhall..
Posted by Midfield General
Tuesday 28th of May 2013 19:43:11
I watched the European Cup Final a few nights ago between Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund. What a great game to watch. The only thing that spoiled it was when one or two of the Bayern players started to dive about when hardly touched. You always get some players who are all mouth and no action on the pitch. They mouth off or square up to every opponent, but it is all just handbags. In my opinion, the referee should stop the game and say, “ OK lads, have a square go for 30 seconds “. You would not see any more antics. The best fight I have ever seen on a pitch was when a team from Larkhall ( I think they were called Fairholm ) came to play at Fernhill. It was a pitch battle. Rutherglen players can take many things from punches, kicks, bad refereeing and verbal abuse from the side of the park. But the one thing no player can take is an opponent Spitting at you. Is there anything worse that can happen to a player during a football game ?
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 26th of May 2013 10:11:29
Does any 1 remember the player from fernhill who w??ore a wig....
Posted by YaYa
Saturday 25th of May 2013 08:47:02
I remember back in the 1980’s a wee local girl got knocked down by a car and was paralysed. The local community came togethet to help her family and there was a football Fund raising Day at Southcroft. Bobby Murdoch had a team entered, and I think Big George Crozier sponsored the day. The local MP, Tommy McAvoy, refereed the games using a loud speaker
Posted by Yahoo Com
Saturday 25th of May 2013 08:46:06
Dougie Donnelly, the TV Sports presenter came from Rutherglen. He used to be a ball boy at Shawfield
Posted by Jammy Dodger
Saturday 25th of May 2013 08:45:21
Dave Lloyd from Fernhill played in the last ever game at Shawfield for Clyde. He scored their last ever goal in a 4-2 win over Alloa. ( Ian Ferguson who went on to play for Rangers, also played for Clyde in that game). Lloyd can dine out on that piece of local history. He had signed for the Clyde from Clydebank for 10,000 pounds. I think that is the most money Craig Brown, the Clyde manager, ever spent on a player
Posted by Pie Eater
Saturday 25th of May 2013 08:44:09
A couple of questions: does anyone remember - (a). The School Sports day at the Templeton Fields every summer – was there a football tournament there also ? (b) Does anyone remember the McGraw Cup in Rutherglen in the 1980’s?
Posted by Wolfgang
Saturday 25th of May 2013 08:22:28
I was recently reading a wee story about Rutherglen’s Greatest player Bobby Murdoch. It was written by an Argentian named Humberto Maschio. He was a midfield player and international player. He played for Racing Club in Buenos Aires, who played Celtic 3 times in the World Club championship finals in the late 1960’s. Argentinians had a reputation for violent play. If you have never seeen these games, have a look on YOUTUBE. They were brutal. Anways, here is what Humberto said : “ Murdoch was a very intelligent player, strong and energetic, and moved up and down the field for the whole game. I considered it an honour and compliment to me that he had been told to mark me. Avery clean player: a gentleman. We played football like a game of chess: I would get the ball and look up and he was always there directly between me and the goal, or he would always be there to steer me away to the side, or in a position to intercept a pass. A wonderful footballer. “
Posted by Jeanieb
Sunday 19th of May 2013 13:40:28
This is a reply to 'Panther' - Aye Right!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Jack the Lad
Friday 10th of May 2013 20:43:23
Great photot posted on this website Gallery of the Vogue Bar who recently won the Fosters Scottish cup beating Harvesters 4-2 at Livingstone Almondvale stadium.
Posted by GAB
Thursday 09th of May 2013 18:54:15
Great to see in this weeks Reformer that the Vogue Bar won the Fosters Scottish cup beating Harvesters 4-2 at Livingstone Almondvale stadium.Considering that 600 teams entered the competition it was a fantastic achievement congratulations to everybody involved.
Posted by pelly Wally
Saturday 13th of April 2013 09:53:57
If you go into the Rutherglen library in the next few weeks you will see a silent black and white film on the Big screen. It is a tape from the National Archive of Scotland. One of the games on it is when a Rutheglen team named the Regent Star won the Scottish Juvenile Cup. ( in the 1920’s I think ) The footage is amazing. It also shows a game at Southcroft. It was packed with fans all wearing old cloth caps (even the Old wooden stand is in the film ) . In the background you will see the towering smoking chimney of the White’s Chemical factory that used to dominate the South side. You can buy a copy of the tape from the National library at www.nls.uk/
Posted by Jake
Saturday 13th of April 2013 09:51:24
I think Steve Archibald used to work in the Volksway Garage at the top of Dryburgh Avenue near Stonelaw Rd. ( across the road from the old Maternity Hospital ). In the 1970’s he used to park his black Capri outside. All the trendies in the 70’s had a Capri – you couldn’t drive along the Main Street wihout hearing the blaring sound of 8 track tapes coming out the windows of a black Capri. Steve was a good footballer, but he was a better mechanic. (somebody was telling me that they seen recently him in the Mitchell Arcade Shopping centre).
Posted by Panther
Saturday 13th of April 2013 09:49:43
Hello, My name is Emmanuel Panther Asoluka and I am a great footballer. I am from Nigeria and love to play soccer. I am a good defender with a great tackle. My nickname is “Rock of Gibraltar.”. I came across your website and I would like to move to Rutherglen to further my football career. I need an agent that will manage my football career. If you send 100 pounds to my email adress I would like to talk to you. God Bless
Posted by Blootered
Saturday 13th of April 2013 09:48:18
Tam B. He once dribbled across Europe from Benidorm to Magaluf. What a player. He should have played at professional level. He used to dog school and go over the park and practice his free kicks. I think he thought he was part Brazilian ( I knew his Dad and he came from Rutherglen and not Rio ). Tam graced many a football public park around Rutherglen, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, and beyond in the 70’s 80’s and 90.s. Still see Tam shuffling down the Main Street at the week ends. Great football guy.
Posted by Burst Baw
Saturday 13th of April 2013 09:46:46
The quickest substitution in local football has to be 15 minutes :when wee Fishy Lamont got the hook. Can anyone beat that ?
Posted by Right Winger
Saturday 13th of April 2013 09:45:51
Who was the guy who was the manager of a local football team who never knew what his strongest/best team was ? If he had 15 or 16 players turn up on a Saturday, he used to write out 2 or 3 team selections than go “ eeny meeny manny mo “ and pick his team.
Posted by Grey Beard
Saturday 06th of April 2013 10:49:46
I was out for a walk through the Overtoun Park a few nights ago. It was a lovely fresh sunny night. It was good to see a five a side football game being played on the grass near the Victoria Fountain. I also noticed that the bowling greens are looking good for the start of the new bowling season. I had a flashback to when I was much younger and the boys jumping the fence and playing a game on the bowling green. The parkie and gardeners used to go mental. I also remember the putting green next to the football Pavilion. Overtoun was always a good place to be on a Saturday afternoon with loads of football games and teams arriving from all over the country. It was hard to beat a Rutherglen team on their own pitch
Posted by the Ragman
Saturday 06th of April 2013 10:41:39
Some nice comments on this site about Steven Campbell. For those who do not know Steven went on to be a world famous artist with exhibitions from London to New York. He came from Fernhill and was a good goalkeeper in his younger days. Unfortunately he died when he was only in his 50’s. His brother Graeme and dad George were also well known in the Rutherglen football community. His Mum still lives in Rutherglen. When Steven was a teenager he was on a bus from Fernhill into Glasgow. He was looking out the window at Bridgeton Cross and he had a flash of inspiration and decided that he wanted to be an artist. He chucked his job, went to art school in Glasgow ,and the rest is history. His whole life changed in a split second. I always admired him for having the courage to follow his dream. For all his great paintings, I still remember him best for diving about about as a goalkeeper up the Overtoun park.
Posted by the Gambler
Saturday 06th of April 2013 10:32:21
Here is a story about Steve Archibald when signing for Barcelona. The Football agent Denis Roache jumped into Stevie’s car at the airport as Steve was going to meet the Barcelona President to agree terms. ( Apparently Mr.Roache did all the transfer deals to Barca on behalf of the President). Steve had never met him before, and told the Presidente that Roache was not getting a 10% cut of the transfer fee. Steve told Roache to get out the car and to go away in two short Glaswegian words. He did not need anyone to negotiate on his behalf. Steve used to have a garage in Croftfoot and I think it was here that he learned his negotiating skills. It was very difficult to get a small discount for a MOT in his garage back in the 1970’s
Posted by RuglonianGal
Saturday 06th of April 2013 10:25:12
Phil 'doveman' Bloomer, awesome player in his day. Had a younger brother, Ian, known as the 'penknife', played for Jersey International, also a quality player.
Posted by Rio Clyde
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:27:15
When Clyde won the Scottish Cup in 1955 by beating Celtic 1-0, they had a motor coach celebration parade through Rutherglen and Bridgeton. The team was Hawkins, Murphy, Haddock, Granville, Anderson, Laing, Divers, Robertson, Hill, Brown and Ring. Does any readers of this site remember that game ?
Posted by the Football anorak
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:22:34
Does anyone have any information about a player from Rutherglen called Jimmy Docherty? He played in the 1920’s. I understand he played for Clyde, Rutherglen Vics, Regent Star, Glencairn, Cambuslang Rangers, Glasgow Rangers, and Ayr United. Thanks.
Posted by offside
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:17:30
Andy Walker was a local boy from Burnside. When he was starting off his career at Motherwell the manager ( Tommy McLean ) wanted him to play as a centre forward rather than a winger. He did not fancy it, and was never out the manager’s office asking to go back on the wing.
Posted by Fat Boab
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:16:07
“ Wembley was just like Shawfield. They both have a dog track around the pitch. “ quote from Clyde manager Craig Brown who went on to become the Scotland manager.
Posted by Clint
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:14:50
In 1960 Rutherglen referee Jack Mowat was in charge of the legendary Real Madrid versus Eintracht Frankfurt European Cup final in front of 135,000 fans at Hampden Park. It is regarded as one of the greatest games ever played. He was paid one shilling and sixpence to meet the cost of his return rail fare from Rutherglen.
Posted by the Ragman
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:13:15
I see than Andy Cheek is on the Greatest players list. Is that the same Andy who was in the musical production of “ Cabaret “ at the Kings Theatre about ten years ago when he played Herr Schultz ? He was a good hard footballer. ( played with a number of local teams ), but was he a good singer ?
Posted by Vodka Vic
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:11:21
A lot of teams did not like coming to play in Rutherglen. It used to be said that even the dogs barked if a stranger came into the town. It was a hard place to win a game.
Posted by R.Rhubarb
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:09:16
Re comment about Andy Cameron: loved his football. He was also a great supporter of local charities. Back in the year 2,000 he was awarded the Loving Cup for his charity work. ( he was born in London, but came to Rutherglen to stay with his Gran during World War Two. )
Posted by R.Rhubarb.
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:08:06
Rutherglen comedian and football fan Andy Cameron released the “ Ally's Tartan Army “ song to mark Scotlands qualification for the 1978 World Cup in Argentina. The single sold over 360,000 copies and reached number 6 in the charts. The B-side was "Ah want tae be a Punk Rocker". The Scotland manager at that time was Ally McLeod. The song was belted out as the players left Hampden Park to go to the World Cup. Were you there that night ? All along the streets of Rutheglen you could hear: “ We're on the march wi' Ally's Army, We're going tae the Argentine, And we'll really shake them up, When we win the World Cup, 'Cos Scotland is the greatest football team.
Posted by Manuel
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:05:38
Re comments below about Senor Archibald and Barcelona: his nickname was Archiegoles. His career started well for Barca: in one of his first games they beat Real Madrid 3-0. He scored one goal and made the two others. All from skills he learned on the streets and pitches of Rutherglen playing with a well worn, baldy, tennis ball.
Posted by Bilko
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:04:37
In the 1940’s tobacco companies used to include portrait cards of players in every packet of cigarettes. Was there any Ruglonians captured ? Every team I played in had smokers. Some would smoke two packets a day. ( some had been addicted since behind the bike shed at primary school with the cool smokers gang ). Some even had a puff of the weed at half time to keep them going. The smokers cough at the end of a game was a common sound then. I suppose lots of players have vices . I also remember seeing a linesman smoking a pipe during a game.
Posted by Blootered
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:01:39
Re comment below about the Burnside Hotel being the hangout for local footballers. I always thought in the 1980’s Chadwicks was better. ( it was the night club on the border between Rutherglen and Cambuslang at Dukes Rd.). Beautiful women, three quid for a meal in a basket, and live music every weekend. I was always a better dancer than a tackler. I played better on a Saturday night, than on a Saturday afternoon
Posted by Spud
Saturday 30th of March 2013 17:00:40
I decided to quit playing local football when the first thing all the young guys in team did when a game finished was check their football coupon, then go down the Main Street and get blootered . They did not care if they got beat and most had fantasy about playing for Partick Thistle. That is not right.
Posted by BARNEY
Saturday 30th of March 2013 16:58:51
One subject that has not been mentioned yet is the after match communal showers. Every team in Rutherglen had someone who stood behind the rest of the players in the showers and annoyed them. For example, there is a well known local player who liked to pee against the other players legs. You know who you are. It was a dangerous place to be if you dropped the soap in the foggy/steamy shower area. Every team had someone who was longest in the showers shampooing and scrubbing. Before showers were introduced there was the big team bath that everyone shared. Not a pleasant place to be if you were last in after playing on a muddy field. Sometimes it felt like a jacuzzi. Nowadays lots of athletes and footballers have an ice bath after a tough training session to smooth their muscles. Years ago in the showers around Rutherglen you always had some nutter who would have a bucket of freezing cold water and throw it over everyone. Not funny if you had just got dressed. The tough guys in the team always had a cold shower after a game: the tough as toffee players liked the hot water. Luckily there was never any hand held nozzles in the old showers They could have caused damage in the wrong hands of some nutter of a team mate. Also thankfully there was no mobile phone cameras and the internet when I played: football dressing rooms are a sacred place and what happens in there should stay in there.
Posted by Nobby
Saturday 30th of March 2013 16:56:39
Every local team had a centre half ( or wee stocky full back with no neck ) who could header a a ball further than he could kick it. If he shouted “ its ma baw “ you stood out the way. Full backs built like Mike Tyson used to be common.
Posted by Vinnie
Friday 29th of March 2013 11:46:35
Clyde had a centre half named Cranmer ( in the late 1990’s ). He once got booked after 13 seconds in a game against Hamilton Accies when he flattened their centre forward. That is the fastest booking I have ever heard of. Can anyone in Rutherglen beat that time ?
Posted by WAG from Upper Burnside
Friday 29th of March 2013 11:40:44
“ It doesn’t matter if we get thumped, we’re playing the game we love. We dinnae get paid for this, we PAY to play. “ Karen Milligan quote who was a player with the Third Lanark Ladies team. The team was reborn 30 years after the original team was disbanded in 1970. She was on a a BBC documentary called the “ Return of Third Lanark “. I bet most guys on the Rutherglens Greatest list have paid to play a game. Football is the greatest game in the world. Love it.
Posted by Sunny
Friday 29th of March 2013 11:39:49
My pre match meal was a tin of Carnation Milk. Never did me any harm. I also used to collect the ginger bottles that were scattered around the pitches on a Saturday after a game. Washed the ash from them and they looked clean and new. We took these to the café and exchanged them for pennies. This was in the days when a fish supper was a shilling.
Posted by Man from Fernhill
Thursday 28th of March 2013 14:38:36
Can anyone tell me : when Steve Archibald went to Barcelona was he replacing Diego Maradona ? Also did Steve wear the number 10 short at Barca ? ( I know he wore the number 8 at Aberdeen, Spurs, etc ), but I think he had to change his shirt number when he went to Spain.
Posted by Jammy
Thursday 28th of March 2013 14:11:58
The great Dutch player Johan Cruyff once said he envied how footballers from Britain went into a dressing room smiling and happy before a game and could then just switch on Aggression once they stepped onto a pitch. Just as well he never played against Dick McLaughlin or Alan Forsythe or then he would have really found out what Rutherglen football aggression is. From the first minute they would intimidate the opposition. Good players to have in any team. I am surprised that Dick never made it into the Rutherglen Greatest Team
Posted by Ich bin ein Berliner
Thursday 28th of March 2013 14:05:04
In Germany the sweeper was very often the best player in the team. They could control a game. There was an unwritten law where teams agreed “ you let our play maker play and we will do the same for you”. Who was the best Sweeper from Rutherglen?
Posted by Rico fae Ruggie
Thursday 28th of March 2013 09:58:08
Re comment below: Steve Archibald was always a target for verbal abuse from some sections of the Clyde supporters. I don’t think they realised what a good player he was. But the worst abuse at Sahwfield was usually for manager Craig Brown. It says a lot for him that he stayed at the Clyde for so long when he got pelters most Saturday afternoons. At Shawfield, you could hear every comment that was made as it echoed around the old stadium. There was no hiding place for the manager.
Posted by Pini Calada
Thursday 28th of March 2013 09:51:14
Top page 3 Sun model June Lake came to Rutherglen in 85 to open the re-furbished Glen Bar on the Main Street. She disco danced into the bar wearing a jump suit and sat on top of the bar counter. The Glen was the first local bar that I remember that had mirrors around the walls. Great football pub also.
Posted by Ivanhoe
Thursday 28th of March 2013 09:44:56
George Best came to Rutherglen in 1985. He was doing a quiz/Social night along with Dickie Davies ( TV sports presenter ), and Susanne Dando ( gymnast ). This was held in the Ford garage down the Glasgow Road and it was to support a number of local charities. Almost 1,000 people turned up to see Georgie. Local rumour has it that the Glens tried to sign him, but he preferred going to Hibs and seeing Miss World at the weekend rather than playing at Southcroft.
Posted by DJ
Thursday 28th of March 2013 09:36:51
“ Steve Archibald has in the past been likened to an unleashed Cobra, but not by anyone who has seen him play football.” Comment in It’s Only an Excuse BBC radio Scotland spoof documentary.
Posted by Baggy Eyes
Thursday 28th of March 2013 09:35:45
Bobby Murdoch owned the Burn Inn pub in Rutherglen. Does anyone know if it had a football team ?
Posted by left Back
Thursday 28th of March 2013 09:34:41
“ He is the nearest thing to Kenny Dalglish that we have. “ – Scotland interim manager Alex Ferguson announcing Steve Archibald would replace Kenny Dalglish in Scotland’s World Cup squad ifor Mexico in 1986. Not bad for a boy from Rutherglen to play in the World Cup finals.
Posted by the Mole.
Thursday 28th of March 2013 09:33:44
Some famous sons from Rutherglen include: Doctor Gorman (surgeon), Alistair McLean (author), Stan Laurel (actor), Robbie Coltrane (actor) Mark McManus (actor), Blythe Duff (actress), Janet Brown (comedienne), Andy Cameron (comedian), Bobby Murdoch (Celtic), Frank McGarvey (Celtic), Jim McInally (Celtic) Harry Hood (Celtic), Colin Jackson (Rangers), Ian Porteous (Aberdeen), Alan McGraw (Morton), Jim Cruikshank (Hearts), Harry Haddock (Clyde) all Footballers, Dougie Thomson (musician), Bill Tennent (TV presenter), Dougie Donnelly (TV presenter), Magnus Magnusson (TV presenter & writer). – See website http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.rundell/Rutherglen.htm for more info. And if you really want to know the history of Rutherglen see http://www.electricscotland.com/history/glasgow/rutherglen.htm - who would have thought all that happened in our toon. For example, I had never heard of Boultrie Loch, a favourite curling place in winter. I wonder if they played football on the ice ?
Posted by Bald Eagle.
Thursday 28th of March 2013 09:32:42
When Kenny Dalglish was manager ( and a player ) for Liverpool and came back to Glasgow to watch a game, he often stopped in Rutherglen Main Street for a fish supper at Marini’s. ( next to the Vogue ). His father and law ( Pat Harkins) also used to be part owner of the New Orleans pub at the end of the Main Street. ( in the mid 1970’s). If you liked jazz on a Saturday morning this was the place to go. A six-piece Dixieland band played that good old-time jazz music for Rugloninas. Kenny was born over the “ border “ in Bridgeton, and narrowly missed being a Ruglonian. He might have been good enough for the Greatest team. P.s. that wee row of shops at the chippy is quite famous in Ruggie. Dr.Gorman was born in the flats above the chippy. George Best would sometimes play a full game only touching the ball with one foot on purpose. He liked the challenge of going 90 minutes only touching/passing/tackling with one foot. The only other player I know who did this was Steve Archibald. I am not sure if it is fact or mythe but whne he played for Clyde he would sometimes do this.
Posted by GAB
Wednesday 27th of March 2013 21:04:42
Think one of my favourite teams to play against when I was with Fernhill Ath was Cardross away they had a super enclosed pitch almost like a junior team but the best part was after the game they had a portakabin for dressing rooms which also had a bar in it with a television you could also get food as well you virtually had to drag us out of there to get back to the Burnside on a saturday night also when we played our home games at Newton it was good to go over to The Coach and Horses for a few beers and then you guessed it back to old faithful The Burnside and catch up with everyone great days.
Posted by Man at C&A
Sunday 24th of March 2013 16:05:40
Some amateur teams that came to play in Rutherglen in the 1970’s use to be well dressed in their club blaser, white shirt, club tie. I think it might have been Eastercraigs or Drumchapel Amateurs. ( the 2 biggest amateur teams in the country at that time.). Did any local Rutherglen teams have to be suited up on a Saturday – if so does anyone rememer who and what colours ??
Posted by Number 10
Sunday 24th of March 2013 15:31:44
“ For 33 years I was the hardest trainer in British football. People can take the mickey out of me, call me a crackpot, but in eatiung rice and fruit and having self hypnosis tapes on the bus going to games I was way ahed of my time.” This is a quote by goalkeeper John Burridge who played for many teams including Hibs. He also said many players were stupid , “ Spending all night in the pub or losing a weeks wages on the horses .” John used to take a ball to bed with him – he was obsessed with football. How many players on this list used to take a ball to bed ? - Yes – me too.
Posted by the Bunnet
Sunday 24th of March 2013 15:30:50
When I was a lad watching a game at pitches around the Burgh many goalkeepers had a cap ( bunnet ). Before a game they would throw it on the ground in the back of the net. They kept “stuff “ in it : like chewing gum, his teeth , a spare boot stud, something to tie broken fingers together, and on occasions, a chib. You do not see many Goalkeepers wearing a cap nowadays. I wonder why. Is it no longer fashionable?
Posted by Midfield Dynamo
Saturday 23rd of March 2013 11:39:14
I was watching the Sctland V Wales World Cup qualifier last night at Hampden. It was snowing throughout the game. I remember about 40 years ago it snowed regularly in Rutherglen, and this often meant a day off school. Home made sledges racing down the hill , hitting girls with snowballs, and football was how we passed our time. The ball always gathered sticky snow and many a game ended with a mega size snowball fight
Posted by left Back
Saturday 23rd of March 2013 11:38:17
It's often said that many people of a certain age can remember where they were when John Lennon died or Neil Armstrong walked on the Moon, but how many Ruglonians remember where they were when Steve Archibald signed for Barcelona ?
Posted by H
Saturday 23rd of March 2013 11:37:15
Comment: ...Who in Rutherglen was called The Next ...'Bobby Murdoch'...???
Posted by Rod the Rug
Saturday 23rd of March 2013 11:36:26
Here is a wee song for you about one of Rutherglens top players – Kenny Whitters. He always played with a smile on his face, but when you gave the ball to him you had no chance of getting it back. Kenny liked to dribble. Hw was built like a butchers dug, and had a mop of Red hair. The song is sung to the music of Guantanamera. One ginger Pele, There’s only one ginger Pele, One ginger Pele, There’s only one ginger Pele ! ( repeat ). It is the catchy tune that sticks in your head for days. What a player Kenny was.
Posted by Bud
Saturday 23rd of March 2013 11:35:12
I was watching a DVD last night of Rutherglen’s Greatest player ( Bobby Murdoch ) playing for Scotland in Belfast against Northern Ireland. Unfortunately he could not get near Georgie Best, who was just amazing. George said this was one of the greatest games he ever played. People in Belfast still talk about his performance even today. ( 40 years after the game ). The game is on the DVD called “ The official George Best story “ Genius, Maverick, Legend. When you watch him in his prime, he is as good as Messi.
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 19th of March 2013 19:57:06
Comment: Well done to big John Daly AND Frank Daly (dad) RIP god bless them all in 'AVOCA' team .
Posted by Johnny Rocket
Tuesday 19th of March 2013 17:48:22
Leo Messi recently collected his fourth Ballon d'Or ( World Footballer of the Year )in a row. Here in Rutherglen we have our own orginal Messi – of course it is Tam Bennet. Tam played in the 70’s when boots, pitches, tackles and footballs were all a lot heavier than today. He was a gifted player. He would have won the Ballon d’Rutherglen.
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 19th of March 2013 17:47:22
Change Lives Through Football: If you Love Football then you can get Involved in Glasgow. There are many ways in which you can get involved with Street League and help us tackle youth unemployment across the UK. - glasgow@streetleague.co.uk
Posted by nosey p
Friday 15th of March 2013 21:12:40
does any1 remember a goalkeeper called tam rae..?
Posted by The Immigrant
Tuesday 12th of March 2013 20:40:42
Was home recently visiting Fernhill for the first time in 30 years read about site in the local rag.What a great idea hats off to Mr Robert Harvey I look at the list of names from Fernhill alone and get amazing flashbacks guts like Davie Cleugh,Stevie McKeown,Craig Speirs,Kenny Whitters,Jimmy Anderson,Tam Bennett,Jamie Martin,Gordon Brown,Robert McCallum and of course Bobby himself these guys lived and breathed football hope your all well. One name I do not see on the list is George Collins another super wee player who deserves a mention no doubt I will have missed a few others brings back great memories reading about them all.Watched all these guys playing through the years with Fernhill Athletic.
Posted by Walter
Sunday 10th of March 2013 11:38:12
I always wonder just how good some of the players on this list could have been if they had been more professional, had a bit more luck, and lived and breathed football and did not chase Wine, Women and Song on a Friday night. I also think about the impact they could have had on the football in Scotland and could have gone on to be recognised GLOBALLY as world stars. ( there are a few on this list who did get Global recognition ). It is a crying shame that very talented footballers in Rutherglen can somehow be forgotten. I'm new to this website but have really enjoyed the comments offered and there are a lot of very interesting local discussions and topics that have caught my attention. P.S. if you go onto the Barcelona website http://www.fcbarcelona.com/ you will find something about Steve Archibald. – If you go onto the Spartak Moscow website http://www.spartak.com you will find something about Aiden McGeady. Not bad for 2 guys who were born in Rutherglen. P.P.S. My favourite player was Bobby Murdoch.
Posted by Egghead
Sunday 10th of March 2013 11:37:22
David Ross is the only person ever to appear on the BBC TV programme 'MASTERMIND' to take British football as a specialist subject. He also appeared on ITV's 'The People Versus' where he successfully answered questions on 'Scottish Club Football since 1874. I wonder if knows what the first ever football game played in Rutherglen was ? ( see www.scottishleague.net ) for more information .
Posted by Sid Snot
Sunday 10th of March 2013 02:30:45
I remember a game I played in for Fernhill Ath in the early seventies where I was up against big Alan Forsyth and Neil Carr in goal.What a nightmare those guys were bloody good.That was one of the hardest games I ever took part in and I played against a lot of great players in my time.We outplayed them that night but just could not get past those two.Both of them well deserve there place in Rutherglens finest.
Posted by BAWHEID
Friday 08th of March 2013 18:16:22
Comment: should not be forgotten that Bernard ( Benny Rooney ) also went on to be player coach for Greenock Morton, where he had a very sucessful team and even topped the premier league at one point.HERO
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 03rd of March 2013 21:25:04
There is a fantastic website called http://www.scottish-football-historical-archive.com/ - If you ever wanted to know how many Senior and Junior teams came from Rutherglen, here is the list. Many thanks to Brian McColl for providing this information: Bankhead : Junior : Caledonian: Junior. 1880-1884 : Caledonian: Senior: 1880-1884. Clydebank: Junior: 1973-1886 : Clydebank : Senior: 1873 – 1886 : Clydesdale: Senior. 1883 –1992 : Glenburn : Junior 1880-1881 : Glencairn Athletic: Junior: Greenbank Rutherglen : Senior: 1877- 1881: Rutherglen : Senior : 1884 – 1892 : Rutherglen Athletic : Junior : 1897 – 1898 : Rutherglen Comrades : Junior : Rutherglen Glencairn : Junior : 1895 – : Rutherglen Strollers : Junior : Rutherglen Swifts: Junior: 1885-1886 : Rutherglen Waverley: Junior : 1922 – 1925 : Strathclyde Senior : Senior : 1877 – 1878 : Titwood Glencairn : Junior : Upper Clydesdale : Senior : 1878 –1882 ; Westburn : Senior : White Star : Junior : 1881 –1882. END OF FILE.
Posted by Baywatcher
Sunday 03rd of March 2013 11:00:41
You always knew who the players would be who made all sorts of execuses to miss training on a Wednesday night. Best one I heard was “ I had to turn back home when I seen a UFO as I was driving up the big hill to Fernhill “. You also knew the guys who would never miss training. There is one guy on this list who had to miss training, but instead decided to run and up down the stairs in his close. That is dedication for you
Posted by Fernando
Sunday 03rd of March 2013 10:59:06
Am I the only local footballer ( ex ) who has something in common with Wayne Rooney ? He once scored 0% in his Spanish exam at school – me too.
Posted by Marty
Friday 01st of March 2013 20:20:48
I liked some of the advice below that fathers gave to their son about football. My old man used to tell me “ you should always play against better players than you are . That is the only way you become better. “ Admittedly he always had a few sherbets in him when he uttered these wise words. But looking back he was probably right. Pity I was a bit of a diddy when I played against many of the good players on the Rutherglens Greatest players list. P.S. He also told me that being good at football at school would get me more good looking birds than being good at algebra or chemistry. Thanks Dad you got that one wrong as well
Posted by the Hulk
Thursday 28th of February 2013 22:00:00
My girlfriend told me to choose between her or football with my mates.. I’m really going to miss her. As my old Da used to “ Son , love hurts ,, but not as much as giving away a penalty kick in a big game “. He always spoke so much sense on a Friday night when he came home from the Main Street after a few whiskies and a few pints of Sweet Stout.
Posted by Midfield General
Thursday 28th of February 2013 21:58:42
Every birthday I got a new plastic ball. I still remember the colour and smell . A ball at my feet and my Dad showing me how to dribble. What more do you need when you are a wean ?
Posted by Jealous Guy
Thursday 28th of February 2013 21:11:51
Whoever put that picture up of Scott Walker certainly gave him the better looking of the two singing brothers think our Mr Walker should have stuck to singing naw who am a kidding cracking player in his day hope ur still alive and kicking wish a had had have his talent
Posted by anonymous
Thursday 28th of February 2013 21:09:27
Re photo in the Gallerry: The St. Mark's 1960 Burgh Cup lie-up was, I think, as follows: L to R (Back Row) Ned McKeon (in suit) Players:4 John Colligan 2 Robert Heaney 5 kenny McCallum (?) 1 Peter Houston 6 Brendan Bradley (capt.)3 Tommy carroll (Front Row)7 James Murdoch 8 Eric Coyle 9 Billy Murdoch 10 Harry McGuire (?) 11 Willie Divers. I've been looking for photos like this for years. Any chance of a copy? I forgot to list Frank Daley (school janitor)at the end of the list.
Posted by Lev
Wednesday 27th of February 2013 21:05:16
I see that the Goalkeepers are taking some stick on this site. Never blame the keeper when the opposition score. Before the ball gets past the keeper , it has to go past 10 other players. FACT ! Worst sight in the world is a defender blaming a goalie. I hated that. There are two types of players. - those who’s mouth do all the talking and those who’s feet ( or hands ) do all the talking. Which one were you ?
Posted by Fray Bentos
Wednesday 27th of February 2013 21:04:16
If you have have never got a red card, you are not passionate enough. If you have never got a yellow card you are not passionate enough. If the ref has never had to talk to you. Give Up. I am willing to bet that ever player on this list has been booked at least once in their careers
Posted by Bacardi John
Wednesday 27th of February 2013 21:03:09
Most guys on this list will have a football scar : I got mine in the rain at the Glasgow Green. It was a late tackle from a full back with tackety boots that hit me in the thigh. I lost a plug of muscle. Never seen the tackle coming. Still got a hole in my leg. As my old da used to say “ It’s just skin it’ll grow back”. He never thought a player had a good game unles he came off at the end of the game limping or bleeding. You can take the player out of the game, but you can never ever ever take the game out of the player. Grass stains, Mud stains, Blood stains – I still miss it. Happy days.
Posted by Wee Harry
Wednesday 27th of February 2013 21:02:21
My wife has left me because of my obsession with football. It’s a pity as we have been together for 10 seasons. You’re born, you die, in between you play football. Winning isn’t everything. Oh wait, yes it is! The End
Posted by Wee Harry
Wednesday 27th of February 2013 20:14:50
Wake Up and Smell the Liniment. Old football players used horse liniment for a pre match rub. You had to be very careful about touching your eyes or other parts after using it. ( If you were going out with your wife to the Odeon or winching your girlfriend after the game , you had to wash your hands thoroughly ( no showers in those days ) to avoid giving her a nasty surprise ). You also had to look out for the addictive liniment sniffers in the dressing room. Also the old physios used to think it was a cure all for every injury. Horse products are getting a bad press at present ( i.e.. Burgers, lasagne, Spaghetti Bolognese etc, etc ) but a pre match rub made you feel fit.. Word of caution – you should never drink out of the liniment bottle. It is easy to confuse it with the bottle of lemonade before a match when you were all nervous and hyper.
Posted by Monty P
Monday 25th of February 2013 17:56:18
Reading through the comments below I see that Big Danny Houston was an expert at saving penalties. But did the Big Man even see anything as bizarre as this ? Clyde were playing Rangers at Ibrox in 1899. Rangers were awarded a penalty that had to be retaken 3 times for various infringements. The Clyde goalie Donnelly crawled on his hands and knees to the penalty spot to put off the Rangers player. Eventually the goalie saved the kick. Cannot imagine big Danny doing that on the Fernhill ash park
Posted by GAB
Saturday 16th of February 2013 17:13:35
Met Gilly(James Gilmour)this afternoon while out for a walk gave me his most prized possession to upload on gallery check it out. Gilly when he played against the Brazilian Zico in Budapest cracking photo better go now and return photo before he comes to my door.
Posted by Bud
Saturday 16th of February 2013 10:29:39
Did anyone see that TV football program on Channel 4 this morning ? It was a 30 minute short film called Kingsmeadow ( I think ). There are over 40,000 school/amateur/professional teams in the UK today. It shows what a local football team can do for a Community. Also the camaraderie footballers have with their team mates. It showed local pitches from all over the UK. It reminded me of the buzz on a Saturday afternoon at the local pitches around Rutherglen
Posted by Baldy Bain
Saturday 16th of February 2013 10:28:35
Nice quote about Desi Divers the barber below. In the last 60’s I think every boy in Rutherglen went to Desi’s for ra short back and sides. Mothers used to sit in the background of the shop watching every move. It was a good shop. There was always talk about football. It used to close at dinner time on a Saturday. Desi used to go to a football game. If you were last in the barber queue, it could be a quick haircut as he would not miss his football match
Posted by old Bill
Saturday 16th of February 2013 10:27:08
Does anyone remember the football pitch at the end of the Cathkin bye pass. ? There was some spare ground there fully grassed next to the Cathkin Church. Used to always see the jackets down as goal posts and a game in progress. The weather never stopped a game: rain, snow, or gale
Posted by A.Ruglonian
Saturday 16th of February 2013 10:26:25
A few stories about Bobby Murdoch: A: - He turned down an offer of 8 pounds a week to join Motherwell when he was 15 years old. They were a great team then in the 1950’s with several players who played for Scotland. Ian St.John was probably the most famous. Bobby decided he wanted to be a sheet metal worker. I think he started out in a place down near Farme Cross. B: - “Are you up to sign our Robert ? You would be better signing me. I’m a better player.” Bobby Murdoch’s brother Billy allegedly said to Celtic Manager Jimmy McGrory and reserve team coach Jock Stein, the night they came to the Murdoch house to sign young Bobby
Posted by Bilko
Friday 15th of February 2013 23:14:37
The Brazilian winger Garrincha is known as the greatest dribbler in history of football. ( see his clips on YOUTUBE. Unbelievable). But the greatest dribbler from Rutherglen was probably big Iain McGuigan from Spittal. What a player he was. Give the ball to him, and you never seen it again for a few minutes. During a game he could bamboozle his marker so much, the defender fell to the ground as the big yin ran past him. Instead of carrying on, Ian would dribble back to his opponent, pick him up and then carried on down the pitch. It was like the ball was stuck to his boot. Incredible balance for a big guy.
Posted by anonymous
Friday 15th of February 2013 22:18:21
Message: Great to see so many old pals getting a mention but reference to my dads shop desi divers is bril remember the good times playing for st marks,trinity,fernhill,croftfoot not a bad side.
Posted by The Defender
Friday 15th of February 2013 20:50:21
Did anyone see the Juventus defenders wrestle the Celtic players at every corner kick at the champions League Game a few nights ago ? – That is the way Dick McLaughlin defended in the 1970’s. Great defending if you get away with it.
Posted by T Shirt
Friday 15th of February 2013 20:49:02
Tam is the only player from Rutherglen who is in the Guinness Book of Records. His party piece was with the ball
Posted by carrots
Thursday 07th of February 2013 09:39:02
have just read that bobby harvey has donated all £1,000 proceeds from the sale of the book version of this website to David Walker gardens in rutherglen. well done Bobby.
Posted by RH
Monday 04th of February 2013 19:39:28
Photo of the St.Columkilles Burgh Cup final team in 1960 posted onto the website. This phoq was taken at Southcroft. Notice the old buildings/tenements in the background. Jim Callaghan, Willie Tonner, McKenzie, Mochan, Gallagher, W.Mullen, A.Mullen, Mick Sweeney, Clark, P.Doyle, Ronnie Jackson, McGuinness. The teachers are Tommy Jackson and Terry Heaney.
Posted by Right Winger
Monday 04th of February 2013 19:34:49
Sean Fallon was assistant to Jock Stein at Celtic in the 1960’s when Celtic were at the height of their powers. He could be seen regulary on weekday mornings walking along Rutherglen Main Street on his way to Celtic Park. ( he used to live up in Menock Rd, whick is about a 1 hour walk to Celtic Park ). Cannot imagine many managers of players doing that today. He also played for Celtic in the 1950’s and could be seen training up the Cathkin Braes
Posted by joe mckeldry...x factor winner
Thursday 31st of January 2013 22:20:16
theres a hidden tribe in darkest peru who have a phrase that means football is the water of mans legs...it goes like this.....enthootiigessatthafeeena sa vesutti...
Posted by The Footballer
Monday 28th of January 2013 19:44:58
I remember going to play an under 16 game over in Easterhouse. I was surprised that every player in the opposition had a beard and looked like a hippy. Still you never argued in Easterhouse
Posted by Ma Baw
Monday 28th of January 2013 19:43:27
I used to watch grown men going berserk over the football fields at Fernhill on a Saturday afternoon. They would shout and bawl and threaten and swear and the veins would be sticking out from their foreheads in anger. All because the opposition winger placed the ball two inches outside the D circle when taking a corner kick
Posted by rosco peako
Friday 11th of January 2013 22:38:42
i used to play alongside jim wylie...as in jim jimmy....just after pre season had come to an end...the first league game would arrive soon after...in the dressing room before the very first game of the season jim would always cut his toe nails,well the ones that were over grown..and depending on how many nails jim needed to cut he would multiply it by 2 ..and that would be his prediction for the amount of goals he would score that season...for 5 seasons he was correct...great days
Posted by Main St Wanderer
Friday 11th of January 2013 09:26:28
The French call it “ le coup de foundre”. The Scottish translation is “ love at first sight “. Every player on this list has fallen in love with a football team at some stage. For me it was the first time I went to Southcroft Park to see the Rutherglen Glencairn. The famous black and white strips, the patter from the crowd, the smell of hot pies and Bovril, the huge smoking White’s chemical factory behind the goals that lit up Rutherglen when it was dark, and all the good players who played for the Glens. I still like to check the Glens score every week in the Reformer.
Posted by 1 sock gab
Tuesday 08th of January 2013 07:14:29
a footballers kit in the 70sss,always included a hair curling brush,and a small easy to hide can of hairspray,the mullet brigade as they were known....tam bennet,dixie,lloydy...big jim jimmy...jimmy lynn...and many more....i wonder how many of those guys now go by the name ..SHAWFIELD....and the hairs off..............hairy days indeed///
Posted by T Shirt
Monday 07th of January 2013 20:39:26
Does anyone remember that famous/spectacular goal that Peter Lorimer scored for Scotland in the World Cup Finals against Zaire? Well, Craigie Speirs used to score goals like that every week in the parks around Rutherglen and District. Craig was the best volleyer of a football ( either foot) from Rutherglen. What a talent.
Posted by Chopper
Monday 07th of January 2013 20:24:31
Wire Brush and The Dettol. That was the best treatment to clean an open wound when the skin came off your thigh after a slide tackle on an ash park. I always thought the Overtoun Park ask/gravel stung the most. ( and it was a also a strange white pus colour ).
Posted by Tinkermann
Monday 07th of January 2013 20:23:09
The grass outside our house was roughly the size of a wee football park. It was smooth and level and green. This was in the days before Government austerity cuts, and the Council maintained and cut it regularly over the summer. It looked like Hampden Park on Cup final day. All the boys up our close and along out street loved to play five a side on it. Happy days with not a care in the world. P.S.. I remember a well known goalkeeper on this list let in a loads of goals because he was standing at his goal post trying to chat up a local bird.
Posted by Nobby
Monday 07th of January 2013 20:22:05
Our old house had under floor heating: on a cold winters day it was a great feeling to take off your football boots and your feet would heat up after a few minutes. Under floor heating was great invention.
Posted by Commando
Monday 07th of January 2013 20:21:20
Fitness was important to big Jim. He went for a run every night to the Ice Cream van that came around our scheme and he bought a double nougat and a bottle of Tizer..
Posted by Midfield General
Monday 07th of January 2013 20:20:32
Big Jim was possibly the most combatitive player on Planet Fitba. He was in the Guinness Book of Records for most late tackles. The big man was a legend in his own brain.
Posted by The Blether
Tuesday 01st of January 2013 17:54:11
It is New Year’s Day. This fine fresh sunny morning we went for a walk up the Cathkin Braes. What a shock when we arrived at the top plateau. It is now a mud heap with tractor/heavy lorry marks across the whole open parkland.. They have left big deep muddy furrows everywhere. There are also black tarmacadam/ash bike lanes zig zagging everywhere across the Braes. I understand this area is going to be used when the Commonwealth games come to Glasgwo in a few years. It seems a shame to me. Lots of players on the Rutherglen’s Greatest Players list will have good memories of playing football on the Braes. It was a fantastic place to play. Still I suppose everything changes eventually. But one thing that will never be replaced is the fantasic panoramic views across Glasgow and right down to the snowy mountains at the Lochs. The Cathkin Braes must be one of the best vantage points in the whole of Scotland.
Posted by Cinderella from Upper Burnside
Monday 31st of December 2012 20:00:51
It is is Hogmanay tonight in Rutherglen. Remember there are only 3 things you need to be contented in 2013. (a). A football team to support. (b). A local pub with a good pint. (c). A hobby. - Wishing everyone a very Happy New Year. P.s. If anyone on this list is going to the Singles Night in Tesco at 10 pm tonight (especially Prince Charming), don’t forget to buy me a drink. Aw the best. P.S. My ugly sisters are not going to be there.
Posted by the Prof
Monday 31st of December 2012 19:12:16
In the World Cup in 2002 in Japan/Korea the tournament was won by Brazil. One of the key men behind the scenes was a physical preparation specialist names Paulo Paixao. He said before the World Cup that the side who had the physical and sports medicine aspect best organised would have the best chance of winning. And that's what happened. When I played in the local Rutherglen leagues years ago there was no such thing as a “physical preparation “ or Massage specialist. You gave yourself a rub down with wintergreen oil, and if you got injured during a game the trainer came on with a Bucket and the Magic Sponge full of a million bacteria. No matter the injury, it was the same treatment. Never done me any harm
Posted by GAB
Monday 31st of December 2012 18:02:31
Good to see the site is as active as ever keep the stories coming for another year all the best to everyone out there Happy new year hope you all have a good one.
Posted by Fray Bentos
Sunday 30th of December 2012 20:26:52
I was watching a game on TV today. A manager was standing at the side of the park with a note pad scribbling notes. He was missing watching most of the game with his note taking. I cannot imagine big Dan Cowan standing at the side of the Fernhill pitch all those years ago pencil behind his ear and A4 note pad in hand. I mean, what do managers write ? – P.S. I remember lots of the players liked a wee refreshing drink of gassy Irn Bru or Coca Cola at half time, but Big Dan always tried to give us a quarter slice of an orange.
Posted by Rio Clyde
Sunday 30th of December 2012 20:18:38
Re post below: Big Jim was the first player in Rutherglen to wear a nasal strip. It is a pity that a photograph does not exist that could be donated to the Rutherglen Museum of Football memorabilia department. He retired too early. I understand he wanted to spend more time with himself as he was the only one who knew what he was talking about. Still he was a good tough player who always got a bit of the ball as he clattered an opponent.
Posted by Football Mad
Sunday 30th of December 2012 20:12:06
My mother would skelp my arse if I came home from school with green grass stains on my new shool trousers. I was always picked to play in goals for a game on the way home after school. I must have been the only Goalie in Rutherglen who did not like to dive. P.S. I also had to bring my wee brother everywhere with me, and he always wanted to join in the game. I used to try and bribe him with a bottle of Red Kola to get lost, but it was never enough.
Posted by Godeln Oldie
Sunday 30th of December 2012 20:05:48
Steve Archibald was not a natural Goal Scorer. – OK he must have scored over 150 goals in his career in Scotland, England, and Spain, but anyone who seen him play as a teenager would never have guessed he would turn out a goalscorer. Hats off to him. He is the role model footballer for the young Rutherglen football generation.
Posted by Ted Monster
Sunday 30th of December 2012 19:59:11
Re post about Tam B: I remember as a boy we all used to go over the football field on a Sunday afternoon for a game. 20 a side. Tam used to score about 15 goals then go up the road for his tea.
Sunday 30th of December 2012 19:58:10
Big Jim W - what a defender. Fearless and would even play on with a broken nose.
Posted by Ex pat
Sunday 30th of December 2012 19:56:51
Defenders are often overlooked when picking a greatest team. There is usually an embarrassement of riches when picking a forward: they are usually the goal scoring heroes. But I think the Greatest player should always be a midfield player. That is where you win games according to the top coaches. My other comment the Greatest should only be players that you have seen “ live”. ( not on the telly, or heard about.) – Who is the greatest Rutherglen player that you have seen “ Live “ ?
Posted by Jim " the nutmeg King "
Sunday 30th of December 2012 19:55:09
Some names from the past on this list : Tam Bennett – he was good un. Best tricks, nutmegs, goal assists, cross field passes in Rutherglen during season 1976/77. Tam was one of those players you just gave him a jersey and told him to go out and play in any position that he wanted. It is a pity that Barcelona did not have a 5 day “Rising Star ” training camp in the Overtoun Park in the 1970’s to find the best players from Rutherglen. He was a better player than Senor Archibald. ( in my opinion ).
Posted by Budgie
Sunday 30th of December 2012 19:53:39
Former Portugal, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Inter Milan midfielder Luis Figo gave this piece of advice for all young footballers across the world ( including Rutherglen ) who hoped to make it big through the game. "Nothing falls from the sky. You have to work for it. The ingredients are hard work, dedication, devotion, supreme effort and sacrifice. Never forget the motto - to play and achieve greatness. Follow your dream with passion." - I wonder who the next superstar from Rutherglen will be ?
Posted by Victor
Sunday 23rd of December 2012 21:53:02
The next time kids are playing football in our street and hitting my car with their ball, I promise I will not shout and tell them to clear off. Instead I will go out and show them how to curl the ball into the goal from 25 yards. I will pass on my wisdom and skill learned on the mean streets of Rutherglen to the next generation. That will be my Christmas Gift 2012. Ho Ho Ho. Merry Christmas.
Posted by the Jogger
Wednesday 12th of December 2012 23:31:00
There was a guy in Chapmans who always stood at the bar. If someone dropped a coin he could flip it up with his boot and catch it in his pocket without most people noticing it. His ball control was brilliant. Can’t remember his name but he played on the local football circuit and was a Jose Mourianho look alike.
Posted by JC
Tuesday 11th of December 2012 21:44:02
If you went to game up the Overton Park you could see lots of players with bow legs. I think it was the local diet that did it. These wee hard men would usually be wingers. Socks at the ankles, jersey outside the shorts, red hair, and scared of no full back. Courage straight from the trenches, they would fight for every ball. Good direct wingers with a bad temper are a loss to modern day football. The old crowds loved and cheered the dribbling winger
Posted by Virgil
Tuesday 11th of December 2012 21:42:56
German great Franz Beckenbauer once famously played through the pain barrier with a Dislocated shoulder strapped up in the 4-3 semi-final defeat against Italy in the 1970 World Cup in Mexico. There was also a player named Hector Castro who played for Uruguay in the 1930’s who lost his arm in a chainsaw accident when he was a boy. He went on to be a top player and scored a goal in the first World Cup Final. It must be so difficult to play footbal when you only have one arm. Has there ever been a one armed player in the Local Rutherglen leagues ?
Posted by the Banter
Tuesday 11th of December 2012 21:42:07
Re post below about the soggy Blairbeth pitch : when you played there you always wanted to attack the deep end in the first half to get it over and done with
Posted by Number 10
Tuesday 11th of December 2012 21:41:19
Paddy Crerand once described a Scottish footballer : “ He could have great natural ability, fight like King Kong, and have a button he could press to destroy himself. “. Maybe a few players like that on the Rutherglens Greatest player list ?
Posted by X Fact
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:18:21
“ How we love those Rutherglen boys, with their wavy culry curls, From their sweet and Ruby lips, You always get the flavour of Fish and Chips.! “ – The Rutherglen Kelly girls football song in the 1920’s.
Posted by Scoop
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:17:22
Kelly’s Rutherglen football team were the only female football team in Scotland in the 1920’s. The team was made up of women from Rutherglen, across Scotland and even Northern Ireland. The girls were local celebrities. They toured the country raising money for the service men who had fought in the Great War. In 1921 they beat the World Champions ( The Dick Kerr Ladies team from Preston ) at Shawfield. ( Check Google to find out more about this famous team. ). This was a sensational result. Both teams went back to the Rutherglen Town Hall after the game for tea and a civic reception. The Ruthrglen team was run by James Kelly. The family home was 23 Victoria Street in Rutherglen. The team played from 1920 to 1928. They beat male teams including the Rutherglen Police Station team and and a team from Africa who played in their bare feet. The full story of the Rutherglen Kelly team is in the November issue of the Scottish Memories magazine. It is worth a read, even just to learn about their unusual training methods !
Posted by The 007
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:16:34
BREAKING NEWS: It has been rumoured that on Sunday one of Rutherglen’s Greatest Goalkeepers ( he said he should be Number 1 ) was captured on a camera phone buying a round of drinks in Chapman’s Pub. He can usually go from his table to the bar and back without spilling a drop quicker that it takes Usain Bolt to run 100 metres. An insider said this unique event has been captured on a memory stick and will be downloaded soon. ( I will only believe it when I see it. ). P.S. This ex goalkeeper’s favourite drink is a pint of Guiness and a wee glasss of sherry with two chunks of ice. P.P.S. This goalie knocked our more centre forwards that that big German Toni Schumacher who decked that French player Patrick Battison in the semi final of the 1982 World Cup
Posted by Uncle Ben
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:15:47
I heard someone say that the best pub football team in Rutherglen used to be the Old Spot Inn. I always thought they were best known for being a good Darts team. ( but I could be wrong ).
Posted by MR.Whippy
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:14:49
The hardest place to play football in Glasgow was the Glasgow Green: there was more assaults and batterings after a game in the changing rooms at the Green than there was on the Rutherglen Main Street on a Saturday night
Posted by Midfield General
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:13:50
I was watching a game in the English premiership at the weekend on the telly. Every hard tackle and a foreign players jumped 3 feet in the air. Never happened in my day in the 1950’s in Rutherglen. If you hit somebody they hit the deck and never bounced up. That was the days when men were men. You took a kick and got on with the game
Posted by Mungo Munro
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:12:57
Rutherglen was a hard place to play: I remember a few games when I had to grab my clothes at the end of the game and run for my life. Running down the big hill from Fernhill is not easy with 6 inch studs in your boots. The boys from Fernhill did not like to get beat.
Posted by The old Goalie
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:12:13
Jimmy Dunn came from the Burnhill. What a player he was. He is one of the few players in British football who was awarded a double testimonial by his team ( Leeds United ). The others were the great Stanley Matthews and Tom Finney. Jimmy started his career at the Rutherglen Glens. In the summer close season he used to come back to Rutherglen and walk around to the Quarry Bar for a pint. We were always too scared to ask for his autograph
Posted by Popeye
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:11:24
Rutherglen’s Great Sports Photograph: that is easy. Late 1960’s edition of the Reformer. It was the local school Cup Final : cracking photo of Danny Carr and Gerry Harvey swanning through the air like a couple of Spanish Flamenco Dancers. A collectors piece: worth a few quid on e-bay.
Posted by JC
Monday 10th of December 2012 17:10:30
My Greatest Sporting memory – that is easy. I once nutmegged Steve Archibald playing a game outside his house on Toryglen Road.
Posted by GAB
Sunday 09th of December 2012 22:01:31
The last match I ever played in was back in 2002 I was running Fulham B.C.under15s with John Mackie and we were invited to play a in an end of season challenge cup match against Leven Thistle under 15s at Renfrew juniors ground. We eventually ran out winners after extra time and penalties and then myself,John,Frank McAllister and Stevie Clarkson were asked to play in the charity match afterwards.It was really good to play against ex professionals like Gordon Smith,Bobby Russell, Sandy Clark,Gerry Britton and the infamous Chic Young to name but a few.Although we lost 6-3 on the night it was great to watch these ex players still knocking the ball about with one touch football.It was a really enjoyable night and for a good cause at the time and a nice way to bow out from being involved in football for myself at the grand old age of 46.
Posted by Sweeper
Friday 07th of December 2012 17:27:23
There is a German cult film in the 1970’s called “ The Goalkeepers Fear of the Penalty “. The goalkeeper describes what it is like to face a penalty: should he dive to one side, and if he does will the kicker aim for the other? It is a psychological confrontation in which each tries to outfox the other. Saving penalties is probably one of the hardest things to do in all of sport, unless you were big Danny Houston. I think the Big Man should write a blog “ Tips for Saving a Penalty “.
Posted by anonymous
Friday 07th of December 2012 17:11:28
There is a story in the November edition of the 'Scottish Memories' magazine about a professional woman's football team in Rutherglen that was formed in 1920 called The Kellys. Does anyone have any information on this team ? http://www.exacteditions.com/read/scottish-memories/november-2012-33538/26/2/
Posted by Taxi Driver
Friday 07th of December 2012 17:10:39
Does anyone remember the Sunday games over the park -everyone could join in. Even your Dad.
Posted by Rum Baba
Friday 07th of December 2012 17:09:30
“ Without the ball we are a horrible team. “. That is a quote from ex Barcelona manager Pepe Guardiola. The great Barcelona team are a small team in height. But they win the ball back very quickly – I think their target is to get the ball back within 7 seconds. They do this by perfect positioning and killing space in groups. There used to be a team in Rutherglen in the early 1900’s called the The Rutherglen Midgets. Maybe their manager was a man ahead of his time. I wonder what his name was ? Football ability and skill should always beat “ bottle” and “ grit “ and “ can run miles without getting tired “. What do you think – does size matter on the football pitch ?
Posted by Burnside Geisha
Friday 07th of December 2012 17:08:18
Once upon a time a Frenchman named Roland Barthes said (and I am para phrasing ) , “ to a man the most erotic thing is the skin flashing between two articles of clothing ( suspenders and skirt ) , between two edges (the open-necked shirt ), or the glove and the sleeve) “. If anyone is talking to my old man in the pub this weekend can you tell him this. His favourite player scoring a hat trick is NOT an erotic moment. Also I don’t know if any readers of this site remember the scandal years ago when a married MP ( David Mellor ) had a girl friend and the press reported she used to wear a Chelsea Football strip to bed for him. Just so we are 100 % clear, if you are talking to me old man then tell him I am NOT interested in him buying me a pair of Rutherglen Glencairn pyjamas for my Christmas.
Posted by BamPot
Friday 07th of December 2012 17:07:18
The Laws of Football say that a crossbar should be no wider than 5 inches. Probably most guys on this list have played on pitches that had much BIGGER crossbars. When I was a boy we made our own: a plank of wood a few nails and job was done. There was always future joiner in the team. The best “ DIY” goals were at the wee park down next to the burn in Blairbeth. ( near the woods ). There was no flood lights, no lines, long grass, and if the ball went in the burn, somebody had to paddle in and get it. Happy Days Living the Dream of being a footballer. P.S. In those days there was also no radio masts next to the pitches blasting out microwaves across the Burgh.
Posted by Dixie
Thursday 06th of December 2012 17:51:31
Re the post on Billy Singh - Billy went to St Marks primary in the 60s,im not sure if he played in the school team. Good lad was Billy wonder where he is now !!!
Posted by Curious Gus
Thursday 06th of December 2012 17:43:59
Has any Rutherglen team remained UNBEATEN in a League season ?
Posted by Fitness Fanatic
Thursday 06th of December 2012 17:23:39
It was a freezing cold Thursday training night over at the Langside College pitch. The rainy sleet was just starting to come down. It was then the Third Lanark coach ( you know who you are ), uttered those immortal words: “ Its great to be alive on a night like this. Football pitch, nae nagging women, and a new ball. What more could a man want ?. OK lads lets get out there . We will start off with a Shirts v Skins game. The losers will do 6 laps of the pitch. “
Posted by Angie
Thursday 06th of December 2012 17:22:35
Has there ever been a Rutherglen footballer ( or manager) who did not swear ? Foul mouthed players using abusive language used to ruin our Saturday afternoon’s. ( our 1st floor council apartment overlooked the local park ). I am sure some of them must have had Tourette’s Syndome. The poor wee referees’s took some verbals and blinding when he made a mistake. Can Rutherglen men not express anger without swearing ?. I am sure that I once seen a big ugly centre half get lockjaw for shouting so much abuse. Young footballers need role models, don’t you think ? Admittedly even my old man swears about the house when watching TV football and our Budgie picks up every word. “ that was never a fxxxxx foul ref “ he repeats ten times a minute. I will need to put a cover over his cage the next time the Minister comes run for tea.
Posted by Right Half
Tuesday 04th of December 2012 22:57:11
My pet hate was spitters on the park – you know who you are. Gobbing everywhere. Also players who went to take a quick throw in, then stoppped. Once, twice, three times, then gave the ball to someone else to throw. I tried to tell my team mates so many times that a throw in is a pass with your hands, But oh no, they still wanted to throw the ball so high it had snow on it. What is your pet hate ?
Posted by Gentle Giant
Tuesday 04th of December 2012 22:48:38
Kevin Keegan once said: “ A team of eleven Berti Vogts would be Invincible “. So would a team of eleven Tam Bennet’s. What a good player, who could play in any position.
Posted by Golden Oldie
Tuesday 04th of December 2012 22:45:40
There are a number of brothers on the list of Rutherglen’s Greatest players. But who are the best twins that played local football ? ( The only identical twins that I remember are Raymond and Francis McLaren from Spittal. They were good players )
Posted by Cristiano
Tuesday 04th of December 2012 19:31:15
Have a look at www.bestfootballplayerever.com - This is a Global site and you can nominate your favourite players. I think we would beat the Rutherglen team.
Posted by Ted Striker
Monday 03rd of December 2012 22:22:56
Some managers ( and players ) used to shout the same thing every week. They all had their own loudmouth catch phrase. “ Stop fannying about “ or “ Give it the welly “ or just do him “. We used to have a static centre half who would constantly scream “ OFFSIDE!” whilst standing ten yards behind the nearest opposition player. ( some of the parks we played on it was only 40 yards from half way line to goal line, and it was almost impossible to be off side ). I always suspected he was mentally ill ( p.s. He sometimes wore a gumshield ). He also did a Bungee jump from the Dalmarnock Bridge. There was also another centre half who kept a hankie up his sleeve: he did not like snot ( or blood ) on his jersey. ( he went on to play at professional level ). You also had some really quiet players on the pitch: they never shouted and expected you to be telepathic. When I watch professional football on telly, the midfield players always seem to have loads of time to stroke the ball and look up. On some of the wee local pitches I played in this would never have happened: you got melted. There were some players you just did not want to play against. One of the hardest teams was the Strathclyde Police in the 1970’s. ( good team, Good players, but some of nutters ).
Posted by anonymous
Monday 03rd of December 2012 22:21:45
I was talking to some local guys recently and asked them if they ever remember an Asian/African/Caribbean players in any of the locals teams in the 1970’s . I don’t remember anyone but I was told there was a guy from Spittal named Billy Singh who played football. ( not sure what team – maybe it was the school team).
Posted by Chukie
Monday 03rd of December 2012 22:20:49
You are having a laugh about the Blairbeth pitch. Uneven surface ( it was on a hill ), ankle turning hidden pot-holes, uncut grass 12 inches high that had tribes of lost pygmies, the fluttering corner flags the size of a parachute, no clear pitch markings, famous for being waterlogged ( even in summer it was a mud bath ). The condition of this pitch would mean even Messi could not have controlled the ball with his first touch. Personally I always thought Sunday morning pub league football was better than Saturday afternoon amateur football.
Posted by Hector
Sunday 02nd of December 2012 19:32:29
Re the post below about sports injuries. My worst was an ingrown hair on my backside. The pain was unbelieveable. I could not sit down at work and there was no way could I play football. I mean what is the physio going to do ? I think I got it from one of those Trainspotting toilet seats in my local pub. Worse than a broken leg.
Posted by RH
Sunday 02nd of December 2012 10:56:25
Ladies/Gents: Just a wee note to thank everyone who has contributed to this site. As you may know a book called “ Rutherglens Greatest “ was created from this site and it contains most of the stories/memories. All proceeds from the book, ( one thousand pounds ) was recently donated to the David Walker Gardens Care home in Rutherglen. ( on the site of the old Gallowflat school ). I understand that this is going to help create a relaxation room for those people who have Dementia/Alzeheimers. This is a terrible disease to see happening to anyone in your family or someone that you care about. Thank You to everyone who has purchased a book. There are a few books still available: if you live in the local area and would like a copy please send an email via this website.
Posted by Jolly Jim
Sunday 02nd of December 2012 10:36:02
There was some pitches that I never played well on. For example, I never kicked a ball when I played down the Oatlands on the BIG Rosebery Park. I think it was cursed by gypsies or something. But I always played well on the big grass pitch at Blairbeth. There was also some players I could not play well against :they were just a bit too good. Funny thing football when I look back. If I did not have an Iron Lung now I would love to play once last game
Posted by Yorkie
Sunday 02nd of December 2012 10:29:09
From Lands End to John O’Groats there is not another town of a similar size that would beat the Rutherglen Greatest team.
Posted by The Optimist
Sunday 02nd of December 2012 00:44:06
A lot has been written about Fernhill Athletic and rightly so.What made this club so important was at the time they were formed there were very few boys clubs in the area for young guys to join.Fernhill filled that gap and gave a lot budding young players a chance to fulfil their dreams of becoming a professional.Much respect to everyone involved in those early days.
Posted by anonymous
Saturday 01st of December 2012 10:09:29
I was talking to a girl from Rutherglen yesterday who recently sent a copy of the “ Rutherglens Greatest Player “ book to her uncle in Canada. He phoned her to thank her for the book. He took it down to his local Social Club and along with other ex Ruglonians they discussed the quotes and stories over a few Canadian beers. Apparently they recognised lots of the names of local players and had a good laugh at some of the stories.
Posted by Angie
Saturday 01st of December 2012 10:07:19
Most Rutherglen football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental. Let's face it, you have to have the mad gene to play in a team ( like my old man ) that gets beat every week, and enjoys kicking a pig skin around a park. But every Sunday morning he is like a wean on Christmas morning as off he trots off in the rain to the “ big” game wearing his “ Eat, Sleep, Play football” t- shirt. And he is usually the team substitute. Men are soo easily pleased.
Posted by Big Diddy
Thursday 29th of November 2012 21:52:14
It was a nice warm night in September 1962. I was still in short trousers. Some of the boys were playing keepie uppie: some were playing headers agains the cellar door: some were chatting up the local Miss World. I was playing a great game of football on the grass outside my house with the others guys from the scheme. Then it happened. My mother chapped the kitchen window and told me to get into the house right away. No argument. The game was over. On our wee black and white telly there was a news flash. An international incident. The Russians were going to put nuclear missiles on Cuba. President Kennedy from the USA was not amused. There was the imminent threat of a Nuclear War. Why my mother thought a nuke would hit Rutherglen I still do not know to this day. But Khrushchev from the USSR and Kennedy ruined a great game of football.
Posted by 1960s rag man
Thursday 29th of November 2012 17:11:00
' I do not play football,i'm an idiot ' copyright of Jim Wylie !!!
Posted by 1930s Tally man
Thursday 29th of November 2012 17:09:23
' I do not play football,I kick people 'copyright of Dick McLaughlin !!!
Posted by Totti
Wednesday 28th of November 2012 20:23:17
" I do not play football, I score goals." copyright of Dave Lloyd.
Posted by Puffin Billy
Tuesday 27th of November 2012 19:58:51
That is a good comment that has been posted against David Cleugh profile. He was a terrific defender; not many could out run him. Fit, fast, good tackler, good engine, and could run 90 mins and not be huffing and puffing at the end. .He was a model footballer who looked after himself. I wonder if he ever did the famous “ beep test “ that was used to gauge a footballers fitness. ( this was a 20 metre shuttle run, with 21 levels. The player had to run faster each time. It was sheer endurance and torture at pre season training. The most I eve seen anyone achieve was a level 8. ). I always thought that Dave could have played at Senior level. Not sure what ever happened to his football career.
Posted by joe
Tuesday 27th of November 2012 05:17:58
i think young james evans was a really good keeper so unlucky with injuries, martin ferguson (fergies)brother rated him the best young prospect he had seen.
Posted by Bald Eagle
Monday 26th of November 2012 22:52:18
Gents, re last post about football tattoo. Always go to a reputable place, do not go to the same place as ex Aston Villa forward John Carew. He got 'Ma Vie, Mes Régles' on the left side of his neck, which was supposed to read ' My life, My rules '. But either through the tattooist's spelling mistake or because Carew can't spell properly, the Norwegian giant has been left with a phrase that suggests he has regular periods. The error is on the word 'règlès', which - when written this way - means 'rules'. But : 'Ma Vie, Mes Régles' means 'My life, My menstruation' Régles' is direct translation of the word for 'period' or 'menstruation'. His tattoo reads ' My life, My period. ' Oops. Explain that to your Mrs.
Posted by anon
Monday 26th of November 2012 22:15:03
repost tattoo....YFT
Posted by Hotlips
Monday 26th of November 2012 21:01:20
What do Rutherglen men talking about between football ?
Posted by the Fernhill Fonz
Monday 26th of November 2012 20:39:42
I am going to ask the wife to get me a football tattoo for Christmas: “ Burgh Cup winner 1968 “. It doesn’t get much better than that. Every player on this list should have a tattoo - What would your tattoo say ?
Posted by anonymous
Monday 26th of November 2012 19:52:28
Good comment posted under the Jim Kerr profile: Jim came from Cathkin and played for Dundee United. Jimmy Kerr was a wonderful player, Jim McLean saw him and signed him to the 10 year mad contract that only Jim McLean could tear up. Jimmy wouldn't move to within the 10 mile rim of Tannadice. His passing was immense and the reading of the game. We have 7 witnesses of a bet that no one could hit a crossbar 3 times in a row from outside the 18 yard box. Jimmy done it 9 times in a row. very modest fellow but a great lad. Richard Gough said he couldn't understand why he never went on to better things. Didn't drink or rarely...My 21st he had a 1/2 pint shandy, fitness nut, btw, that's not him in the picture.
Posted by anonymous
Monday 26th of November 2012 19:51:07
Good comment posted under Martin Leggat profile : " Just heard about site,played with Martin a lot in is early years,especially at Croftfoot United were we played with a European Cup winner , Frankie Gray. Bob McKirdy who ran the team always said he was the bravest little keeper he had ever seen.Jimmy Fitzpatrick had told Bob McKirdy that signing the wee man would help them win, it did we won the league and 2 cups.
Posted by 1970s Kitman
Monday 26th of November 2012 17:49:20
Talking about the Odeon and Rio picture houses. Heard a story from the late 70s in which it was rumoured tha Big Jim Wylie was ejected from the Rio for smuggling a giant box of sweeties into the back row of the cinema and half way through Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid proceeded to throw the sweeties at the screen while singing at the top of his voice 'Mo Jos keep falling on my head ' does anyone know if this a true story !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Cambuslang
Monday 26th of November 2012 04:33:14
Not a mention of Jimmy Kerr? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Kerr_(footballer)
Posted by Laird o Stonelaw
Sunday 25th of November 2012 13:00:14
Great story in the Rutherglen Reformer this week about Joe McCabe ( who is on the Rutherglens Greatest player list ). Lots of readers of this site will know him and see him about the Main Street. Joe has lived every day in Rutherlen since he was born 70 years ago. He is also well know for his Elvis impersonations and donations to charity. Joe was a friend of Bobby Murdoch as school boys. It is often quoted that it was Joe who taught Bobby how to pass a ball. In the Reformer story Joe also remembers that there used to several cinemas around the town: Grand Central, the Rio, the Odeon, Greens, (which were all on the Main Street), and the Rhul in Burnside and the State in Kings Park. I must admit the only ones I remember were the the Rio and the Odeon. We used to go to the Saturday morning Club and watch a film, then out in the afternoon to play football. I also know of one reader of this website who met his wife to be in the winchin seats at the back of the Odeon. Happy Days
Posted by GAB
Sunday 25th of November 2012 00:47:52
Played against some bad losers over the years especially with Fernhill.We were going to play Lochside just outside Inveraray.That day we had a bus load of supporters with us and before the day was out one in particular would stand out from the rest.We arrived at the pitch as they were clearing the last of the sheep off and to make matters worse the referee was the local minister who did not like to see the locals lose.No matter how much silky football we played we were either offside or committing a foul.After a change of tactics in other words shooting from distance we took control of the game.The best bit was each time we scored Naisy who had come to the game straight from a night out on the Friday ran on to the pitch in his good suit and hugged everyone of us he was covered in mud never laughed so much during a game before.Later that night we were given a police escort out of Inveraray as the hotel had had enough of us and our money.Similar thing happened when we knocked Inverkip out the cup away they would not even give us the after match hospitality and we were barred from the pubs good times or what.
Posted by Trent
Saturday 24th of November 2012 14:11:29
I was down the Main Street this morning. The Christmas Lights are being switched on in the Main Street later. Good atmosphere and lots of fun fairs and Christmas songs blasting out across the burgh. But I saw an ex local pub football star standing outside the Charity shop next to the Bingo hall. He was holding three empty Farm Food plastic polly bags in one hand and a cold Pot Noddle in the other. He now has a big overgrown moustache and looked like a Swedish pimp with his black pair of jeans with red stripes down the sides and his light blue suede shoes. For the life of me I cannot remember his name. But I think he was a star of the Vogue team in the 80’s.
Posted by Scally Wag
Saturday 24th of November 2012 13:57:41
Some great colour photographs in the Rutherglen Reformer this week. A number of local teams played in the annual Bobby Murdoch Memorial Cup. The event raised 1,650 pounds for the Kilbryde Hospice. Well done to the 70 players who played in the tournament.
Posted by Doc Gorman
Saturday 24th of November 2012 11:31:11
Football in Ruggie is all about opinions. Did these come from anyone that you know ? 1.“ Second place in the Burgh Cup is a complete failure. It"s like you are chatting up a girl and she says you are second in her affections because she prefers someone else.". 2. “ It is better to win 10 times 1-0 than win once 10-0." - 3. "If God had wanted us to play football in the clouds, he'd have put grass up there". 4. "Players lose you games, not tactics. There's so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes in the Vogue.” 5. “ Listen, son, football is a simple game. The guy in goal tries to stop the ball going in the net. The defenders try and stop them having a shot. The guys in the middle get the ball, and pass it up to you. When you have the ball, you try and put in the net, if you can't, you give it to the other fella, who will try and score." . 6. "What's the ball made of? Leather, right? And where does leather come from? From cows. And what do cows eat? Grass. Then for God's sake don't lift the ball from the grass!" – 7. "My forwards need only to run for 15 yards, unless they're stupid or are sleeping.". 8. "Everybody knows how to play football if you leave them 5 yards of space". 8. Sweet mother of Jesus, how am I supposed to describe that? The goal of the tournament so far by Dixie. and quite possibly the greatest goal that's ever been scored in Rutherglen. . Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Ping. Wylie, Lloyd, Browney, Benzo, Dixie, .. goal!" . - 9. Football is played with the head. After all, the ball is much faster than legs. – 10. If Frank Sinatra was THE voice then Dixie was THE dribbler
Posted by zander WYLIE
Saturday 24th of November 2012 00:01:19
Hi ....my names zander..i have no friends..i have no humour i have no job..i have no money...i sit in night after night and tune into ruglens greatest...im such a sad individual that zander isnt even my real name...all i say is ..this site saved my sanity...thankyou to all involved...its a fantastic life saver..for myself
Posted by Super Sub
Wednesday 21st of November 2012 20:33:29
I seen an advert in a magazine today for Goalie Gloves. Cost is Sixty quid. In my plucky youth goalies never wore sticky gloves to grip the ball in the cold and wet. It was bare hands and battered squinty fingers: every Goalie broke or dislocated a finger at some stage of their career: just shoved it back into place, stuck a band aid around it, and played on. Many a time I stood as a sub at the side of the park at Fernhill in the winter and looked across the Glasgow skyline and seen the big black snow clouds like the end of the world coming our way. The goalie would still no be wearing gloves, no matter how cold it got. Diving about in the red ash and Tennents ring pulls, the Goalies really are the Heroes of any team. Years ago it used to be said that some professional goalies used to go to bed wearing their gloves. I cannae see Danny Houston or Henry Carr doing that - can you ?
Posted by GAB
Monday 19th of November 2012 19:41:19
Would like to point out that the team Fernhill beat that night in the final was in fact Clydesmill and not Clydebridge could have swore I had written that not sure whats worse my brain or my eyes also comments below spot on that was the first night I ever met Shugs mother one terrific person to know
Posted by Luke Bac
Sunday 18th of November 2012 20:59:43
What a night that was with Fernhill in the final mentioned below the pitch was totally surrounded that night Clydebridge never stood a chance the crowd were awesome that game but one fan stood out more than anyone else big Shuggie Dolans maw Shirley (Mrs Fernhill)best supporter a team could ask for nice one Shirl girl 10 out of 10.
Posted by GAB
Thursday 15th of November 2012 22:08:46
Back in the late 70s I had stopped playing for a couple of years one night I went over to watch Fernhill playing Clydebridge in the final of the Landemer cup.They totally destroyed Clydebridge that night and I knew there and then I wanted back playing again I also knew it was not going to be easy to get a game with that Fernhill team with Jamie,Andy,Dixie,Lloydy,Rab,Shuggy and Charlie to name but a few.I remember having to train for about two months just to get match fit and bide my time to get a game.My break finally came when we went to play Giffnock North away we met at the Vogue and off we went.George Yardley was reading out the team and when he came to Rab Bairds name there was no sign of him but his bag was there thats when we remembered he had went into the bookies and we had left without him that was my chance and George gave me a start thanks to Billy Campbell and Andy that day between them they pulled me through that game as the pace had got a lot quicker since I had last played Billy switched with me and I dropped into left back.After that I managed to get a run in the team until I got injured they were one hell of a team to play for and a terrific side all super players.
Posted by Mr.Fernhill
Thursday 15th of November 2012 20:54:07
Jimmy - re your answer to quetion 15 below. 15. In training did you do any tricks with the ball ? Answer. I never played a bad game in the training five a sides. I was particularly good at doing the Johan Cruyff turn. - You are having a laugh big man or smoking too many Jamaican woodbine.
Posted by Big Sam
Thursday 15th of November 2012 20:49:53
Owen Coyle played in the same team ( Bolton) as Rutherglen boy Andy Walker. Here is one of his anecdotes: Andy has the most amazing way of eating cream cakes. He licks all the cream perfectly from the cake then eats the middle – it takes him about twenty minutes.One day at Bolton we were celebrating Alan Thomson’s birthday with cream cakes and the lads decided to fill the middle of Andy’s with a bar of soap. We all sat there waiting for the BIG moment. The cream went, then suddenly Andy’s face turned sour as he bit into the soap.
Posted by Denis the Menace
Thursday 15th of November 2012 20:36:10
At the start of the season as a team building exercise every player was asked to fill in a questionnaire. ( See answers under Jim Wylie profile ). It would be great if every player on this list could respond to thses questions : Thank You Question: 1- What is your favourite film? Question 2. What is you Favourite TV programme ? Question 3. Who would you most like to be trapped in lift with ? Question 4. What is your ambition in football ? Question 5. How do you deal with criticism and your mates in the pub who laught at your team ? Question 6. What is your favourite position ? 7. Favourite pre match meal ? 8. Burger King or Macdonald’s ? 9. What music to play on your ghetto blaster before a game to get you pumped up ? 10. What do you prefer - Sexy football or the headless chicken style of play ? 11. You are going to a Fancy Dress party – what do you dress up as ? 12. What was your greatest tackle? 13. Any advice for young players on how to gain an advantage going into a game?14. What is your favourite football pitch ? 15. In training did you do any tricks with the ball ? 16. What is the most important piece of equipment for a footballer ? 7. When your team gets beat, does it affect you long after the game ? 18. Any bad habits ? 19. Any superstitions or things you do before a game ? 20. Tell us something about you that most people do not know.
Posted by Filo fax
Thursday 15th of November 2012 20:27:44
This website contains NO nudity, NO bad language, and NO scenes of a sexual nature. But it does decribe some late tackles by Jim Wyllie. Readers of a nervous disposition should NOT read his player profile
Posted by Mini Skirt
Thursday 15th of November 2012 20:26:50
Rutherglen Glencairn – what an exotic name. That must be the best name in British football
Posted by GAB
Thursday 15th of November 2012 20:21:33
Regarding best ginger player from Ruggie with all due respect for me its got to be Liam Markie played along side him for a few years with Cathkin United and Hamilton Amateurs he was one tricky winger and super goal scorer between him on one wing and Robert McCallum(Wee Barra) on the other they tormented many defenses over the years
Posted by anon
Thursday 15th of November 2012 15:10:43
john mccarrons nickname (carrots) confused many an opposing team as he had black hair(whats left these days is grey)
Posted by gerry halliwell
Wednesday 14th of November 2012 23:08:14
Best ginger....never played for a team...but wullie laughlin from fernhill was the greatest ginger street player ever:'(vvv
Posted by Old Timer
Tuesday 13th of November 2012 21:42:41
Two great photos loaded onto the Gallery. (a ). The " old" Southcroft Park and (B). The Piggery circa 1903. ( see the Pie and Bovril site for some great old photos )
Posted by Dougie
Tuesday 13th of November 2012 21:19:30
Who is the Greatest ginger hair player from Ruggie ?
Posted by anonymous
Friday 26th of October 2012 11:49:29
Some good comments posted against 3 players: Bernie Grant ( ex Motherwell) , James Reilly ( ex Motherwell) and Martin Kielly ( ex Leeds United boys club ).
Posted by Old Timer
Sunday 21st of October 2012 15:59:04
I was down the Main Street today. I noticed a lot of olde people out for a walk in the autumn sunshine. Lots of the older guys were limping. Probably old sports injuries from their football days when football was a game for men: nobody wore shin guards in the old days. It was a voluntary choice and Shinguards also cost money. Those big heavy cricket pad lumps strapped to your legs just slowed you down and ye olde tackity boots and a late tackle could smash through any leg armour. I have seen a few snapped shinguards in my days. There are a few guys on this list if you played against them it was wise to wear shin guards at the front of your shins, and also another pair at the back of your legs for double safety.
Posted by OG King
Sunday 21st of October 2012 10:07:44
When I was a boy we also played up the close. Street football was good, but when it rained and blowing a gale, then it was up the close to kick the ball. All the good players could dribble in the close.
Posted by the Dux
Saturday 20th of October 2012 09:41:42
Good post about Brian " Dixie " Deans on his page; LOL. He was a good player.
Posted by Genghis McKhan
Saturday 13th of October 2012 17:17:01
Many top footballers when they retire then become involved as managers, trainers or TV pundits. But the great Dutch player, Edgar Davids, took a different route. He went around the world promoting Street Football. He was in HoChi Minh City in Vietnam recently and gave an inteview to www.goal.com - Here is what he said about playing football on the street: “ Street football features all the basics of football: you get a lot of touches on the ball, it is fast, teaches you to think quickly and to be creative. Most of the greatest players have started with playing in the streets: Ronaldinho, Zidane, Pele, Diego [Maradona]... Also, street football is a lot about style, tricks with the ball... A player can develop his own moves and improve quickly. When you play eleven a side, you might go through a game with very few touches, but with street football you're always involved in the game, so it is a great way to improve your skill, and to learn how to create and use space, as the pitch is very small. Street football is great and it can help, because it is opened to everybody and it is very easy: all you need is a ball.” He could be talking about the streets of Rutherglen when I was a boy.
Posted by the Oracle
Saturday 13th of October 2012 09:52:19
I am sure there are still many more names to be added to this list of players. Does anyone know the names of any international players who are missing from this list ?
Posted by Sam Sung
Saturday 13th of October 2012 09:51:35
It is good to see the comments about Bobby Murdoch – he was a football giant. I watched him many times, especially in those big glamorous European games. It is difficult to describe how good he was in the important games: he just always played well. In mud and snow when everyone was slipping and sliding , he would stride around the pitch as if it was a bowling green surface. One of the few legends from Rutherglen. A top footballer and Ruglonian at heart. A big regret for me is that I never stopped and spoke to him when I sen him on the Main Street. I’ve been told that he was a very approachable man who loved to talk football with anyone.
Posted by Fish Supper Specialist
Sunday 07th of October 2012 09:21:44
Re post belown from “ Over the Moon “- Cracking photo. Thanks for posting that one of Rutherglen’s Greatest Player. I have lived in the Burgh all my days and recognise many of the names on the Greatest Players list. Lots of natural footballers on here. Maybe it is just me, but I think today that football has become too dominated by coaches and their tactics. I mean how hard is it to pick a formation of 4-5-1. Not exactly attacking minded is it ? Boring in my opinion. My question is who coaches the coaches ? Also does anyone remember the good old days before Sky TV and going to a “ live “ game on a Saturday afternoon.? The local pitches were alive with good games and and good players and good banter every weekend.
Posted by Desperate Dan
Monday 01st of October 2012 22:01:29
Kenny Campbell played for Liverpool in the early part of the 20th century. He signed for Liverpool in 1911. He played for Rutherglen Glencairn and Cambuslang Rangers. He was a goalkeeper. He also played for a team called Clyde Vale. Does anyone know if this was a Rutherglen team ?
Posted by Don Bevie
Monday 01st of October 2012 21:54:43
This is the story of Jimmy Dunne who came from Rutherglen. He was one of the greatest Leeds United players. See http://www.ozwhitelufc.net.au/greatest_players/80-61.html “ Born Rutherglen 1922, Jimmy was signed in 1947 and soon became a permanent fixture at Right Back, playing 443 games and scoring one goal! So consistent and hardly putting a foot wrong in 11 years of service, it remains a mystery why a player so often tipped for full honours never received an International call. From the beginning of the 1952-53 to the end of 1956-57 he missed one game, being everpresent in the 1955-56 promotion campaign and the first season in top flight. “
Posted by Over the moon
Monday 01st of October 2012 20:22:49
Like the new picture of Rutherglens greatest player a fitting tribute
Posted by King of the Bar Stool
Monday 01st of October 2012 18:33:29
Good comment below from the old Rutherglen Burgher. You can change your woman, you can change your car, you can change your house, but you cannot change your roots. But I got to disagree with his favourite place in Rutherglen: mine is a bar stool in Chapmans watching a good game with a good pint.
Posted by An old Burgher
Monday 01st of October 2012 12:22:50
My favourite place in the whole world was the Overtoun Park on a Saturday afternoon. Football games on every pitch from teams from all over Glasgow here to battle our local teams. It was noisy and exciting. My second favourite place was the Overoun Park on a cold snowy Winters morning and sledging down the hill. You can take the boy out of Rutheglen, but you cant take Rutherglen out of the boy.
Posted by the Rainman
Sunday 30th of September 2012 19:21:15
Guys who post on this site really know their football onions. There has been a number of comments about the best team or the toughest team from Rutherglen, but here is a question for you. Which team was the cleanest team ? Did any team ever go 5 years without getting a player sent off ? ( and do not say it must have been one of the Church League teams because their games were mental sometimes. ) As far the comment below about modern players getting paid too much , I agree. Modern players also call off too easy now with obscure injuries: - I seen a comment recently that a player could not be selecetd because he had a Boil. What is that all aboot ? Can you imagine going to your manager years ago and telling him about your boils ? Your team mates would slaughter you too. Also agree with the comment about too many cameras at games today: when I was growing up it was Arthur Montford and Scotsport and one shaky camera ( black and white ). If it was a midweek edition , I was sometiems allowd to stay up and watch a game then the wee dot on the screen when the transmission finished and listen to the National antheme. ( For youunger readers of this site, The National antheme was played every night ).
Posted by Laird of Blairbeth
Sunday 30th of September 2012 09:29:14
I have watched football in Rutherglen for over half a century. Football binds the community together. It is difficult to say who the best team has been, but maybe the Rutherglen Glencairn Juniors in 1967. They were good and attracted big crowds to Southcroft. It was good to see the Black and White on the Main Street as locals walked around to the game. There was not a lot do do in those days if you did not play football. No computers or 24 x 7 football on the telly. If you did play you either stayed in and watched your mother make soup, or listened to the whistling kettle. At night you would go to bed and dream of playing for The Glens. But football has changed nowadays : you never miss a goal now because you go for a pee – now there are 20 cameras at every game and you miss nothing and you can analyse things to death. Nowadays young professional players earn more in a week that we would earn in a lifetime.If you are earning 50,000 pounds a week no wonder you lose sight of the real world. Imagine if you were a butcher, baker, candlestick maker, brickie, sparky, or labourer and you earned that money in a week. What would happen ? Anyways, I still love hearing good stories about players from Ruggie who do well. I wonder who the next superstar is going to be ? It is Sunday morning and I am offski now for a Full Scottish heart attack on a plate Breakfast. – I wonder if there is any football on the telly later today.
Posted by GAB
Friday 28th of September 2012 21:40:49
Have to agree with Dixie remember those thursday nights well training at Bankhead primary with that super Fernhill team.Harry Renaud could have trained all night long one super fit guy for his age he must have trained different Fernhill teams on and off over at least a 15 year period definetely a contender for best trainer from Rutherglen.
Posted by the Bone Polisher
Friday 28th of September 2012 20:44:45
The Fernhill Villa ( aka the Barcelona of Rutherglen ) were a good team, but not in the same league as the great Avoca team of the late 1960’s. They went several years undefeated at the Overtoun Park. They were also the hardest team I have ever seen. Did you ever see that fight between Franny Lee ( Derby County ) and Norman Hunter ( Leeds United. ) on www.youtube.com ? Well, that was a normal Saturday afternoon game for Avoca. They were tough, but what a team.
Posted by philpp
Friday 28th of September 2012 12:07:29
Lots of great comments about blasts from the past...but theres one team whom i dont think get enough pats on the back as they should...FERNHILLL VILLA......constant winners of league titles and without doubt one of the great teams of the 80sss nn 90sss...i personaly think they would have given most of the teams mentiojed on this site a good run for their money....whatdo yous all think
Posted by Bryl Creem
Thursday 27th of September 2012 21:19:49
Good comment below about guy who was still training at 60 years old. The oldest footballer I knew about was Stanley Matthews. He was still jinking his way down the wing when he was nearly 50 years old. OK he is an exception to the rule, but that is some going. I wonder who is the oldest player from Rutherglen ?
Posted by The Roadrunner
Thursday 27th of September 2012 20:48:17
Re last comment about The Braes: most guys on this list have been stung at least once in The Braes. Long pre-season training runs on a hot wet night and you were under constant attack from wasps, midgies, and flying things with long wings that sooked blood. Happy Days. I miss that, hard but great. You don’t realise how fit you are until you stop playing the Beautiful Game.
Posted by Dixie
Thursday 27th of September 2012 17:30:51
Harry Renaud was a fantastic coach, he used to take a class at Bankhead Primary every Thursday night during the 80s. Everybody had great respect for Harry,he was old school,nobody would think of talking back to him. I think he must have worn out about a dozen dogs running them around Cathkin Braes every weekend. Was as fit as a fiddle well into his 60s could run the legs of guys half his age.
Posted by GAB
Monday 24th of September 2012 20:27:36
Bronco post below brings back memories of myself and Shuggie Dolan going to see the clyde on a saturday if our game with Fernhill was cancelled we would pop in for a couple of pints on the way down to shawfield and if clyde were playing away Shuggie would drag me to Parkhead to see Celtic the only problem was on my three visits to Parkhead Celtic lost all three 1-0 and I was told bluntly not to come back when some of the fans found out I supported Rangers(cheers for that Shug) it was all good patter at first but after the third defeat deadly serious so we then turned to following clyde away alas no drinking as I was driving good times
Posted by Roy of the Rovers
Sunday 23rd of September 2012 20:10:30
The lives of many Ruglonians revolve around football. Most footballers on this list have been lucky enough to play in a good team at some point in their career. What is the best team you ever played in ? Or were you even luckier and played in a GREAT team
Posted by Bronco
Sunday 23rd of September 2012 20:01:47
I see in the Rutherglen Reformer this week ( September 2012 ) that it looks like the Clyde are coming back to play in Rutherglen. They may be ground sharing with the Glencairn. That will be brilliant for the town if it happens. I remember walking down the Glasgow Rd ( in the fog ) many times to watch the Clyde years ago before they moved away. The Clyde used to be a great team with some great players. Maybe the best was Archie Robertson who was also the manager in the 1970’s. Archie was a really skilful footballer and played for Scotland in the 1950’s. His passing and shooting were superb. As a manager he was so professional and ahead of his time. He would spend hours coaching youngsters and giving advice. Archie was a clever man. ( he was a chemist with the Coal Board and then I think he was a teacher in East Kilbride ) . He thought up match situations, dead ball moves, patterns of play, and devised training routines. He was a dead ball specialist . A free kick taken by Archie was just like having a penalty. He was more deadly than Beckham although he didn’t bend the ball, just hit it like a bullet. He always encouraged a passing game. Archie went down for a coaching course in the 1960’s at the English FA’s Coaching School in Lillieshall. Walter Winterbottom was Head of the Coaching school then. He had been the England manager before Alf Ramsey took over. As for the coaching, it is said that Archie was actually better than the Lilleshall coaches. They were very happy when Archie ended up telling them things and making his own points. He also used to tie them in knots with his convoluted ‘what if’ questions on the laws of the game. Archie was manager at Clyde for a number of years, but tragically he fell ill in the 1970’s and died at a young age. He was a gentleman and never needed to curse and swear at players. He was a man ahead of his time, and the best trainer of a Rutherglen football team.
Posted by Burnie Stats Man
Saturday 22nd of September 2012 20:52:12
Would like to point out that the players name missing from the Cathkin United photo in the blue strip from 1970s in the photo gallery is Martin McGrath(not sure if he was related to Gerry) also regards to question below about trainers from ruggie a name that has cropped up a few times over the months from comments below is Harry Renaud who trained the Fernhill teams over the years surely he must be a contender anyone out there agree.
Posted by charlie murphy
Saturday 22nd of September 2012 20:51:16
Great wee footballer
Posted by lenny
Thursday 20th of September 2012 20:52:45
who was ruggies greatest trainer...???
Posted by Cato
Thursday 20th of September 2012 19:39:05
Good to see Big Gordon Brown received 57 votes. Top player. Had the attitude of an Argentinian player – pick a fight with the toughest guy in the other team and show him who is going to boss the game. Bit of an entrepreneur away from football: in the 1970’s it was said Ernie was the faster Milkman in the West: but Big Gordon was the fastest milkboy. You want to have seen him deliver milk on a freezing cold Rutherglen winter morning before heading off to school. I might be wrong but I think he also had a paper round after school. Finished his two jobs and then went to the fitba training and gave 100% effort. The good old days: you were not considered a good player then unless you keep a tennis ball up 25 times without it touching the ground . Nae bother to the big yin.
Posted by Th Fish Man
Monday 17th of September 2012 18:45:56
Bobby Murdoch was the best player from Rutherglen. When he was at Celtic and if he missed a game every other player had to work twice as hard to make up for it. He was a genuine number 4 wing half: helped in defence and next minute driving up in attack. He played in the right manner, never complaining, but hard: he knew it was a mans game. Loved football and loved Rutherglen
Posted by gus
Monday 17th of September 2012 18:44:50
It is a long way from the Burnhill to Barcelona. Well done Steve Archibald. When he was younger he was not a forward: he could play midfield or defence. I wonder who taught him how to score goals ? He also seemed to fill out when he played with the Clyde: he was skinny but started to muscle up. I seem to recall the Clyde had a fitness fanatic manager named Stan Anderson: he used to work with big Jock Wallace at Rangers before going to Shawfield. Maybe he brought his tough training regime to Steve.
Posted by Old John
Monday 17th of September 2012 18:44:03
Rutherglen was a working class place. Everyone knew everyone else when I grew up. We were all in the same boat. I never saw a roll of toilet paper until I was about 16 years old. Football was the thing we all did. Team numbers could be 15 a side. You chopped and changed if the game was too one sided. Lots of goals and games usually finished about 21-19. But there was always someone in the street team who would argue that it was still 20-20 and the last shot at goal when over the jacket and not between the posts. Every team had a moaner who did not like to get beat.
Posted by Burnside Geisha
Saturday 15th of September 2012 11:12:35
Do not talk to me about Rutherglen men and football. It is the only time I ever see him emmotional is when he is talking about football over his Guinness belly. I used to think that men from Rutherglen only have three feelings Hungry, Horny, Tired: in that order. I was wrong – football rules their world. Being a professional footballer nowadays is a ticket to ride and and print loadofmoney. I heard someone on telly say recently that she is always disappointed in every footballer she meets. I suppose some men are meant to drive Ferraris and others to drive a Ford Focus. Heho thats life. Anyways, the old man is going down to the Main Street to watch the football today on telly. I better go and get the Focus out of the garage.
Posted by Clugger
Saturday 15th of September 2012 09:50:35
Re the last comment posted : there has been lots of hard players from Rutherglen. My dad played with the Regent Star juveniles just after World War Two. I have seen a photo of the boots they used to wear: no way would you like to be tackled in a 50/50 challenge by someone wearing those steel toe capped leg breakers. I think the local derby game in Rutherglen in those days was the Regents Star v Rutherglen Waverley. Can any older readers of this site confirm please ? In those days you were not a man unless you could extract your own teeth without anaesthetic.
Posted by Clugger
Saturday 15th of September 2012 08:41:57
Nice to see Alan Forsyth got so many votes. He was a genuinely hard player. It hurt if you kicked him.
Posted by Clugger
Saturday 15th of September 2012 08:37:47
Furthest place I went to play football was Blackpool to play in a tournament in the early 1970’s. I still remember on the last day we were all skint. We were walking along the promenade at Blackpool sea front to go to the train station to get the train back home to Glasgow when a number of Police Cars came speeding along like something out of The Sweeney and stopped us. We were all taken to the local police station and questioned. Some of the boys had been on a shop lifting spree and had pinched some stuff for the journey home. Some got summoned to appear in court. You know who you are. HAPPY DAYS. Also know of a team from Rutherglen who went down to Blackpool on a Friday night in the back of a White Transit van: there was no seats for the team so they went out and pinched a few seats from the number 46 bus. Threw them into the back of the transit for a luxury trip south. I seem to recall the van driver did not have a licence: when the van arrived in Blackpool he could not park it betweeen two motors: someone from the back of the van was woken up to park the van. Happy carefree days.
Posted by Desperate Housewife
Saturday 15th of September 2012 08:19:02
I agree with Angie Babe’s comments. “ Living the Dream “ for my man was playing in a Sunday morning pub match in the wind and rain at the Glasgow Green. He is over the hill now, carrying a few extra stones in weight and his fitba boots are lost in the back of the glory hole, but I think he still misses the addiction and atmosphere of the football dressing room . But in his younger days he took the fitba too seriously: he once wanted to slaughter a goat in the centre circle of the local park before a game to change the run of bad luck his pub team was having. It didnae work. Sadly he never achieved his one great fitba ambition which was to score a goal in a cup Final at Southcroft. But now and again after a few beers he has flashbacks and will talk about someone famous that he once kicked on a Sunday morning.
Posted by A.Ruglonian
Friday 14th of September 2012 09:00:22
In Hartlepool football fans are being invited to help shape a lasting tribute to some of Hartlepool’s all-time favourite players. They are being asked to vote for their own particular favourite from the shortlist of 20 - and the intention is to name streets on a new housing development after the top six selections. I think that is a grand idea and we should do the same in the Royal Burgh. I would like to propose that we re-name the Rutherglen Main Street to the Steve Archibald Boulevard. Thank You.
Posted by Angie Babe
Friday 14th of September 2012 08:46:47
Thank God it is Friday. It has been a long time since I had a look at the website. I also thought football was taken too seriously by the menfolks of Rutherglen. My old man always got upset when his team lost or when he listened to some eejit on the radio whose opinion he thought was pants and he would shout and bawl and curse at the radio. OK he is a bit of an anti athlete nowadays but he still talks a good game. His level of aggression is zero until he talks football with his mates. What is that all about ? I used to enjoy standing in the rain watching him play down the Overtoun Park. In those days everyone played for fun. Nowadays you read and hear more about footballers priapic tendencies than their football skills. Sill enjoy the game if you plan to watch some football this weekend in the Royal Burgh.
Posted by SHIFTY
Thursday 13th of September 2012 20:54:33
when i was young...football was not my thing..i was more into dolls and prams..let me make this clear ..i am a near 50 year old male..and when your young in rutherglen and into dolls and prams its hard to make your way in life..at the age of 8 i decided to try my hand at footy..my father often asked why dont you go out for a game of football with the local lads..my reply was always..im too tired ..but secretly i was playing with dolls in my room...or reading the jackie..as i said at 8years i went for it..and to my suprise i was pretty good..my first team was a local boys club..i played centre half ..1st season i scored 15 goals..same 2nd season..as the seasons rolled the goals kept going in..at 12 i moved to the local boys guild..where i became the most prolific goal scorer the boys guild league has ever seen..at 15 for christmas i got a pair of adidas gunter netzer football boots ...under 16sss goals goals goals..at 17 i decided to grow my hair long and also started drinking...18 and 19 were a blurr...but at 21 i came back faster fitter and full of confidence....i played with the local amateur team ...dont want to blow my cover but the name of the team started with a D.....the next 5 years were fantastic ..i got married had a family and invented a smoke alarm..yes a smoke alarm...still the goals rolled....i finished my career with the same amateur team ..i now spend my time passing on football tips to youngsters in the burgh..if you dedicate yourself to something you love youll always come good..thanks for giving me this vehicle to pass on my unbelieveable experience
Posted by marion smith
Tuesday 11th of September 2012 20:52:52
more chance of getting a lumberjack.....................
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 11th of September 2012 20:16:44
I received an email recently from someone who used to live in Rutherglen. ( now lives further up the North East ). He recognised some old school mates from a photo on the Gallery. Played for Spittal then Bankhead, Gallowflat then Stonelaw. He was a reserve in the 1966 cup final. The reason he remembers this game so much is because the manager/teacher never brought him on, even when his team was 2-0 down. So he got on his bike and circled round the pitch in a bad mood ! He also remembers Rutherglen being the hardest place in Scotland to get a lumber.
Posted by he he he he ...
Sunday 09th of September 2012 23:27:34
my everlasting memory of football is when i nearly won the football pools...my next door neighbour won it
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 09th of September 2012 19:07:31
Reading recent texts about Frank Daly and Terry Heaney, do you remember the real Quality Street gang? Eddie McGhee or Billy Cassidy in goal, Brian Hannah Frankie Kelly Martin Gilligan Brian Mulhollaran Tubby Hardin Bobby Murdoch Frankie Cannon Jim Murphy Pat O,Rourke.....remember wee Ned McKeown the referee
Posted by Owen Goal
Sunday 09th of September 2012 16:23:05
For the first time in years I was up in Fernhill this morning. Can’t believe the difference in the place. There was a game going on where the BIG football pitch used to be. There was shouting and cheering and mothers and fathers encouraging the teams. The football was fast and furious and end to end. Everyone was giving100% effort. It was a ladies under 13 game. I seen more effort in that game that in the Scotland game against Serbia yesterday. Mr.Levein should pay a visit to the Fernhill pitch see what enthusiasm can do and not playing with fear. Don’t know about you but when I was watching the Scotland game yesterday I was thinking I have seen lots of better players who never made the grade that some that were on the Hampden pitch.
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 09th of September 2012 11:32:43
Re post below about trial with Arsenal: he ended up in the Scrubs prison in London. The prison had to send a telegram ( not many telephones in those days ) to the players father to get the ten shillings to pay his fine before he was released.
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 09th of September 2012 09:04:05
I was in Chapmans yesterday after the Scotland game. I was speaking to one of the regulars who as a boy played with the Hibs. Usually stands at the bar under the big telly. He was telling me that his Dad went down to London for a trial with the great Arsenal in the 1930’s . This was around the time of the Depression. Unfortunately he decided to nick a motor. ( there was not a lot of cars on the streets in those days ). Got fined ten shillings. Another great football career was over before it started.
Posted by manny kaltz
Sunday 09th of September 2012 08:46:35
im gonny be in a book...im so excited
Posted by Burnie Stats Man
Saturday 08th of September 2012 21:29:28
Strangest thing I remember growing up in Fernhill before moving to Burnside was back round about the late 60s.From every monday to saturday the Fernhill team or Wifty as they are now known would fight with the Castlemilk Tay and probably knocked 7 bells out of each other but come a sunday the Tay would come over and play Fernhill on the big pitch usually without any trouble and it was normally about 15 to 20 a side a bit like during the war when the Germans and British would call a truce at new year and play football against each other except the local derby was more frequent really wierd.
Posted by Rab B Burnes
Saturday 08th of September 2012 11:48:13
It is Saturday morning and World Cup day and Scotland are playing Serbia at Hampden later today. The Rutherglen Main Street is busy already with the Tartan Army arriving in buses from all parts of the country for the gemme. The Kilties ( hairy men and women ) bring some colour to the town and us locals love it. I seen a bus stopping outside Harley’s Bar as the troops march up for a pre match beer and sing song. I am sure I seen Miss World got aff a bus from Edinburgh; six feet tall, blonde, wearing a Scotland jersey and tartan mini skirt and knee length boots. Probably the best looking supporter heading to Hampden. Every Scot is looking forward to a good game today and next stop is Rio 2014.
Posted by Billy Payne
Saturday 08th of September 2012 09:27:13
Greatest player I ever seen live ? That is easy. Craigie Speirs ( followed by Johan Cruyff ).
Posted by George Escobar
Saturday 08th of September 2012 09:24:39
Stumbled upon this website while waiting for a plane in Tan Son Nhat International airport in Ho Chi Minh city. Recognise lots of players names. My main memory is my Dad getting tickets for the Real Madrid Vs Eintracht European Cup Final at Hampden in 1960. Puskas, De Stefano , Gento, Santamario and other great players. 135,000 in Hampden that night ( including half of Ruggy ). And the referee for probably the greatest football game ever played was a man from Rutherglen – Jack Mowat
Posted by Andy Bovril
Saturday 08th of September 2012 09:23:46
Just seen last week’s Rutherglen Reformer and the story about this website. Also the new book about the players from Rutherglen. Cracking picture/painting on the front cover of the boys playing football on the Main Street outside Chapmans. Anyone know where you can get a copy of the painting ?
Posted by GAB
Thursday 06th of September 2012 20:06:00
Back in the mid 70s the best night of the week was without doubt a sunday in the Burnside Hotel virtually everyone from the area would flock to the bar after all doing their own thing all weekend wether it was playing football or going to a match or all going to their different pubs or clubs on a saturday .Sunday night was catch up to see what everyone had got up to telling their own stories wether they were true or not. Just such great nights back then and probably plenty of hangovers on a monday at work.
Posted by RH
Thursday 06th of September 2012 19:19:00
I was speaking to a distant relative of Peter Roney recently. ( see player profile on this site ). I think Peter came from the Farme Cross area of Rutherglen. He was born in 1897. He was one of the first goalkeepers score a goal netting in the1909-10 season from the penalty spot against Queens Park Rangers. Anyways, on his return from the First World War his feet were badly damaged as a result of having spent so much time in the trenches, a condition called Trench Foot. But on his return to the UK he apparently made a ONE match comeback. This confirmed that he was unfit to continue his football career, but worse still he was then deprived of any entitlement to a War Pension. It was tough times after World War One and no income.
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 04th of September 2012 19:21:10
Relating to burgh cup : I played for St.Marks in 1989 final at Southcroft which we beat Calderwood 6-2 and year before we lost Greenan Shield final at Fernhill to St.Anthonys.
Posted by RH
Sunday 02nd of September 2012 09:25:40
I was talking to someone in Chapmans yesterday, who went to school and played in same team as Bobby Murdoch in the early 1950’s. He told me that as a school boy Bobby always played with his shirt outside his shorts. He was copying Bobby Evans ,who was one of his football heroes
Posted by TJ Sunday
Saturday 01st of September 2012 12:41:29
Terrific post recently about Alan Forsythe. See full details under his player profile. Alan finished second to Bobby Murdoch in the voting to find the Greatest Player from Rutherglen. He was a top player. Once you played against him you never forgot it.
Posted by The Dribbler
Tuesday 28th of August 2012 18:45:43
Nice to see that John Bennett received 71 votes. Every team needs a playmaker, but in our team Benzo was The Pacemaker. His main role was to tell the referee that the defensive wall was not back the full ten yards when we got a free kick. He could moan more than Joey Barton. But a fine footballer. P.S. Also liked the post today about Jim Wylie.
Posted by GAB
Monday 27th of August 2012 19:08:26
When you see all the great facilities for training nowadays it made me think back to when Fernhill Athletic started back in the late sixties and we used to train over the pitches especially in the winter nights in the pitch black you would have Harry Renaud putting you through lung bursting sessions on the red ash and some nights anyone who had a car would switch on their headlights so you could have a game at the end of training and then in for a shower in the new pavilion absolute luxury back then changed days indeed.
Posted by Burnie Stats Man
Sunday 26th of August 2012 20:42:16
Sunday pub football the good old days remember in the 70s all the players from the Burnside Hotel and the Cathkin Hotel would get picked up on the back of a Perrats milk float(after a few pints of course)and taken to the games so much for health and safety and insurance back then care free days.
Posted by GAB
Friday 24th of August 2012 21:47:15
Back in 1972 went to play a cup final against St Judes with Cathkin United.It was played in a school across the road from a pub called The El Paso in Barlanark. On their side of the pitch was at least a couple of dozen guys from the pub all sitting on the touch line drinking the good old english wine as one of our players Stuart Keenan was running by with the ball one of them stuck out a foot and tripped him Stuart rolled over jumped up and hooked the first guy he seen and all hell broke loose the ref threatened toaward the cup to us if there was any more trouble fortunetly the rain came on and they all went back to the pub up to that point the game was locked at 1-1 we then went on to win 6-1 received the cup jumped in the mini bus without getting changed and headed straight back to cathkin.Just so releived to get out of there in one piece.
Posted by Football Grandfather
Saturday 18th of August 2012 07:42:00
Ruglonians being Ruglonians always enjoyed themselves in the ways they knew best: Wine, Women, Song, Bookies and The Fitba. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion: it could be a lot worse.
Posted by lemon Drop Kid
Saturday 18th of August 2012 07:30:52
When I was a boy Rutherglen was surrounded by greenery, farms, real sheep and cows. I was not very good at football, but if we were playing in the school play ground and the ball ended up on the roof, I was always the one who climbed up the drainpipe to get it back. I could climb like Johnny Ramensky. ( many of the young readers of this site may not know this name: he had been on more roofs than a Fiddler. Infamous name in the 1930’s. Once blew up the safe in the bank on Ruggie Main Street ).
Posted by Marco Demarco
Saturday 18th of August 2012 07:16:07
Rutherglen is football daft. The young men from this area who signed professional could have formed a full First Division side, plus subs. How many others places in Scotland could do something like that ?
Posted by The Bushman
Monday 13th of August 2012 19:12:41
The 2012 Olympics are just finished and Usain Bolt is the fastest man on the Planet over 100 metres. But could he beat Carrots McCarron in his prime over 5 yards inside the 18 yard box ? It would be close. Carrots was a razor sharp goal scorer when he wanted to be. He once got booked by the referee for ungentlemanly conduct i.e. running too fast. He was like a whippet. Not sure if Carrots is still kicking a ball nowadays. Maybe he should get back in training and challenge Big Usain at the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow in a few years
Posted by GAB
Wednesday 08th of August 2012 08:13:33
When you watch the olympics and see how a home crowd can help you win against the odds at times reminded me of a game I played with Rutherglen Academy in the schools scottish cup back in season 69/70 against Holy Cross of Hamilton.They had beaten us 4-3 (going on double that )in a friendly at overtoun they were one really good side. We drew them in the 1st round of the cup at overtoun on a wednesday afternoon.Our teacher Mr Harwood asked the headmaster to let the school out early.The pitch was surrounded by pupils which gave us the inspiration we needed to go on and win by an almighty 8-0 they were absolutely shell shocked.I think it was the only time I played on a winning side against Tommy McGuire who was one hell of a player.
Posted by Adonis Smith
Friday 03rd of August 2012 07:01:49
There are some players who are instantly recognized by one name only: Pele, Jinky, Lawman, Baxter, Henrik. In Rutherglen we also have a number of players who are immediately known by one name: Carrots, Fyffie, Benzo, Bernie, and Lloydy. You must be a good player to have only one name.
Posted by The Bookies Runner
Monday 23rd of July 2012 16:43:14
I liked the line on this website home page : “ We all know someone who should have been a great player, but got lost along the way to Wine, Women, Song, or the Bookies. “ How true is that. In the 1950’s the Church of Scotland described the Football Pools as the “ Great Social Evil “. I like a punt myself now and then on the fiba coupon. I once picked did a mugs beat and picked 15 teams to win and got 14 correct. I was waiting for Clydebank to hit the jackpot. But they drew 3-3 with a last minute equaliser. I might be wrong and my memory might be playing tricks on me, but I think it was a centre forward on this list who missed a few sitters that day and burst my coupon. Mr.Lloyd owes me a few quid ! I also read a quote further down this website about the greyhound dog races at Shawfield, Carntyne and the White City. My old man likes to punt a silver threepenny on a Saturday night and more than once he walked up from Shawfield skint. I also think he used to go to the White City, but I have no idea what part of Glasgow that is in. But if he lost his wages he always brought a Peace Offering for my Mother : a box of Terry’s All Gold Chocolates or Jellied Fruit candy sweets. It always worked. I must try that the next time I disappoint my Mrs.
Posted by Auld Hawkie
Saturday 21st of July 2012 13:50:36
One of my memories is the excitement of getting a new ball. Johnny’s shop in Gallowflat Street had a good selection of plastic balls hanging from the ceiling. A World Cup ball was the best birthday present ever. I even washed it to keep it clean. Never went as far as sleeping with it, but I am sure some players on this list have went to bed wearing their favourite team shirt.
Posted by Joe Abramovitch
Tuesday 17th of July 2012 20:18:34
Reading some of the stories/memories on this website it mentions quite a few things about street football. In Scotland there is a site called www.streetsoccerscotland.org - The founder is a guy called David Duke. It is worth a look at the work he is doing. It is amazing what the power of football can do to help people who need a bit of help.
Posted by Chico
Saturday 14th of July 2012 09:08:13
Most guys on this list will still have some of the black ash from the Overtoun Park under the skin of their knees. There was a creek that ran diagonally across the Overtoun Park up in the corner pitch next to Stonelaw Rd. Gravel and ash was some combination. Many a time I stood on the bus going home even although there were seats free, a rash burn from my ankle to my arse that would scab over just in time for the next week when I prayed that the manager would play me at left half instead of right half so I could tackle with my left leg first and not open up the sores. The top of the thigh was red raw for a week and your troosers would stick to it. And who can forget the morning after Guy Fawkes night and a smouldering bonfire on the centre circle of the pitch. If you went for a ball in the ash it was not a scab that you ended up with, but a third degree burn. Playing around a bonfire was a skill for all Rutherglen’s Greatest Players.
Posted by Doc
Sunday 08th of July 2012 11:14:54
best footballer from Rutherglen: that is easy. Bobby Murdoch. End of.
Posted by Rusty
Sunday 08th of July 2012 11:14:02
I always though one of the characters from Rutherglen was Joe Aitchison. He lived around the McCallum Avenue area. Even when he was in his 70’s Joe used to go for a walk along the Main Street: always smartly dressed and always wearing a bow tie and black soft hat. He used to tip his hat when passing a lady. A real gentleman, but tough. Joe used to help some local football clubs with their training. He was also a legendary boxing coach in his younger days and attended World title fights. In the late 1960's he had boxing club down the Dalmarnock Road. All these years later I still remember some of his exercises from his football training in the gym. Footballers might think they are fit, but not compared to boxers. If you don’t agree, then go down to Eastfield ( in the estate behind the round about ) and do a fitness training session in the Archie Durie Gym. It will cost only a few quid. It will be tougher than the hardest football training session you have ever experienced.
Posted by A Ruglonian
Sunday 08th of July 2012 10:53:03
Looking back 50 plus years I grew up in a place where I knew not only my neighbours but almost everyone in the street, and loads of people in the scheme. Today most people do not know the names of people who stay 3 or 4 doors from them. Back then everyone ( boys and girls ) was known for something: being tough: being smart at school: being into music: having long hair: being first to smoke a cigarette: being funny: being last to wear short trousers: being cool: having a girl friend ( or boy friend) : liking to party: being fearless going down hill on a sledge: being first to drink beer: swearing like a trooper: supporting a favourite team: being a gambler: being artistic: being able to make money: being a nuisance: being a redhead : dogging school: leading a party on an apple tree raid: being a milkboy: Everyone was known for being or doing something. But maybe the best thing was to be known for being a good footballer. Looking down this list of Rutherglen’s footballers there are some cracking names here. Being a good player sticks with your whole life in our community.
Posted by Auldheid
Saturday 07th of July 2012 08:07:18
I was reading recently about guided walking tours by students around the historical sites of the Royal Burgh. Ruggie is a potential hot spot for visitors. From the leafy lanes and greenery of Bamknkead, the beautiful architecture on the Main Street ( including the Mercat Cross monument ), the library building, St.Columbkilles building, the Kirk port next to statue of Dr.Gorman, the War memorial, the Vogue, the stunning view of Glasgow from the crossing at Mill Street, the history of King Street, the details on the Chapmans building, the stunning architecture around the face of the big Town Hall Clock, the gems around Farme Cross, the miners cottages, the shopping Arcade, the Overtoun Park, Stonelaw Rd, Hamilton Road, Clincarthill, Croftfoot, Burnhill, Shawfield, Burnside, High Crosshill, Blairbeth, High Burnside, Springhall, Cathkin, Spittal and Fernhill, all have their own story, appeal and characters. When I was growing up there was football pitches everywhere. There were two pitches at Dukes Road, Morriston had three grass pitches, the Welfare park, the two across from the Sun Inn, two at Cathkin High, two at Loch Primary, three at the Cambuslang public park, the pitch at the back of Whitlawburn, pitches at Fernhill, Newton and the Circuit, Overtoun, Blairbeth, Spittal, Castlemilk. And more that I have probably forgotten about. If you went on a walking tour around Rutherglen today, how many grass pitches would you see ? It is sad in this day and age when we are trying to encourage kids to be more active rather than sitting in the house playing computer games. But I still love Rutherglen. Wish I was still fit enough to kick a ball rather than being an armchair spectator and critic. In my head I could be a better player than Messi, Ronaldo, and Iniesta. I think I need another drink. Live The Dream if you can still kick a ball on a Saturday morning. There is nothing quite like a good tough game: you might be knackered at the end of the game, but it feels great.
Posted by Sports Guy
Thursday 05th of July 2012 19:19:15
Recognise lots of names on here. Good to see lots of local footballers Live The Dream and play for their favourite local team.
Posted by WWW
Saturday 30th of June 2012 18:02:39
I was having a look through this website and seen a few comments about the Cathkin Braes. What a place! In 1941 (during World War Two) it was the radio men up on the Braes who picked a strange broadcast from Berlin that Hitler’s right hand man Rudolf Hess had gone missing. A few hours later and the aeroplane that Hess was in crashed over near Eaglesham. It was one of the biggest stories of the War in Scotland. Hess was captured ended up being taken to the Maryhill Barracks. The Braes are some place with amazing views over all of Glasgow: when I was a wean we played a lot of football up there in the summer. If I ever win the EuroMillions lottery then I am going to build a house up on the top plateau. Even in the winter when it was snowing we played football and the ball got bigger and bigger as it gathered the deep snow. Brilliant days. The only problem was the wasps: there was nests everywhere and if you were unlucky to disturb them, you were in trouble. Also sometimes we did a pre season training run up the hills : the only problems was dog walkers. Every player got chased at one time or another: it was no help when the owner shouted that his Big Black Dug called Bob “ was only playing and will not bite you ”. Very funny when a hundred weight of a dug on heat has you pinned against a tree with slabbers, Mad eyes and an erection ( the dug that is ). The only answer was to kick it in the bollocks. I have not been up the Braes in years: I wonder if football teams still train up there and if it is still crowded by dog walkers. ?
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 18:01:56
On 01 April 1876, Stonelaw were playing Thornhill ( from Blantyre ). The game was played at Gallowflat and Stonelaw won 3-1. A good crowd watched the game. In February of 1876 the Reformer also reported a story about the Publicans v the Teetotallers.
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 18:01:16
On 22 April 1876 Clydebank ( Rutherglen ) were playing Albert ( Queens Park ). Clydebank won 4-0. Goals were scored by Gardener ( 2 ), McLean and Graham. ( Graham shot the ball under the tape for the fourth goal: no crossbars in those days.). the best Rutherglen players appear to be Gilchrist, Brown and Gardner
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 18:00:28
In May 1876 Rutherglen was famous for its coal, famous for its fair, famous for its curds and creams, but was becoming infamous for the number of Shebeens. A stranger to Rutherglen would have been amazed at the number: the loose characters of Rutherglen would often visit these dens of iniquity. It is amazing so many good footballers came from the Burgh when there was so much temptation available. Have you ever been to a Shebeen ?
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:59:47
On13 January 1877 Clydebank were away to Cathcart. It ended in a 0-0 draw. Cathcart played five members of surrounding senior clubs. Their excuse was that their own members would not turn out to play on such a bad day ! This is also the week when there was a Lunatic at large on the Rutherglen Main Street. He was running about the streets naked on a cold January day. The local doctor, R.A.Mackechnie declared him to be insane and he was put into the Gartnavel Asylum
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:59:02
On 20 January 1877 Stonelaw had a home game against Lennox from Dumbarton. The game kicked of at 3.30 pm. The teams agreed to play for just 1 hour. It ended 0-0 draw
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:57:57
10 February 1877: Clydebank beat Ingram last week at Queens Park. Today they play the Glasgow 2nd East End team at the Glasgow Green
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:44:13
At the end of February 1877 the Stonelaw Smokers played the Non Smokers, at the High Crosshill pitch. The game was abandoned 20 minutes from the end due to strong Wind and heavy Rain. The score was 1-1. The next Clydebank game is next Saturday at the field next to the Burnside Lodge
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:41:32
On 03 March 1877 Clydebank beat the Stonelaw Second team 1-0 in a game played at Dalmarnock Bridge. Several hundred people watched the game. Clydebank played downhill in the first half. A hand ball was claimed by the Clydebank players, but the Stonelaw umpire disallowed it. Ten minutes from the end Clydebank scored. A fight/dispute started about the goal, but the Clydebank umpire gave the goal. The Stonelaw players refused to play on and left the field
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:40:43
On 10 March 1877 the Stonelaw Second team played Hamilton at Mr.Love’s field in Burnside. It was one of the best games of the season. In the first half Stonelaw played downhill. In the match report in the Reformer, the away team are called “ The Strangers “. Stonelaw won 3-2. The other Rutherglen team, Clydebank were playing that day against Warwick on the ground of Queens Park. Clydebank only had 9 men, but the game ended in a draw 0-0. The Reformer also reported on that date that Robert Kerr, a cab driver was found guilty of being the worse for drink while in charge of a horse and cab on Friday night in the Rutherglen Main Street. He was found guilty at the Burgh Court and ordered to pat 2 shillings or 30 days in jail. There was also a “ square go “ that night on Stonelaw Road. Joe Lochrie, a mason, and Donald McDermid, a tailor, fought and this attracted a big crowd to watch and shout encouragement. Both ended up in the Burgh court and ordered to pay 30 shillings or 14 days in the jail. Finally, there was also an assault by W.Brechette , a goldbeater, on two men in a pub on the Main Street. Sounds like an old typical night in Rutherglen: go to the football, then back to the pub for a few beers, and have a scrap before going home.
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:39:50
On 17 February 1877 the Stonelaw Second team were away to Mount Vernon. Several hundred spectators watched the game played on Mr.Gemmell’s fields. Spectators moved from one field to another to watch the most attractive teams. The game ended in a 1-1 draw. The Stonelaw team was: Guthrie ( goalkeepers: full backs were Wallace ( captain ) and Shearer: the half backs were Whitson and Bennie: the forwards were Ross, Johnstone, Andrews, Hunter, Wallace, and Stewart. ( 6 forwards ! ). At the end of the match report in the Rutherglen Reformer, it reports: Colours: smokers, white: Non-Smoker, blue. Does anyone know what this means ?
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:39:05
On 17 February 1877 Stonelaw had a home game against The Wanderers. Their home park was High Crosshill. There was a good turnout of spectators. Stonelaw won 2-1. Does anyone know where this pitch was in Rutherglen ?
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:38:24
On 24 Feb 1977 the Reformer newspaper reported that a game was scheduled today between Clydebank ( from Rutherglen ) and the Warwick Club. The game was being played on the pitch at the Dalmarnock Bridge. It also reported that on New Years Day 1877 Clydebank played St.John’s from Hamilton and got beat 3-1. Does anyone know anything about the Warwick team, and where exactly the park was at Dalmarnock Bridge ?
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:37:29
On 22 February 1877, the Stonelaw Football Club held their first conversations and ball social night in the Rutherglen Town Hall. A number of gentlemen were in attendance including Provost Scouler, Baillie Hamilton, The Pinkerton Councillors, and the Town Clerk. The club secretary, Mr.Perry , gave his football report. The Provost then told the young ladies present that the gentlemen of the team were honourable and smart young men. He then congratulated the Stonelaw Football team on their first Annual Ball. Does any of the older readers of this website know anything more about this football club ?
Posted by A Rutherglener
Saturday 30th of June 2012 17:36:43
The local newspaper – Rutherglen Reformer – started in 1872. It used to be called “ The Rutherglen Reformer and Cambuslang Journal.“ The first football report it in that I could see was on 19 February 1876. 136 years ago ! There was a report on a game between Clydebank ( who were a Rutherglen team ) and a team from Glasgow . The game was played at the Glasgow Green and it was a draw. I wonderful if anyone on the Rutherglen’s Greatest Player list had a relative or family member in that team ?
Posted by Harry
Monday 25th of June 2012 06:37:19
Re the last comment about Learning football from your Dad: people have been sitting around Camp Fires for years telling stories under the stars. ( who can forget the Blazing Saddles scene ). Nowadays guys in Rutherglen sit around the pub table swapping yarns and tall football tales about their prowess on the pitch. When I was growing up everyone, the maw, the paw, and all the weans, sat around the kitchen dinner table every tea time. According to experts this is supposed to strengthen the family relationships, personally and socially. Never happened at our table. It usually ended in a fight over something serious like who was getting the last potato, or my Dad telling one of my sisters why they could not get a mini skirt. HAPPY DAYS. Anyways, for any football nuts, there is a good book called “ Fathers, Sons, and Football
Posted by Noddy
Sunday 24th of June 2012 11:54:56
My Dad used to go down the Main Street every Friday night for a few pints: I think he used to go to the Wallace Bar. When the pubs closed ( about 10 o’clock in those days ) he would then bring a carry oot up the road and sit until the wee sma hours drinking, and talking and singing to the latest hits on the old record player. Elvis and Frank Sinatra got laldy. Sometime the neighbours would come in for a wee half. My Dad used to talk a lot about football: some of the great names he talked about were European players, Alfred di Stefano ( Real Madrid ), Nándor Hidegkuti ( Hungary ), Ferenc Puskas ( Real Madrid and Hungary ), Josef Masopust ( Czechoslovakia ), Francisco Gento ( Spain ). This is how I learned about football: listening to my Dad. There was no internet or multi media in those days. You listened to other peoples stories. I’ve been watching the European Championship games on telly over the last few weeks and the best player I have seen is Bastian Schweinsteiger of Germany. What a player. He would have walked into any Rutherglen team. I also like watching the Spanish team: they can pass the ball about 1,000 times in a game - amazing. The teams I played with in Rutherglen never passed it that many times in my whole career. The Spanish also have loads of pint sized players. They would all have qualified to play in the Rutherglen Midgets team. ( see earlier posts on this site : the Midgets played in the early 1900’s ).
Posted by The Lemon Drop Kid
Sunday 24th of June 2012 10:53:18
I liked the comments about Brian Deans ( see players list). “ He could strike a penalty like Diana Ross ( similar to the spectacular miss at the opening ceremony of the 1994 World Cup in America.). “ Not sure if that is true, but I have seen a few bad penalties in my time. Also liked the comments about going to Desi Diver’s the barber for a haircut to change Luck during a goal drought. Most players are superstitious
Posted by TJ
Sunday 24th of June 2012 07:47:05
Fewer towns in Scotland can have more football stories than Rutherglen. Lots of colourful stories on this site. Everyone knows about Bobby Murdoch, or Steve Archiebald, or Andy Walker, but is also good to know the names of many other local footballers. As far as I can see this site is now not about Voting, but about stories. The site is only a baby and has only been going for several months, and I wonder how many more Surprising things about local football have still to be told ? I must admit I like to hear about the older players: is there any local historians can tell us what football was like before electricity and TV had reached all parts of Rutherglen ? There was time when there was no TV football and you had to go to a live local game if you were a football fan. A day at the football was a great way to spend the weekend. Finally, many think Andy Cameron was the best Comedian to come out of Rutherglen. I’m not so sure when you read some of the stuff on here. Keep posting your Rutherglen football memories.
Posted by Bacardi John
Saturday 23rd of June 2012 11:45:16
Worst sports injury was one training night when a Bawheid put a mixture of winter green and itching powder in my under pants. It took me a few minutes to realise what was happening after I got dressed. I had ginger nuts for weeks. The wife was not happy. I wasn’t so chuffed myself and driving my van at work was a bit of a nightmare. Thas over 30 years ago and one of these days I will find out the name of the prankster. A bit of a ribbing your mates, some banter, cutting up each others’ socks, hiding each others’ clothes, that is all OK, and it happens in loads of team dressing rooms. But powder in the pants crosses the line. I could have been seriously damaged for life.
Posted by Mongo
Saturday 23rd of June 2012 09:37:39
Re post about unusual injuries, here a few comments: Slipping on a bar of soap in the showers at the Fernhill Park dressing after a game happened a few times and that could cause a torn groin or a black and blue bruised cocyy : the famous incident when Sir Alex Ferguson threw a boot at David Beckam in the dressing room that hit him above the eye , I know a few guys on the Rutherglens Greatest players list who had a temper and chucking a boot a team mate in a moment of anger was OK: hit on the head with a Biriyani on a team bonding night out in the curry shop on the Main Street: the player who had a blood blister beneath the nail on his big toe, and he took the only sensible course of action. Went to his tool bag for his Black & Decker, and drilled straight through the nail, in order to drain the blister. It worked as well, until he picked up a blood infection: the famous Paul Gascoigne incident when he played in Italy. He went out for a meal with his wife and pointed to a fish in the big tank that he wanted for dinner. The waiter did not understand, so Gazza in his best white suit dived head first into the tank and got his fish. There used to be a fish tank in the Peking Palace Chinese restaurant up at Cathkin and I wonder if any of Rutherglen’s finest footballers ever did a Gazza ?
Posted by yerauld..DA
Friday 22nd of June 2012 20:41:57
on the subject of brainiest footballer,,i put forward myself....as a pupil at trinity high i wasnt very well known for being the smartest..PE was more my thing....in my first year i sat my maths test and got 2 out of 80..exact same result in 2nd year..3rd year the powers that be decided to bring in multiple choice...bing bang boof yer auld da gets 72 out of 80..ive done not 2 bad since i left school ive got my own car, house and i can still do 40 press ups at 50.....
Posted by The Barman
Friday 22nd of June 2012 20:03:15
Who is the Brainiest footballer on this list ? Maybe Hugh Rooney. The big man could pass any exam without studying. I remember when he first came to live in Rutherglen from Dundee. He was about 11 years old. Even then he had a beard and moustache. He could never get a child’s fare on the bus: the conductor never believed him. He was a good footballer and I think I am right in saying he went to Morton as a teenager. Last I heard he was teaching at Herriot Watt University. The weirdest thing I know about football “ brains “ was the story of the great Brazilian player Garrincha. ( many reckoned he was better than Pele ). In the 1950’s Brazil launched a system of IQ and psychological profiling for potential World Cup squad players. He failed both. But he was such an amazing dribbler of a football he was picked. He went on to star as Brazil won the World Cup and 1958 and 1962. Maybe one of the brainiest players I seen on a Rutherglen football pitch was Craigie Speirs. He was a genius with a ball at his feet.
Posted by Over the Moon
Friday 22nd of June 2012 19:40:46
Anyone got any good tales of unusual “sports “ injuries? The strangest one I heard was when a Rangers player, Kirk Broadfoot, had to be treated in hospital for facial injuries – caused by an egg. He was poaching an egg in his microwave for his breakfast on the morning of a game and it exploded and scalded him. There were also a rumour about a local Ruggie goalkeeper who sustained a head injury after bumping into a “mind your head” sign in the Odeon cinema on the Main Street ( or was it the Rio Picture House ?). I bet we all know somebody on this list who got his foot tangled in a goal net as he tried to get the ball out of the net and tweaked an ankle. And most older players on this list would have had a splitting headache after heading a soaken leather ball that was like concrete. But probably the worst injury I have ever heard was on the 1930’s on the famous English player Dixie Deans. He lost a testicle in a crunching tackle when just 17 years old. Now I love football, but nothing is worth that. There was also the famous “ Nutter with the Putter “ incident when Craig Bellamy allegedly whacked team mate John Arne Riise with a golf club after a training ground spat. Why would you take a Golf Club to training ? Finally, most of us have experienced a bit of frost bite or Hypothermia in out football careers, especially if you played at the Fernhill pitches on a freezing cold rainy windy day
Posted by frank h
Friday 22nd of June 2012 15:28:18
I well remember Frank Daly His son. Tommy was my best man.Tommy died about 3 years ago. Frank"s son ,John ran the Avoca football team. Remember Terry Heaney, a teacher at thr Killes. He along with Frank Daly put a lot of time and effort into the school team.
Posted by Sports Nut
Wednesday 20th of June 2012 17:04:50
I think the last 3 posts on this site are brilliant. Well done to whoever posted them. Fantastic stuff. I enjoyed reading them. Thanks . ( any more memories ? ).
Posted by crowsus
Wednesday 20th of June 2012 13:25:59
2 more things, just while I remember (apologies for hogging) to answer a question posed a wee bit down, I dont know them presonally but I'm pretty sure the Young brothers are from Whitlawburn, so not technically Rutherglen but as good as. Sure they would have played for a few youth teams in the Burgh (Cathkin Utd being one I think). Other thing was to put in a wee shout for my mate's dad John Thomas, not sure where he was born but I know the family have lived in Ruggy for 30 years and his wife is from Fernhill so I'm sure many of the folk on this site will know him well. John was on the books at Sheff Utd and played for a number of Junior sides, seem to recall him mentioning Possil YM and Shettleston, maybe not Rutherglen's greatest ever but worth a mention I would say!
Posted by crowsus
Wednesday 20th of June 2012 05:30:03
As for the best players, obviously Bobby Murdoch is a class apart, followed by Archibald. My XI (as if anyone cares) would be H.Carr, S.Saunders, C.Jackson, H.Haddock, S.Stewart, A.Trouten, Billy Murdoch, Bobby Murdoch, S.Donnelly, A.Walker, S.Archibald. Subs: N.Carr, A.Forsyth, I.Macdonald, J.McMenemy, W.Divers, J.Reilly, B.Harvey. Since we have mentioned at least one girl, can I put a wee shout in for Amy McDonald who went to my school. Led Stonelaw to Scottish Schools Cup Final, think it was the semi I saw in person, she was playing centre-half but scored a cracker from about 30 yards (albeit tiny girl goalie). I believe she currently plays for Glasgow City now (Scottish Champions) and has 30-odd caps for Scotland. Can’t seem to vote for anyone at the moment tho, is it closed temporarily or finished??
Posted by crowsus
Wednesday 20th of June 2012 04:42:01
Haha this is a cool wee site, surprised I haven't come across it before. Fantastic volume of comments! Great to see so many older folk with great memories of football in Rutherglen back in the day. It is definitely something that young folk should be encouraged (forced?) to do as it is great for fitness and friendship and distracts from gang culture and so on. My own footballing memories in the Burgh are recent, many in number but very unglamorous, the high point was probably being in the Burnside Primary team that beat a Fernhill XI in their gala day 1995. Scored once at those parks in 4 games I played there, first touch coming on as sub, but it made the score 1-7 against Burgh and they got a couple more. So by comparison the silly gala day becomes a cherished memory! Also only played at old Toryglen parks once in Stonelaw trials in 1st year, a lot of eye-opening experiences at that point in my life and I mind the pavilion there as being one of them! I vaguely recall the Overtoun ash parks as a wean but they were built on when I started playing. Played on the grass at Overtoun countless times including often with Alan Trouten and his brother (you could see Alan was a good player but I didn’t think he’d make it pro, well done to him), great to meet folk from other parts of the town there although it could get dangerous! And of course there were epic playground games at Stonelaw High, first at ‘The Annex’ (Gallowflat building, which had a games court painted onto the playground in a non-symmetrical way! Why bother?!) and then in the new building in Eastfield, which has 3 sides closed in by high walls and made for a great intense game. A few skilful players there, Rab Davidson played occasionally but I think he avoided it as he was already on a Pro Youth at Rangers and didn’t want it jeopardised by an injury at school. If he had started at a less impossible club he could have made the jump to pro. A few of his pals were decent too, lots of parks to practice down the Scheme, I think that’s why there have been a good few players from there down the years. As for me, despite devoting a large chunk of my life to kicking a ball I was never any good, so for me as well it’s just some nice childhood memories, like the time there was too much dog shit at the Doggy Walk so we attempted a game in the grass of the polis station at the end of King Street, that didn’t last too long; scoring with a curling effort in the last minute for 113 Cubs in the championships at Cambie Rugby Club; risking the wrath of local busybodies playing between cars at the end of Douglas Ave in Burnside for some reason, even tho the same boys always went round to the school playground every other time for 50 occasions; and lastly a bizarre time up at the Loch fields (where I never got 1 minute on the park, including friendlies, as an 8-year-old ‘playing’ for Cathkin Utd, what the fcuk!) where me and my pal who was a goalie had a sponsored shoot-n-save for charity and I just hit shots at him non-stop for about 4 hours in the pishing rain, no nets but his dad adjudicating and going bellboy! Weird memories but there you go. Still play 7s at new Toryglen, fantastic place but a bit dear and like a sauna inside at times, not enough of those parks with the climate we have here. Got to love Ruggy!
Posted by Bacardi John
Saturday 16th of June 2012 17:49:18
Scotland’s first ever football star was R.S.McColl. He would have been in Rutherglen’s Greatest team, but unfortunately he was born outside the Burgh Boundaries. He used to live in Prospect Hill ( near Hampden ) in those flats that overlook Glasgow. He was known as Bob McColl and his nickname was “ Toffee Bob “. He was born in 1876 and played for Queens Park as an amateur, just when football was starting to become popular in Scotland. He also played for Rangers, and also played 13 games for Scotland scoring 13 goals. In 1900 he scored a hat trick when Scotland beat Wales 6-0 in Wrexham, and a few weeks later he scored another hat trick when Scotland beat Ireland 9-1 at Celtic Park. The following season he scored another hat trick when Scotland beat England 4-1 at Celtic Park. He was one of the first superstars in British football. This was in the days when the top players got paid 2 pounds a week. Along with his brother Tom he also started a chain of sweetshops, which eventually were in towns across Scotland, England and Northern Ireland. Does anyone remember the R.S.McColl shop on the Rutherglen Main Street? I don’t remember it but some one told me it was across from the Rutherglen Library.
Posted by The Spearmint Chewing Gum Kid
Saturday 16th of June 2012 13:44:07
I might get shot down in flames for saying this, but one of the worst football strips, in my opinion, was the black and white of the Rutherglen Glencairn. I always thought it looked untidy and a nightmare with those long sleevs and cuffs turned up. But maybe the worst strip in history was the Scotland international team around the turn of the century (1900 ). The colours were primrose and pink ! They were the racing colours of Lord Rosebery who was the patron of the Scottish Football Association at the time. I don’t remember many teams playing around the pitches of Rutherglen wearing pink. It might have been difficult to get eleven guys on the park wearing that. I also remember about 10 years ago the Camaroon international team wanting to wear a new All-In-One snazzy red and green Bodysuit in the African Cup of Nations. But FIFA, Sepp Blatter, stopped it by saying “ The rules are very clear, there is one shirt, one shorts and one socks." What do you think, would you have played in a Bodysuit? Any other local teams have a fashion disaster by their choice of strip ?
Posted by The Macaroon Bar Kid
Saturday 16th of June 2012 13:18:52
Re comment below about the Team Bath. Every guy on this list who played junior or senior football before the 1970’s would know about the team bath. Most clubs had a big stone bath. If you were last in after a game on a wet day, nae luck. By that time the water was murky and stuff floating everywhere. It was no bubbling jacuzzi, although sometimes it felt like it was. The most famous photograph of a Team Bath was probably in the early 1970’s. Crystal Palace manager Malcolm Allison invited Penthouse model Fiona Richmond to join the lads in the big team bath . The images are on WWW.YOUTUBE.COM, but you need to be 18 years old or over to view it. I don’t remember any of my managers inviting a Penthouse model ( or Bunny Girl ) for team bonding when I was playing in the Rutherglen district
Posted by Erchie
Saturday 16th of June 2012 09:08:13
Re treating injuries. The only treatment when I played was the hot and cold water treatment. There is probably not a player on this list who had not had first degree burn at some time. You put the hot towel on and then the cold one: it was the main treatment. Or you put your injured part into a basin of hot and cold water. Even if you had a boil on your backside, the trainer would still advise hot and cold. I also remember some of the old players telling me that they used to have to stand naked in the room where the old big team bath used to be ( remember those ? - no showers in those days ), and the old physio would fire cold water at you ankle or knee from a high pressure hose. Cannot imagine that happening to million pound players today
Posted by Erchie
Saturday 16th of June 2012 09:02:19
Just having a read through this website. I like the comment by Rambo Murphy on 12 May. “ Did you ever play in a game when you were running up the wing and you hear panting behind you , and then the fat linesman who ran like Forrest Gump runs bye you ? “ - I seem to remember that when I first started watching professional football in the 1960’s there was only one linesman on each side of the park and they ran up and down the whole length of the pitch . ( nowadays a linesman only runs to the half way line ). Does anyone else remember that or is my memory playing tricks in me ?
Posted by william pettigrew
Friday 15th of June 2012 22:18:11
my names willie pettigrew and i think i know jim....im never off the waltzers....i once had a trial for bayern munich,, if you dont believe me ,,i dont care
Posted by rita simpson
Thursday 14th of June 2012 22:15:21
re-post knitted strip...i can confirm the strip was made and the rain did pour...but multi coloured swap shop. .im sure ended in the early 80ss....could someone maybe contact the wylie family to find out....last i heard they were living in motherwell,,,and jim was working on the waltzers in strathclyde park
Posted by Huggy tomlinson
Tuesday 12th of June 2012 23:27:35
Hi folks havnt posted 4 a while.....just a wee quick 1....can anyone confirm if jim wylies mother knitted a full football kit for an ageing dalmarnock side in the mid 90sss...they only wore it once in a cup semi final...and were winning 3_0 @ HT when it started raining ....in the 2nd half they lost 6_3....the full strip was returned to jims mother whom eventually turned the full kit into a starsky nn hutch cardigan which she sold on multi coloured swap shop...is this true
Posted by Mr.Rutherglen
Sunday 10th of June 2012 08:17:44
Recently a group of children were told they face anti-social behaviour orders ( ASBO) for playing football in the street. Outraged parents accused the council officials ( in a town in England ) of over-reacting. The Council's anti-social behaviour co-ordinator, said: "Football is fun but you have to balance that up. We wouldn't want people not to be playing football, but we need to do it in an appropriate place ". The UK has the highest rate of child obesity rate in history and we are telling kids they can't even play in the street. I can just imagine a council official telling my old old man that we could not play football in the streets of Rutherglen when I was growing up , and that he would be fined a hundred quid. Maybe I am just getting old and grumpy, but this is nuts. I don’t see how street football poses a a danger to the public. Jumpers for goalposts are now classed as obstructions in the politically correct world. I think we would have been robbed of something special as kids if we were not allowed to play football in our streets.
Posted by Jimmy
Sunday 10th of June 2012 08:16:57
Brilliant post below about how the school janitor treated football injuries. I have never heard of that method. I remember the magic sponge that the trainers in the football teams used to use. A touch of cramp? Leg broken in six places ? Shoulder hinging off. No problem, the magic sponge would fix it. Ice cold dirty brown water was the answer. ( sometimes when filling their sponge bag before a game the trainer ran the hot water tap by mistake: not only were you injured but you were scolded and had a burn mark for life ). I was watching the Eurpean Championships last night and on-field injuries are now dealt with by physiotherapists carrying Gucci bags full of sprays, oils, lotions and all sorts of snake skin potions. One quick squirt of something and the player is on his feet again. The old-fashioned way of a trainer running on to Fernhill park and throwing a wet sponge in your face, worked just fine also. Never done me any harm. I also remember the smelling salts being the panacea for every injury, even a kick on the ankle. You never had much option if you wanted the salts or not, the trainer just stuck it under your nose and told you to inhale. The other thing that I remember to keep players fit was the black bin liner fad: overweight players used to wear them at training or sat in the sauna at the Rutherglen Baths in Greenhill street to lose a few pounds. It didnae work.
Posted by Jim
Saturday 09th of June 2012 21:38:33
I saw mention on here about Frank Daly and also about how things were different when we were kids. I went to St Marks when Frank Daly was there, his treatment for any cuts and grazes resulting from playtime was always the same, a quick wipe with some iodine then he used to burn a bit of paper and sprinkle the resulting ash on the cut/graze, always worked a treat. I was on that football team with Bobby Harvey, Ian McGuigan and Tommy McGuire and I reckon we all had the "ash" treatment at one time or another.
Posted by TizerAndAmericanCreamSoda
Saturday 09th of June 2012 17:40:50
New photos uploaded. St. Killie team before 1977 Landemer cup final against Spittal at Ferhill. Also, Trinity team who played 1977-1981. There are a barrowload of cups in the picture but can't remember which ones ... not that they gave me a medal after 4 years of carrying the tizer!
Posted by The Beer Man
Saturday 09th of June 2012 13:11:38
I was down the Rutherglen Main Street this morning. It is Landemer Day here in the town. The Main Street is closed to traffic and all types of stalls are lined up along the street. Home baking, books, charity, face painting, etc etc. Near the Vogue Bar was a stall called the “ Super Shot”. It was 3 holes cut out in cardboard and you paid a quid to have 3 shoots with a plastic ball and shoot it from about 8 yards aiming down the hole. You could win a prize ( cuddly toy, etc ). Now this is really meant for weans to have some football fun. But oh now. One of the mature players on the Rutherglen’s Greatest players list was trying to re-live former glories and he had 3 shots – all missed. Can you guess who ? Here are some clues, (a) He would start a fight with his own shadow. (b). No stranger to a red card. (c), In his prime could not pass a ball 10 yards. (d). Talks a good game
Posted by Football Junkie
Friday 08th of June 2012 19:08:23
No football games to watch for 2 weeks since the season ended. It is summertime and hellish. But good news: - The European Football Championship starts today in Poland. Yahoo. I hope the games are full of fire and brimstone with lots of goal mouth action and not all square passes and back passes. Also a player born in Rutherglen is playing in his first major international tournament. I hope he plays well.
Posted by JA
Wednesday 06th of June 2012 18:10:37
Re past posts about the Burgh Cup.I remember playing in the 1965 final for Cathkin Primary against St Marks.I was meant to be playing up front but was so scared of losing I hardly crossed the half way line.St Marks had a brilliant team at the time with the likes of Harvey,Bennet and McGuigan in their ranks,so I wasn't letting them out of my sight.I remember the relief when we went 2-0 up but I was still staying put.We eventually ran out 3-0 winners and it felt great to have one of those treasured medals.I still have it 47 years later.
Posted by Rip Van Winkle
Wednesday 06th of June 2012 17:38:30
Back in the sixties while I was at Gallowflat school I used to have a milk delivery round in the morning.In the summer monthes you had to get up at the crack of dawn on a Saturday and work an extra day because not every body had a fridge then to keep their milk fresh over the weekend.The first time I tried to combine this with a game for the school team followed by a match in the afternoon it was a bit of a nightmare.I got through the first game alright but during the second I was feeling a bit woozy I was so knackerd.As the ball swung over from the right wing I attempted a flying header but missed the ball completely.As I flew through the air over the goal line the ball came back of the inside of the post and wacked me on the side of the head.As I lay crumpled at the back of the goal everything suddenly went black.The next thing I know there's a load of people standing over me looking very concerned,'Are you alright son'they kept saying,can you play on,are you badly injured.That was a cracking goal you scored.I right it was a pure fluke and I knew it but I wasn't telling them that and I definitely wasn't letting on I had actually fallen asleep.
Posted by Rabbie Byrnes
Tuesday 05th of June 2012 08:18:10
One of my football memories about football in Rutherglen was the annual trip every second year to London for the game against England at Wembley. Guys would save up for months to be able to afford it. Buses left from pubs, clubs, and works around the Burgh on the Friday morning ( or even the Thursday night) . In those days you could drink alcohol on the bus. Everybody had a carry oot for the journey south. But many times the bus had to stop in Hamilton for a pee break, or to stock up with more beer. ( it depended on the bus driver: some of them were cantankerous old buggers who would not stop the bus.) That is when the cans came in handy. The hotel was usually in the centre of London around the Soho area. ( of course the wives did not know that before authorising the trip for her man.) Japanese tourists were astounded to see this invasion from the singing hoards from Scotland with red beards and kilts. I think they thought this was normal behaviour for Scotsmen as they took a photograph of the kilties dancing in the fountain at Piccadilly Circus. The Japanese were also amazed to see Tennents Lager being poured into the corn flake bowl at breakfast time rather than milk. Lager and flakes is an ideal healthy start to the day. Every football guy from Rutherglen will have his own memories of the Wembley trip. Maybe you know the guy who dug up the Centre Spot in 1977 and walked proudly out of the Stadium with it on top of his head. This souvenir had pride of place on his Living Room fireplace for years. Or maybe you remember the game in 1981 when Scotland won 1-0 when John Robertson scored a penalty. It was a boy from Rutherglen who was fouled to win that penalty. ( Steve Archibald was the player ). It is a long way from playing up the Overtoun Park with your mates to playing at Wembley stadium.
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 03rd of June 2012 22:06:13
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Posted by anonymous
Sunday 03rd of June 2012 20:05:31
An unusual photo loaded onto the Photo Gallery on this site. Rutherglens Greatest player, Bobby Murdoch, wearing the number 8 shirt of Scotland. This was taken on 21 October 1967. Scoland were playing Northern Ireland at Windsor Park, Belfast. The teams were : Scotland: R Simpson, T Gemmell, E McCreadie, J Greig(C), R McKinnon, I Ure, W Wallace, B Murdoch, J McCalliog, D Law, W Morgan. Northern Ireland: P Jennings, W McKeag, J Parke, A Stewart, T Neill, D Clements, W Campbell, J Crossan, D Dougan, J Nicholson, G Best. Northern Ireland won 1-0 with Clements scoring the goal. See http://www.scotlandfootballstats.co.uk
Posted by Bacardi John
Saturday 02nd of June 2012 21:13:31
I see some of the last few Posts on this site have refereed to the Queens Jubilee and the early 1950’s. The best footballer in the world at that time was the Hungarian player Ferenc Puskas. My Dad used to talk a lot about him and tell me what a great player he was. All left peg and scored goals for fun. He once scored a hat trick in the European Cup Final at Hampden Park for Real Madrid. He was better than Lionel Messi apparently. Puskas was once asked what was the difference between the “star “ player and the “ ordinary “ player. He said, “ Too often the ordinary players stops after he has made his pass. He seems to think it is up to the man to whom he has passed to get on with the work. The star, on the other hand, doesn’t think so much about making the pass as about where to run in order to get the ball back. “ Which is probably the real secret of football. They made the ball do the work, used it. Unlike lots of other players who want to run with the ball until they lose it or are knackered. Not sure if Rutherglen has ever produced anyone as good as Puskas, but maybe the best left footed player was Danny Burke. Now he could play. ( played for the great Avoca team when they played at the Overtoun Park ). Still see him wandering about the Main Street. p.s. Maybe someone should give the advice of Puskas to the Scotland manager Craig Levein.
Posted by Angie
Saturday 02nd of June 2012 18:44:26
Here’s some thoughts about the Queens Jubilee: sorry chaps nothing to do with football here in Rutherglen, but I hope you can remember some of this stuff: 60 years is a long time ! My Mum used to cut chicken, chop eggs and spread butter on the same cutting board with the same knife and no bleach, but we didn't seem to get food poisoning.Our school sandwiches were wrapped in a brown paper bag, not in ice pack coolers, but I can't remember getting e.Coli. Almost all of us would have rather gone swimming in the Clyde instead of a pristine pool (talk about boring). We all took PE, and risked permanent injury with a pair of sandshoes instead of having cross-training athletic shoes with air cushion soles and built in light reflectors. I can't recall any injuries but they must have happened because they tell us how much safer we are now. I can't recall how bored we were without computers, Play Station, Nintendo, X-box or 500 digital TV cable stations. I thought that I was supposed to achieve something before I was allowed to be proud of myself. We played “King of the Mountain ” on piles of gravel left on vacant building sites and when we got hurt, Mum pulled out the bottle of iodine and scrubbed it clean, and then we got our butt spanked. Now it's a trip to the emergency room, followed by a 10 day dose of antibiotics which cost a tenner, and then Mum calls the Lawyer to sue the contractor for leaving a pile of gravel where it was such a threat. To top it off, not a single person I knew had ever been told that they were from a Dysfunctional family. We never needed to get into group therapy and anger management classes. We were obviously so duped by so many societal ills, that we didn't even notice that the entire country wasn't taking Prozac! How did we ever survive? Lots of us remember and shared this era. I WOULDN'T TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING! - Remember that life's most simple pleasures are very often the best.Those WERE the days!!!! HAPPY JUBILEE !!!!
Posted by Rory
Saturday 02nd of June 2012 16:51:40
Good photo recently loaded onto the Photo Gallery on this site. James Bond 007 ( Sean Connery) meets Rutherglens Greatest footballer Bobby Murdoch.
Posted by Angie the WAG
Saturday 02nd of June 2012 08:40:17
Thank God the Football season is finished – I might see my man at the weekend now. I am heading down Tesco soon to stock up for the Jubilee weekend: beer, wine, mini sausage rolls, pork chops, cheese and onion quick slices, good British beef sausages, Beef Wellington , Spam, fireworks, ete etc, My man likes to fine dine with British food. It will be nice to share driving the shopping trolley around the crowded shopping aisles today, rathen than him spending his Saturday afternoons staring up at a TV screen in the pub watching football. If you are up our street, pop inn for a drink. Have a good Jubilee weekend.
Posted by Charlie
Saturday 02nd of June 2012 08:25:21
Re your Post below: back in the early 1950’s a guy was jailed for five years for firing a gun and wounding 2 people. He was being chased by a gang called the Billy Boys from Bridgeton. ( just across the river from Rutherglen ). Every guy on the rutherglensgreatest.com website who played football around Glasgow has most likely been chased. It is a terrifying experience especially if you get caught and get a kicking: it happened to me. Do you remember some of these names: the Tay, Skull, YFT, Baltic Fleet Derry Boys, Drummy, Hutchie Boys, Billy Boys, Shamrock, Cumbie, Calton Tongs ,etc , etc. On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gangs_in_Glasgow it lists all the gangs. The city was divided into North, South and East Glasgow. The East end had the most gangs with 41, followed by South Glasgow with 38 and North Glasgow with 31. The districts with the overall greatest number of gangs were Pollock with 11, Govan with 10 and Drumchapel with 9. The gangs fought over their patches in scheme defending their territories and you were warned by the graffiti sprayed on walls. We all know young guys you could put your hand through the slash in their cheek. Unfortunately wrong place at the wrong time with many innocent people hurt for life. You certaintly did not go into certain areas wearing football colours. There was a minister of the Church in the East end who proposed a plan to wean guys off razor slashing and rioting in the cinemas by taking them Rambling ( up the Cathkin Braes? ). It was well meaning but never worked. When I look back I am thankful to all the men ( and women) who took the time to organise football in Rutherglen. It probaby had an immense positive influence on the lives of many guys. Definetly for me. It would have been so easy to have got sucked into the gang culture when I was growing up. I would rather be good with my feet kicking a ball, than punching someone I did not even know. Hope everyone enjoys this Jubilee holiday weekend.
Posted by The Goalie
Saturday 02nd of June 2012 07:36:47
Re the last Post: Going back 60 years or more the Salvations Army claimed that young Glaswegians were in moral danger from dance halls. “ They are a more serious menace to young people than drinking and gambling “. They offered to escort young women home late at night. Around about this time there was also a “ Purity Drive” to stamp out swearing by football fans. You could be fined 2 pounds – a fortune in those days. On the Home Page of the rutherglensgreatest.com website it says “ We all know someone who should have been a great player, but got lost along the way to Wine, Women, Song, or the Bookies. “ That is 100% true. I bet everyone who is reading this site knows someone like that. Quick now – who is the first name you think about that should have been a great player but got “ lost “. - But Wine, Women, Song, the Bookies and Swearing are things that most footballers like! My Dad liked a punt on the horses and I remember him telling me that when he was a boy you could be fined ten bob if caught be the polis for playing Pitch and Toss in streets of Rutherglen - gambling was seen as a vice. The more I think about it, my old man liked a few of the other vices too ! - I wonder what Rutherglen looked like 60 years ago, and how many dance halls were in town then. I wonder how much a pint cost then ?
Posted by The Pie Man
Saturday 02nd of June 2012 06:57:54
Good Morning web surfers and football fans of this site from whatever country you are reading this. This weekend here in the UK the Queen celebrates 60 years as Monarch and being on the throne. Many people will be celebrating with a street party: the bunting is up and the carry oot is in. It is also an extended holiday weekend and another day off work. Thanks Queen. Princess Elizabeth acceded to the throne as Queen Elizabeth II on 6 February 1952 and was crowned on 2 June 1953. Many people will watch this weekend events, including the Queen going to her favourite Sports event, The Epsom Derby, by the magic of television. But go back to 1952 and this is when television was introduced to Scotland. There were fewer than 1,000 licensed TV sets in Glasgow. A few miles from Rutherglen in Glasgow City Centre, the Arnott Simpson store on Jamaica Street invited their customers to view TV - admittance was by ticket only ! A Sauchiehall Street ( famous shopping area in Glasgow ) shop offered black and white TV sets from 49 guineas. This is an era when the average weekly wage was 7 pounds 7 shillings and 3 pence, with many Ruglonians earning less. Do you remember your first telly? What was the first Sports event you seen on it? The Queen has travelled all over the world and seen all the Wonders of the World, but I wonder if she has ever witnessed a Burgh Cup final ? Does anyone know what teams played in the final in 1952 ? Are any of the players still living in the Royal Burgh - it would be great to hear their football story. Enjoy your weekend.
Posted by Steve
Friday 01st of June 2012 06:18:13
re post below and question about Frank Daly the Janny: Yes he was at St.Marks. He was also the janny at St.Columbkilles in the 1950's and helped run the team where a young Bobby Murdoch started his football career. Frank, and many other guys like him, are the unsung heroes of grass roots football around Rutherglen.
Posted by Gregory
Friday 01st of June 2012 06:13:38
Does anyone know if Derek and Darren Young who played with Aberdeen came from Rutherglen? ( or where they born just outside the Border in Cambuslang ?)
Posted by the Van Boy
Wednesday 30th of May 2012 21:46:24
Does anyone remember the Saturday night football papers ? The Pink Evening Times and the “ Big “ Green Glasgow Evening Citizen were football-based papers issued at tea time on a Saturday. They had reports of all the senior games played that afternoon. They came out about 6 o’clock ( the afternoon games had only finished just over an hour earlier ). I was always amazed these newspapers were produced so quickly and distributed in vans to newsagents in all parts of Glasgow. It was the van boy's task to run into the shop and throw a bundle of hot-off-the-presses paper on the counter, and you never stood in his way. There was often a queue of men waiting impatiently to get their paper. This was in the days before computers, the internet and modern communications. The reporters phoned in their reports to the print office in Glasgow ( Albion Street ) from short hand notes. Most sports reporters are bevvy merchants, and because they were written so quickly, they often had typing mistakes. For example, “ Kenny Dalglish hit the cross bar with a shit from 18 yards “. In the pubs of Rutherglen everyone read the papers to find out the scores and football reports. I seem to remember Wee Willie Leggat was the paper man and used to sell his papers on the Main Street and then go around all the pubs selling the papers. Get yer souvenir speciaaal was a common cry. Usually free 10 x 6 photos of the top players/team at the time. I might be wrong but there was no colours, it was black amd white photos. I am sure some readers of this Rutherglen website may still have their souvenir copies. And the fish and chips tasted great out of them as well.
Posted by timothy tomkinson
Wednesday 30th of May 2012 07:37:31
frank daly post.....think it was the same guy who organised football on the easter holiday mornings..if im not mistaking he stayed in blairbeth..was he the st marks janny??
Posted by Stramash Smith
Sunday 27th of May 2012 09:57:05
I heard recently that South Lanarkshire Council have said they are looking at bringing back the historical character of lampposts in Overtoun Park ( the Victorian-style street lights. ). These retro-style street lamps can be seen in a few different places now around the Burgh including as you drive over the Dalmarnock Bridge. I like them, and I think they add character to the town. When I was growing up we played a lot of night football in the street under the lamp posts: I always thought their purpose was to be a goal post. We threw a jersey down at the other side of the wee street and that was the goals built. Until I was about 14 years old, I thought the real purpose of a jumper was a goal post. It was always mine that the older guys in the street wanted chucked down. Saying No was not an option if you wanted a kickabout. There was not many cars on the street in our scheme and it was safe to play out on the road. The only problem was if someone tripped you and you banged a knee agains those kerb stones, it was sore. But crying in front of your pals was NOT an option.
Posted by Yak
Saturday 26th of May 2012 22:22:20
I see that Rutherglens Greatest website is getting some comments on the Tartan Army forum: see http://taboard.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=133189 - Also there is some stuff on http://webmii.asia/Result.aspx/Bobby/Murdoch - not sure if this a site in Asia.
Posted by Shug
Saturday 26th of May 2012 07:03:27
Re the last post: aye your right. Craigie could ping a ball with either foot. Left or right, it didn’t matter to him. The wee man had Ambidextrous feet.
Posted by Bacardi John
Saturday 26th of May 2012 06:52:14
A schoolboy in England set a World Record years ago when he scored three goals in the first half direct from corner kicks. The ball sailed into the net without anyone else touching it. That is some achievement. But I wonder who the Corner King Taker was from Rutherglen ? I have been racking my brains but I don’t even remember anyone scoring one direct goal never mind three. I remember a few guys who had a reputation for being accurate kickers of a ball and could ping a ball over the park with great accuracy. Maybe the best was Craig Speirs. The wee man had some inbuilt radar and did not even have to look to find a team mate. Rutherglen had lots of naturally gifted players. Guys who were born to play football, and just knew the game instinctively and did not need to huff and puff around a football park. But looking at the Rutherglen Greatest team selection, I don’t see a Corner King Taker.
Posted by Ritchie
Saturday 26th of May 2012 06:30:17
The primary school janitor had an influence on the football careers of many budding footballers from Rutherglen. He could stop you kicking a ball in the playground, or he could encourage you: he could lock the gates at 4 o’clock , or keep them open and let you finish your game: he could confiscate your ball if it smashed a classsroom window or if it got stuck up on the roof, or he would just ignore and let you continue playing: he could provide a sticking plaster if you fell and skinned your knee: he could stop you playing before classes every morning, or not. He could provide an emergency ball, if someone burst the only plastic ball that was available. He would turn up every Saturday morning hail, rain or shine, and help with the school team. We used to meet at the stone shelter at the Spittal for away games all across Glasgow: he used to make sure the number of players who got on the Corporation ( or SMT ) bus going to the game was the same number that came back: he did not want to leave anyone stranded alone in an exotic part of Glasgow. We had the greatest janny: his name was Frank Daly. All these years later and I can still remember Frank and his dedication to Rutherglen schools football.
Posted by Syd
Friday 25th of May 2012 21:22:39
Re post about Burgh Cup.It's featured in two of the photos in the gallery.The one titled 'All good sports' taken at Cathkin Primary in 1965 and the St Marks photo from 67.The other trophy in both photos is the McCafferty Shield.
Posted by Ben Johnstone
Friday 25th of May 2012 17:35:17
This is the year of the Olympics in the UK and I see that the Olympic Torch is now been carried through towns and villages across the whole country by nominated runners. Does anyone know if it is passing through Rutherglen ? I have an alternative suggestion. Instead of the jogging Torch carriers, why don’t we propose half a dozen guys ( to be nominated from this website ) to honour the Olympics football games. They could run along the Main Street playing keepy uppy, interpassing, or headers. I am sure that they would attract a much bigger crowd that watching someone with a Torch. It would also help the local economy. That is my Big Idea for Society this summertime. I don’t know if you seen the newspaper today ( the Daily Mail ), and the photo of the British Olympic Beach Volley Ball team promoting the Olympics by playing a game in front of Big Ben in London. My second Olympic idea is that the local council should invite the Brazilian Beach Volley ball team to play an exhibition game outside the Town Hall on Rutherglen Main Street. That too would also stimulate the local econony. Any other ideas on how we should celebrate the Olympics other than watching a jogging Torch ?
Posted by GAB
Thursday 24th of May 2012 23:14:49
Enjoyed RH post about Henry Carr not sure about best save but it did remind me of a game I played back in 1970.First let me say total respect to all you goalkeepers out there you are truly a different breed from other players. I was playing for Fernhill against Rangers B.C in a cup tie and our keeper never turned up .Everybody was arguing about who was going in so I thought what the hell how hard can it be. After about an hour we were locked at 1-1 and playing well. Rangers then brought on their sub . Within 15 mins of coming on he had his hat trick. He had obviously been watching my every move throughout the game and had picked up on one very vital point about my game for some reason and no matter how hard I tried for the life of me I could not dive to my left. I then spent the remainder of the game which felt like a lifetime frantically defending my left post .Thankfully the game ended only 4-1 as it could have been much worse never again would I stand between the sticks total nightmare.
Posted by curious
Thursday 24th of May 2012 22:22:44
Has anybody any idea where the Burgh Cup is now.
Posted by the Night Owl
Wednesday 23rd of May 2012 22:34:13
Who is the Greatest Player You Never Saw ? I think the player on this list that I would like to have seen playing is Napoleon McMenemy. What a career ( and life ) that guy had. Surprised he did not get more votes for Rutherglen’s Greatest player, but I suppose he played in a different era and is not as well known as more “ modern “ local players. It is a beautiful warm night here in Rutherglen and I feel like a game of football. I think I will go out and knock the ball against the back garden wall for a wee while, or at least until the neighbours complain
Posted by Bacardi John
Monday 21st of May 2012 20:53:31
I am interested in the history of the Burgh Cup. I did a GOOGLE search on “ Burgh Cup Rutherglen “. There is a story in the Rutherglen Reformer dated 26/11/2008. It says that the competition started in 1910 - over 100 years ago. The famous trophy didn’t start out as the Burgh Cup, it was originally called the Givens cup before under going a name change. The Given family gave it to Rutherglen Glencairn and they couldn’t find a use for it so they gave it to the town council and it became the Burgh Cup, although the Given name is still on the cup. It also mentions local councillors Brian McKenna and Benny Greenan in the article. Do you have any photographs, memorabilia or memories of the Burgh Cup ?
Posted by RH
Monday 21st of May 2012 16:47:23
I was talking today to one of Rutherglen’s best goalkeepers: - Henry Carr. He is in his 70’s now. I asked him about his greatest save. He talked about a game when he played for Strathclyde Juniors against Glencairn at Southcroft. He was lying on the ground when the opposition centre forward hit a shot at goal from only a few yards out.. Henry dived and twisted in mid air and produced a stunning save. An old spectator at the game gave Henry a big compliment when he said “ it was a good as a Johnny Thompson save “. ( John Thomson, was the Celtic goalkeeper who died after an accidental collision in a match against Rangers in 1931 when he fractured his skull and died in the Victoria Infirmary after the game. He was also the Scottish international goalie ). Every player on this list must have seen great local keepers and great saves. I wonder what the best ever save is ?
Posted by Tonto
Sunday 20th of May 2012 11:00:41
“ Things To Do Before you’re 30” is a film about a Sunday football amateur team and a bunch of guys who have been friends since their childhoods and are now approaching that dreaded age of responsibility, marriage, mortgage, kids, gas bills, etc etc. In the pub, a posh journalist is writing a story about them and compiling a list of ' things to do before you're 30' for a magazine. She asks the team to contribute their ideas. The list is extensive and detailed ,and not the answers she was expecting. But in the film one of the player’s girl friend utters the classic line and a conversation stopper, “ There is more to Life than Football “. Oh is that right Mrs. The football season finished yesterday when Chelski won the European Cup and Hearts won the Scottish Cup, and for the next several weeks the men of Rutherglen will go insane. I mean what are you going to do on a Saturday ( or Sunday ) afternoon over the summer ? Push the trolley around Tesco at Farme Cross – I don’t thinks so. When I was younger I used to go out with a cracking girl, who loved football and she played in a team. I used to go down and watch her play in the women’s league ( they played games on a pitch down the back of Cambuslang near the Hoover ). She was some player. A midfield dynamo of energy. At least with her she enjoyed talking football all the time, even during the close season. She never asked daft questions like “ Why does football make men happy ? “ . Enjoy your summer chaps and chapesses. If it was not for the football where would we be ?
Posted by Postman Pat
Friday 18th of May 2012 06:33:13
Walk into any dressing room in Rutherglen in the 1970’s and lots of the players would be wearing a gold chain. It was the fashion. My girlfriend at the time gave me one with a football boot on it. It was cracker. But it was dangerous to wear during a game: if you went into the opposition box for a corner kick, some unscrupulous defender would grab it just as you were about to jump to head the ball. All that jostling and blocking you see on TV football games today is nothing: in my day defenders would grab anything to stop you scoring. Before a game the manager, ( or someone you trusted ) used to offer keep all the chains and valuables in a plastic bag as a safe place: the start of games could be delayed as some players struggled to remove their jewellery. Stil it was safer, as I am sure every player on this list has experienced going back to the dressing room after a game to find it had been visited by an unwelcome guest. Today you can see some nice gold chains in the Pawn Shop in the Mitchell Arcade. I am going to take a walk down later and see if I can find a Ballon d'Or. I always wanted one of those. ( and a Burgh Cup winners medal ).
Posted by Football Crazy
Thursday 17th of May 2012 20:38:24
Reading some of the stuff on here is like a walk down memory lane. I recognise the names of a lot of the players on the list. Being a child of the 50’s I don’t remember tin baths or outside toilets, but I do remember cod liver oil and orange juice to build up my strength to play football. That is all we ever did. School didn’t really matter, but football in our street did. I was hooked on football once my Dad showed me how to kick a ball. Purple stains of iodine on our knees ( under our short trousers: it was not uncommon to wear these until you were about 10 years old then) was no big deal: falls, trips, cuts, bruises, happened every other game. It didn’t matter if you had two left feet, you joined in the game. Injury time never applied to our games, you just played until you were knackered or your mother shouted you in for your tea. A plate of chips and a piece on jam and you were out and back in the game again. The football world was at our feet. Our games never ended in a boring 0-0 draw – no chance of that. These were Golden days. And I also remember the girls in the street playing balls. Remember that ? A rubber ( or tennis ) ball in each hand stoating it against the wall, and some of the good girls could hold four balls at the same time and do tricks ( behind their back, under their legs, etc etc). Used to drive them mental when we kicked them away. Finally. I agree with the voting on this site, Bobby Murdoch was the Greatest Footballer from Rutherglen.
Posted by Conrad the Barbarian
Thursday 17th of May 2012 17:02:03
Aye Big Gordon Brown was a football maniac when he was young. Great player to have in your team, but his patter was mince. Even trying to chat up women at the dancing/in the pub, etc his opening line was “ Alright love, do you anything about the offside rule ? “. Not only was he a good player ( left peg only, right peg was for standing ), but I seem to remember he was also the marble Champion of Fernhill. Put your marbles in the circle and he would knock then out with a bullseye: pity his passing was not so accurate.
Posted by Neil fae Neilvaig
Wednesday 16th of May 2012 22:15:05
Re last post from Boz Brown, who was a good big player. Ronaldo did not invent the stepover, it was Boz. Mind you I am not sure he knew waht he was doing, but it worked. More stepovers than Ronaldo is not a bad legacy for a football career learned on the mean streets of Fernhill is it ?
Posted by GAB
Wednesday 16th of May 2012 21:41:50
Back in 1967 in my second last year at Cathkin Primary I had what you would call now my Tevez moment.The school team were playing Burnside on the pitch at our school and for some reason they only had eleven players and no sub so Mr Robertson who ran the team asked if anybody knew someone who could fill in and my name was given.He got me out of the class and took me home for my boots I was over the moon just to be part of the school team a year before I should have. The game was going badly for Cathkin as they were losing 2-0 and with 15 mins to go he told me get ready to go on.I just looked at him and said no as I could not believe that we were losing to such a bad side afterwards I was praying that Mr Robertson would leave the school as I have would have had no chance of playing for the school the following year thankfully my prayers were answered and he did move on and I managed to stake my place as captain in a much improved Cathkin team from the year before.
Posted by Vince Vodka
Tuesday 15th of May 2012 07:17:45
Football injuries happen. Every player on this list has tweaked a hamstring, someone has stood on your metatarsal, twisted an ankle, or you have been hit in the gonads with a mould master ball on a freezing cold Saturday morning game up the public park. Not a lot the magic sponge can do about that one. We all know players who are as hard as nails and refuse to go down and players who need the physio if they lose an eye lash. One of the oddest injuries I seen was a guy I used to work with. He would run through a brick wall to win. One night he was playing an indoor game: he was chasing the ball full pelt and forgot it was a wee tight hall. He crashed into the wall with both hands outstretched. Crack – he snapped both wrists. He was taken to the Victoria and both hands were put in plaster: he had broken both wrists. He was newly married. For the next 6-8 weeks his new Mrs. had to do everything for him : from wiping his nose to tieing his shoe laces. He even struggled to lift a pint, the TV remote control, or zip himself up. Can you imagine losing the power of your hands for several weeks ? This is a worst imjury in my opinion than a kick in the gonads. But maybe not. I know than players who go on and end of season trip take a Vow of Silence. But listen to this. Every word is true. It was an end of season stag trip to Prague. It is 2 o’clock in the morning and our local football hero has had a few large pints of the local brew. He is standing on Prague Main Street and offers, yes offers, any passing young lady to have a kick at his gonads. No idea why. A young lady from America takes up this kind offer. Unknown to our football hero, she is a kick boxer. She takes a run and boots him in that most sensitive of places. He turns chalk white and crumples to the ground. This is a true story. If you do not believe it, by the magic of modern technology it was captured on a telephone and uploaded to YOUTUBE. It also captured every sound. The noise of a deflating gonad is painful. I understand our football hero is still strutting his stuff today on the football pitches around Rutherglen.
Posted by The Rutherglen Rover
Monday 14th of May 2012 21:27:56
I often wondered if the Overtoun football pitches ( where the Rutherglen Health centre is now located ) was ever hit by the German bombers during the Blitz in World War Two. I know that a number of people were killed in Rutherglen during these raids. I then found some fasinating information on http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2878. Here is what was written: “ SOCCEROO another site of actual bomb damage is the 4 in a block of flats at the corner of Stonelaw Road and Dryborough Avenue in Rutherglen. This block sustained a direct hit and was badly damaged. Across Stonelaw Road where the Takare sheltered housing complex now is, there used to be playing fields. I believe that the playing fields were constructed over some bomb craters from the same bombing run. It was believed at the time that the Luftwaffe were trying night time bombing of the nearby steel and other plant at Cambuslang, and maybe Ravenscraig. The nearby tenement block I lived in for a while in Stonelaw Road had some old well-settled internal structural cracks still evident - my old neighbour maintained that this was shock-wave damage from the bombing raid. “. Truly amazing.
Posted by Eddie plasterboard
Monday 14th of May 2012 20:05:36
I looked out my old programme from the charity match in the 80,s.The celebrity side had Joanna Lumley in goal, a back four of Molly Weir,Sid James,Barry Blue and Charlton Heston.The midfield was a diamond formation consisting of Harry Worth ,Hoss from Bonanza, Cilla Black and that guy from Brushstrokes .Upfront they had Freddie (parrot face) Davies and Rab Thomson.
Posted by Geronimo Smith
Sunday 13th of May 2012 11:06:55
Some well know local football names on this list from the 50’s 60’s 70’s 80’s 90’s and into the noughties. There are one, two, three generations of Ruglonain family names on the list. It is good to share some of these funny football stories and important memories and just acting daft ( that is what a football dressing room is like ). You do not see many players smiling nowadays during a game, but lots of guys on this list made football fun in their day. Andy Warhol once said “ everyone has 15 minutes of fame “ and loads of guys on this list were well known locally for their football abilities. Can you guess the 20 players I am talking about ? 1. He was like the Rain Man, give him a winning bookies line and he could work out the winning total quicker than an electronic calculator and be accurrate to the last penny. 2. Prepared for every game like he was getting ready to play in a World Cup Final. 3. Played for years with different teams, but his aftershave never changed – Aramis or Brut was slapped on after a game. 4. He had a badge of his favourite team tattooed on his calf. 5. Never missed a game due to injury – 100 games a season was easy peasy. 6. Always wanted an end of season trip to Magaluf. 7. Always thought that he was such a good player that he should have met Eamonn Andrews on “ This is Your Life “. 8. Fainted at the sight of blood. 9. The Rutherglen Plumber. 10. Every dressing room has a funny one, cocky one, aggressive one, nervous one, but he always thought he was the Best Looking One. 11. A good guy to have if the team needed a minibus driver . 12. Once told everyone he was been watched by a scout from a team in Serie A : turned out it was from a team from Syria. 13. When he was warming up at the side of the park at Fernhill it was difficult to tell if he was doing The Twist or having an Epileptic Fit. 14. One day he was a sub and the manager told him to go and warm up: he went for a pie and then went back to the dressing room and sat next to the radiator. 15. The most running he ever did at training was when he was practicing his goal celabrations. 16. He became a manager but did not know the difference between tactics and tic-tacs. 17. Always thought he would be the first player from Rutherglen to win a World Cup winners medal. 18. One of the few footballers who never swore on the park. 19. Could start a fight in an empty house. 20. If a dog ( greyhound ) chased him at training, he would just kick it in the bollocks
Posted by Jake McGinty
Saturday 12th of May 2012 14:51:09
In response to the Midfield General comment below: we have all played on a cabbage patch pitch with hidden dog shit. I also remember playing on a pitch up between Hamilton and Larkhall: it was known locally at the Stadium of Shite. The farmer used to keep his cows next to the pitch and they obviously wondered on eating the grass and lines and left two inch high steaming pancakes for the next game. But it never stopped the Kamikazee defenders in our team doing slide tackles
Posted by The Curry King
Saturday 12th of May 2012 14:23:18
There has been a lot in the national papers this week about that guy with the exploding underpants on the aeroplane. Security experts say that they never expected anyone to try this. Let me tell you that we had a player in our team in 1980’s who had exploding underwear. He used to go out on a Friday night down the Main Street for a few pints, then nick into that Indian restaurant that used to be near the Vogue, had a Vindaloo and drank the pakora sauce straight out of the wee dip holder. Sitting next to him next day in the wee dressing room at Fernhill listening to the team talk was not a pleasant experience. He did not need to sew anything into his jocks, it was all natural. If you went into the loo cubicle after him, you were advised to take a canary in a cage. Probably best not to name him, but you know who you are. ( he was some footballer ).
Posted by anonymous
Saturday 12th of May 2012 13:48:09
In response to question below from Rambo: the answer is Yes. I have played in a team where I did not like one of my team mates. We were playing a game one day, and during the match he told me that he was going to break the leg of the opposition team left back. The next tackle he went right over the ball, and you could hear the crack of the leg all around the park. I was sickened. The poor injured guy never really played at the same level again. I never spoke to my team mate again. I was happy when he soon left the club. Most guys who play football are decent hard working people, and you do not people who deliberately hurt an opponent.
Posted by Jacko
Saturday 12th of May 2012 13:23:40
In response to the points raised by Rambo in his post below: one thing that did surprise me was the first time a player came into the dressing room at Fernhill, emptied his sports bag and brought out a big Hair Dryer. It sounded like a jet when he plugged it in, and I am sure the lights dipped all around the scheme. He was forgiven as he was some player and tougher than John Wayne.
Posted by The wee Goalie
Saturday 12th of May 2012 13:11:08
Re post below and the question from Rambo: one player I really admired was a guy called Jimmy Caldwell. He was a centre forward and played for Quarriers Homes. They used to come and play at Fernhill against the local Fernhill team in a Scottish Amateur League game ( or cup ties ). Jimmy was as fast as a whippet, hard as nails, and scored lots of goals. The amazing thing about him was he was dumb: he could not shout for the ball like other players. But he let out huge loud grunts to let his team mates know where he was. A terrific attitude to football and he gave 100% in a game. You were playing against a right good player when you played against Jimmy Caldwell.
Posted by Mungo
Saturday 12th of May 2012 09:49:16
Re post below from The Stiltman: that is a classic line about Herman Munster. Laughed our loud when I read that. I have heard of platform shoes before, but never platform football boots. Also the post from The Optimist and comments about his mother are great. I remember my mother used to hand wash my football gear every week. Every Saturday morning my socks, shorts and jersey were Persil white and packed into my Adidas bag. My Dad also on occassions used to sit round our back and dubbin my boots and clean the muck from the soles. Where would we be without our parents trying to help us enjoy our football ? I also lived in a house full of sisters – some of them are WAGS now. We never really talked about football as their questions were a bit daft and they were more interested in gossip and fashion and the latest hairstyle and boyfriends. But my youngest sister used to enjoy football. In fact I remember her climbing the lamp post in our street to watch the guys playing football at night underneath the lamps. Bit of a tomboy, but she liked her football.
Posted by Rambo Murphy
Saturday 12th of May 2012 08:50:21
Do you remember your first game under flood lights? Or your first game with the real goal nets ? Or your first game with an official referee and two linesmen with flags ? Or the first time you played in front of a big crowd ? ( did spectators pay hard earned money to watch you? ). Were you nervous or scared ? Maybe it was your first cup final for your primary school – now that is pressure. Did you ever play in a game when you were running up the wing and you hear panting behind you , and then the fat linesman who ran like Forrest Gump runs bye you ? Was that the game you realise you had to be fit to play football ? Did you get butterflies in your stomach before a game on a Saturday afternoon and you got pumped up with Adrenalin – do you miss that feeling ? Did you ever play against someone who scared you ? Did you every play against someone who was just so good you knew they were on a different level.? Did you ever play in at team where you did not like some of your team mates ? Did you ever have a Footballers Perm ? Did you ever have a manager who did not swear ? Did you ever play with someone so cocky and confident that every time he stepped onto a football park he knew he would score - you know the type of guy who, even away from football, if he met Miss World down the Burnside Hotel dancing, he would try and pull her ? So many questions about local football. I am going to have a right good read through this website today and see if I can find some answers. Football in Rutherglen was full of drama, humour, highs and lows.
Posted by The midfield General
Saturday 12th of May 2012 08:22:53
What was the best football park you played on? Most of the guys on the Rutherglens’s Greatest Player list have played on loads of different parks across Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Rutherglen and beyond. We have all played on parks with a bowling green surface, or a park with the hidden dog shit, or black ash, or red gravel, or the plastic (astrosurf ) pitch where if you did a slide tackle you left blood stained skin marks ( knee, hip, elbow, etc ), or on cold frosted rutted pitches that should have carried a Health and Safety warning. My local favourite was the grass park down at Spittal. Great memories of playing in the summertime on that wee park.
Posted by the stiltman
Saturday 12th of May 2012 00:02:58
Re post about football boots.The first trial I ever had for the primary school team was a disaster.I had no boots and had to borrow a pair unfortunately they were of the 1950's variety going up over the ankles.I could hardly walk never mind run.There I was shuffling up and down the pitch like Herman Munster on a bad day.Needless to say I never made the team.
Posted by the persuader
Friday 11th of May 2012 23:30:17
The Jim Morrison lookalike was fooling nobody in the 80's charity match.Has anyone any idea who this was.I heard a rumour he lived in Fernhill and was spotted by Ernie Wise and persuaded to take part by Mr Curtis for a small fee.
Posted by sid poitier
Friday 11th of May 2012 22:27:37
re post tony C penalty miss....that wasnt a miss.. it was a fantastic save from joanna lumley
Posted by the optimist
Friday 11th of May 2012 21:42:48
In the summer of 1964 I was eleven years old and had finally made it into the school team after several failed attempts.I could now walk into the playground with my head held high and get a game straight away with the elite.The first team talk I attended was pure magic,I felt like a professional.I remember that special feeling when you were called out of class for an afternoon game and everyone else was stuck there for the rest of the day,bored to death.It probably didn't do my education any good but I wouldn't have changed it for the world.About three or four days before I made my big debut disaster struck.I was playing five a side with my pals when I fell down a pothole and twisted my knee.It was badly swollen so my mother took me to the doctor.He strapped it up and told me no football for the foreseeable future.I was gutted but there was no way I was missing that game,not a chance.I went to school on the day of the match and just before kick of sneaked into the toilets and took the bandage off.I struggled through and nobody was any the wiser or so I thought.When my mother found out she went mental and had a go at my teacher.So that was the end of my playing days for a while.Sitting around the house fed up one day my dad came in from work and chucked me a book and said'that might cheer you up'.It was all about the history of the World cup.I was fascinated by the grainy old black and white photos of past tournaments and great teams.I was lost in that book for months.I decided there and then I would try my best to see every home qualifying match Scotland would be involved in for the 1966 tournament held in England.They were in the same group as Finland,Poland and Italy who had already won it twice so it was going to be tough.After two wins against the Fins and a draw with Poland away they lost to the Poles at Hampden 2-1 with two late goals.Little did I know this would be a sign of things to come.I was there right behind the goal John Greig scored that great winner against the mighty Italians in a crowd of over 100,000,brilliant night.With one game left in Naples they still had a chance but tumbled to a 3-0 defeat,sound familiar.So we didn't qualify but it was a great experience.As for the school team I got back in just in time to win three cup winners medals so it was worth the wait.Scotland have made it to a lot of World Cup finals since then but they just can't seem to make it past the group to the knock out stage.If they did it would be like playing in the final for me I would settle for that.After all I've been waiting for almost fifty years now.
Posted by the Viking
Friday 11th of May 2012 19:17:47
I remember that penalty Tony Curtis missed in the big charity match at Fernhill in the 1980's.Why did he hesitate.
Posted by The Singing Detective
Wednesday 09th of May 2012 20:08:13
Re post below about football posters: I had a great Big poster of Rutherglen’s Greatest Player on my bedroom wall – the great Bobby Murdoch: He was surrounded by the likes of Brigitte Bardot, the French actress: Rachel Welch in her famous 1,000,000 Millions Years BC poster : the original James Bond girl- Ursula Andress - walking out the blue sea wearing a white bikini and a belt : the Blonde singer from the Middle of the Road band – who can ever forget the classic song Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep. Lulu and her mini skirt ( one of the best inventions of the 60’s / 70’s ): the famous Tennis poster girl scratching her erse: the Che Guevara poster: the Uriah Heep band. I never had any of the great Brazilian players like Pele. In fact I never seen a real black man in the street until I was about 12 years old. I used to go up to my room to do my homework, but often got distracted and spent most of my time just staring at the posters. No wonder I failed my school qualy exams. Still I wish I had kept my vintage posters – they would be worth a fortune nowadays on E-Bay.
Posted by Junior
Wednesday 09th of May 2012 19:36:00
Re post below about football boots: most guys on this site will know that if you played with a Junior team, most clubs would allow you to buy two pair of boots ( rubbers and studs) at their expense at the start of the season. You would go to the committee room and speak to the Treasurer, who usually had a deal with a sports shop ( for example, Greaves Sports near Central Station in Glasgow). The conversation went something like this: The treasurer would say , “ What size of boots do you take son ? ” - “ I need a pair of size 7 and a pair of siz 9 “, replied the player. “ Get lost “ was always the answer from the treasurer, “ and tell your Big Brother to buy his own F***** boots.” It happened at every club, but you could never outsmart the committee man who signed the cheques. Every penny was a prisoner
Posted by The Denim King
Tuesday 08th of May 2012 20:23:18
Like most school boys of my age I dreamed of being a footballer. My bedroom wall was plastered with my great players and teams. Denis Law, George Best, the great Brazil World Cup winning team ( 1970 ) etc etc, Also had a few of Pan’s People, Charlie’s Angels, Linda Lovelace, the two Swedes from ABBA, but that is another story. If truth be told I probably was not good enough to be a professional. As I got older I realised that football is survival of the fittest. Natural selection and all that. If your face did not fit with a manager, you had no chance. His is the only opinion that matters. When I look at the list of wonderful players from Rutherglen, I wonder how many were close to making it big, but for the opinion a manager somewhere. Got to say even all these years later I still miss the smell of liniment on a Saturday afternoon. Nothing beats playing a good game with your mates
Posted by RH
Tuesday 08th of May 2012 19:29:44
A few days ago I was talking to a regular contributor to this website: he told me that Spittal Primary School are using the Photo Gallery on this site for some “memorabilia “/photographs of teams and players who represented their school football team in the distant past. Thanks to whoever took the time to post the photos onto the site. There may be more local schools/clubs who will be interested to find out more about football in Rutherglen. Your stories and memories are starting to create a nice archive for others to enjoy
Posted by little robin tomkinson
Monday 07th of May 2012 22:26:43
I played in the b4 mentioned charity match at fernhill...i remember the after party at the stirrup cup..great night.. after a few i decided 2 invite a few celebs up 2my house..@that time i stayed with my parents...so u can imagine their suprise wen they woke up in the morn to find harry worth russell harty and barry blue all sleeping down stairs....my mum made them breakfast my dad got the accoustic and b4 u can say the russian alphabet backwards...we re all singing dancing on a saturday night...great night...great memories
Posted by Scooby Doo
Monday 07th of May 2012 21:00:21
In the 1970’s does anyone remember the “ Penarol “ football boots? What did they look like ? I think they were made by Adidas. I cannot even remember my favourite boots, but I remember getting a pair of Puma. Some boots looked great, but I could always feel the studs coming through especially if playing on an ash park. Also I never wore shin guards, never seen the point of them. Bye the way, who owns that football boot on the Photo Gallery on this site
Posted by Madasafish
Monday 07th of May 2012 20:42:57
I was reading through some of the posts on this site. My favourire pre match meal was custard and a banana. Also I am sure there are many players on this list who were milk boys: up at six o’clock in the morning to deliver the milk . I always though an ice cold pint of Full Fat milk before a game was the perfect energy drink. Even licking the gold top to get every ounce of that milky fat. I am sure modern day sport scientists and nutritionists would say it was unhealthy, but it never done us any harm. Just think of the great players down the years who were brought up on a pint of Perrats dairy milk. Yum Yum.
Posted by the Viking
Sunday 06th of May 2012 22:24:56
Re post about the big charity match at Fernhill in the early 80's.It wasn't Kirk Douglas who took part it was in fact his sidekick Tony Curtis.
Posted by it's a knockout
Sunday 06th of May 2012 22:16:17
Re post about the Inveralligin Shield below.It was first played for in the summer of 1967 and was originally scheduled for Shawfield but this fell through and had to be changed to Southcroft at the last minute and that's where it stayed.I nearly missed taking part after falling foul of wee Hammy the maths teacher at Gallowflat for acting like a prat in his class on the day of the match.After a lot of crawling on my behalf he changed his mind and let me play.I don't remember a lot about that one but i'm pretty sure Academy won.The one I do remember was the following years game.The match was tied at 1-1 after the under 14's played so at least we had a chance.It was 2-2 until late in the second half when a high ball was lobbed into the Academy box.The Academy goalkeeper Steven Campbell[yes that Steven Campbell the famous artist from Rutherglen]leapt into the air to gather the ball.Unfortunately he let the ball slip through his hands and over the line and we won the game 3-2.What the ref didn't see however was a bunch of those naughty Gallowflat supporters gathered behind his goal armed with pea shooters all firing in unison at his legs as he hovered in mid air.As one of our team sat on big Fred Mcnab our centre half's shoulders he brought the shield down and nearly knocked him unconscious.
Posted by Auld Yin
Sunday 06th of May 2012 18:40:09
In the 1940’s and 50’s junior scouts used to down to the The Piggery and watch the local guys play football. Junior football was huge then, and the offer of a few quid extra a week was appealing to all the players. Scouts used to have a word in the ear of players to tempt them to play for many Junior teams. Remember this is the days when it was not so easy to travel about .
Posted by Rutherglen: Man in the Know.
Sunday 06th of May 2012 18:29:39
Does anyone know when the first Burgh Cup Final was played? The first I know about 1945. In those days, the winning players never got a heart shaped wooden shield: if anyone has an original winners medal can you please post a copy on this site please.
Posted by Memory Man.
Sunday 06th of May 2012 18:22:06
Rutherglen is a small place. It was full of brilliant players . The best player from the burgh was a guy called Tam Gray. He came from the Burnhill in the 1950’s. Left foot, right foot, passing, scoring goals, he had it all. This was the days when it was not easy to travel away to play football. There was no cars or SATNAV. You went by bus. Bus from Rutherglen into Glasgow, and then a bus out to Kirkintilloch, Yoker, Petershill, or wherever you were playing. Unfortunatley Tam was a nutter and never fulfilled his potential.
Posted by Striker
Sunday 06th of May 2012 18:09:08
Here is a story you probably have never heard before. In 1946 St.Columbkilles played the Fairie Street school in the Burgh Cup Final. This was a local derby. The game was played on on a Friday night at Southcroft. The game ended 1-1. The goal scorer for St.Columbkilles was Tony McGuiness. He scored when the ball hit his arse and flew into the net. Tony went onto to become a very successful business man and had a joinery business. He was very supportive of local football, and I think he was very supportive of the foundation of Fernhill Athletic Fotball Club. The next night ( Saturday ). St.Columkilles beat Fairie Street to 1-0 to win the Burgh Cup.
Posted by GAB
Saturday 05th of May 2012 15:45:41
When at Rutherglen Academy the game you looked forward to at the end of the season was against Gallowflat for the Inveralligin Shield played at Southcroft.The first year I played in it was season 69/70 for Academy under 14s.We went out first against Gallowflat and won 4-1.The shield was decided on aggregate scores over two games.Unfortunetly our under 15s were against that great Gallowflat team with John Brown, John Graham,Andy McLintock to name but a few by half time in that game the shield was lost .I think if we had even won 10-1 in the first game the shield would have been lost that Gallowflat team were exceptional.The following season 70/71 was my first year at the new Cathkin High and we were now obviously going to play for the shield against Stonelaw.The problem with the schools splitting was that a few of our old team remained at Stonelaw and would now be playing against us.We did not have a good under 14 side but they managed to only lose 4-1.We had beaten Stonelaw twice in the league and thought we would claw back the deficite no bother.At half time we found ourselves 2-0 down 6-1 on aggregate.However in the second half with a monumental effort we scored 5 to tie the overall score at 6-6.This was the first time in the history of the Inveralligin shield there had been a tie.I remember the teachers Bob Smith from Cathkin and George Bradley arguing about what to do Smith wanted extra time but Bradley said if that happened he wanted the under 14s to play extra time also .That was never going to happen as they were already changed Smith then suggested penalties but Bradley refused. They ended up agreeing to share the Shield which was gutting for me as captain because I never got the chance to lift the Shield.It was also gutting for all the players as nobody got a medal as they only had one set.You would have thought for educated people someone might have suggested getting another set of medals to mark the occasion.
Posted by Edna piles
Saturday 05th of May 2012 09:42:03
Can anyone reading recall a charity match held on the big pitch at fernhill in the early 80's. The match came about when Bob Thomson almost choked to death on a Mint Kraknel during a fernhill villa game.After the match Bob decided to contact Mick Hucknel,out of simply red,to bring some of his showbiz friends up for a game in aid of anyone who had almost choked on Mint Kraknels.The reason Bob asked Mick Hucknel (out of simply red) was because"Mick Hucknel sounds a bit like Mint Kraknel".The game was played on a Wednesday night .I seem to remember the showbiz team having a back four of Leslie Crowther,Harry Secombe,Did James and Molly Weir.I also recall Cilla Black nutmegging Bob Thomson and delivering a pinpoint cross for HARRY WORTH to nod home.Can anyone else remember this match or any of the players involved.I,m pretty sure Kirk Douglas was involved in some capacity.
Posted by Del Boy
Saturday 05th of May 2012 07:50:44
I was reading a football book recently: the author dedicated his book too:“ All the footballers of my childhood who didn’t wear earrings, gloves or tights, but turned out in freezing temperatures in short sleeved shirts and kicked and headed a saturated ball that felt like a ton. “ . When I was growing up in Rutherglen I can never remember a player wearing an earring, or having a ponytail with a brigh coloured band to stop his hair being wasted in the wind. The only thing I can remember was a time when everyone wore a gold chain, even on the pitch. ( it was obviously not real gold, but that stuff you could buy up the Barras or off the guy in the pub for a few quid, and it used to leave a green or brown ring around your neck ). There was also a time in the 1970’s when everyone had long hair and a beard, and that was OK, but no earrings. I remember playing an under 18 game in Cambuslang and the opposition team central defenders looked like ZZ Top. That was days when before a game the match secretary had to fill in the team lines “paperwork” before a game: you had to write down your name, address, date of birth etc. It was easy for the nut job you were playing against to find out where you lived after the game if he was looking for revenge. Some teams on occassions played an overage “ wringer “, but I have got to say the Cambuslang ZZ Top brothers had long passed puberty. The oldest under 18’s I have ever seen.
Posted by The Goalscorer
Saturday 05th of May 2012 06:56:25
What a brilliant post below from The Optimist. I remember walking through the bus smog on Toryglen Road on my way to Hampden Park. Buses from all over Scotland used to park all along the main road leading in from the Burnhill. My first international game was a night game against Wales. They were a good team and included players like John Charles: now he was a genuine world class player. Night football was always great under those BIG floodlights. I still remember how green the park looked: how small the players looked from high up on the old terraces: how bright red the Wales jersey looked: how high and big the old stands at Hampden were: the drizzle of the rain under the lights: the river of water flowing down the terraces: well it was a long walk up to the old toilet: Indian Pale Ale cans scatterd on the terraces: my father shouting on Scotland and giving very “ honest” opinions if a player made a mistake, I had never seen my Dad like that before: football really does bring out the best in men. The BIG badges on the jersey of both Wales and Scotland: now they were the days of great football badges that filled a jersey: the satisfied long walk home from Hampden after the game sharing opinions with Dad and just talking football and learning from him. It seemed a long way home at the time, but Rutherglen is only a couple of miles. Feeling happy that I had seen my first ever international football game and loved the whole experience. As I got older me and my pals used to sometimes run over to Hampden on a Saturday afternoon if Queens Park were playing; the great gates opened about 20 minutes from the end of the game and could walk into the great old stadiun for free and sit up in the stands. Looking around the empty terraces you realised how BIG Hampden Park really was. I think I am right in saying that at one time Hampden Park was the biggest ground in the world. ( it was overtaken eventually by the Maracana in Rio, and others ). As I got older I went to many big games at Hampden and have stood a number of times with over 100,000 other football nuts. When will we see the likes again of football crowd that size ? The walk from Rutherglen to Hampden is stacked with good memeries for me.
Posted by almost robbed
Friday 04th of May 2012 23:02:38
During a game for Fernhill Athletic in the early seventies we were awarded a penalty,I took the kick myself and hit it low and hard into the corner of the net.It went in so quickly it rattled the stanchion behind the goal and came flying back out.It might have been the best one I ever hit that's the place you were always aiming for so it was spot on.To my horror the opposing team just played on I could'nt believe it.I charged after the ref going mental shouting it was a goal,he was'nt having it and decided to book me,I was lucky he did'nt send me off.At that point there was a shout from the side of the pitch,it was one of the guys who ran the other team.He had been standing behind the goal and told the ref it was definitely in so we were given the goal.That was the one and only time I heard a ref apologize.A few years later I was watching Match Of The Day on BBC when Clive Allen took a free kick against Coventry City and the same thing happened to him only he did'nt get the goal and they lost 3-1.He did not look to happy and who can blame him I knew how he felt.If this isn't a case for goal line technology I don'nt know what is.
Posted by the optimist
Friday 04th of May 2012 21:27:06
The post below about Hampden's old floodlights reminds me of my first time watching Scotland.I was still a week short of my tenth birthday and not sure if it was an early present but there I was trudging along Curtis Avenue near the ground trying to keep up with my dad and my uncle's giant footsteps.I think they forgot I was there as they kept stopping to tell me to catch up.In the distance those giant lights looked awesome as they illuminated the night sky.I was excited about seeing my first international match but I was even more excited about seeing my favourite player,Denis Law.He was already a legend even then.It was only a friendly against Austria but I did'nt care this would be something to tell my pals about.I had grown up listening to my dad telling me stories about the legendary European Cup final at Hampden a few years earlier involving Real Madrid but I was to young to remember it.He told me that was the way the game should be played and who was I to disagree.Denis was the man in my eyes and I tried to copy his style of play right down to the way he wore his jersey outside his shorts and the way he pulled his sleeves over his hands and grasped the cuffs.Walking up the huge stairway at the ground then emerging at the top to see that great illuminated pitch was an amazing sight for a nine year old.Dennis played brilliant and scored twice so I was happy,what a night.That same year he was selected to represent the rest of the world side to play England at wembley in a team that included Pele,Eusebio,Di Stefano and Puskas from Real.He still managed to score their only goal,pure class.Scotland could do with a few players of Denis's calibre now.
Posted by Golden Ball
Monday 30th of April 2012 18:48:20
One of football memories of growing up in Rutherglen in the early 1960’s is the towering flood lights at Hampden Park. They dominated the South Side of Glasgow. If a night game was being played you could see the great lights from many places/streets around Rutherglen. If it was a big international game, or a Celtic/Rangers game, you could hear the roars and singing of the crowd for miles. You could be in your back garden listening to the commentary of a game ( by David Francey ?), on your transistor radio and at the same time listen to the Hampden Roar. This was in the days before live TV coverage of the big games
Posted by anonymous
Monday 30th of April 2012 11:29:08
re st marks boys guild won everything they entered 78/79 full of great players jammy,hunter,jonesey,carrots,wullie morrison etc ran by jim callaghan,sadly no longer with us, and spud murphy.most of the team went on to play with third lanark amateurs.
Posted by curious
Sunday 29th of April 2012 21:05:04
In 1996 all the Rutherglen primary schools took part in a competition to celebrate Glencairns centenary.The trophy was won by Bankhead Primary.With only seconds left in the final Burgh Primary were leading 1-0 when Bankhead got a cornerkick.The ball swung over and in stepped substitute David Anderson to net with about the last kick of the ball.There was a near riot mainly caused by parents protesting the ref had played over the time.Bankhead eventually triumphed after a penalty shootout.A few of the boys playing in this match went on to play professionally,Bob Davidson,Alan Trouten and probably a few others.Does anybody know if this trophy has anything to do with the Burgh Cup,could it be the same trophy?.
Posted by Glesga Kiss
Sunday 29th of April 2012 20:08:20
Playing for Fernhill Athletic in their first season in the late sixties was a tough introduction to amateur football for me.I learned the hard way how to take care of myself on the pitch.We were playing in the YMCA league at that point and there was a lot of dodgy places to visit.This was a time when gangs set out their territories pretty strictly so you couldn't travel through Glasgow without the fear of getting your head kicked in wherever you went.In fact the only way you were going to get in and out of Easterhouse alive [if you were lucky]was by playing one of the local teams.There was no official referees so you were more or less at the mercy of the local crowd[just as well we were naive back then].Anyway the story that comes to mind happened at the Glasgow Green we were up against St Lukes from Bridgeton a mean looking bunch of guys.Now in those days you could challenge the keeper when they could bounce the ball before kicking it upfield.So i'm standing in front of this guy,he goes left,so I go left,he goes right and I follow.This dance goes on for about half a minute when suddenly he looks me straight in the eye throws the ball into touch and sticks the head in me 'wallop' penalty and an early bath.The crowd at the side and his team mates did not take to kindly to this and they started to knock me all around the eighteen yard box from one to the other.I was well bruised and bloodied that night I can tell you.After things began to calm down up stepped our big half back 'The Beetle'still don't know how he got that nickname and belted the ball home.This was a painfull trick I used a few times again could have been the 'Drogba' of my time.
Posted by Old Sanny
Sunday 29th of April 2012 09:39:24
One of my memories from the 1960’s in Rutherglen was the start of season Rutherglen Glencairn versus Cambuslang Rangers game at Southcroft. I think it must have been a League Cup section game. Both were good teams and there was always a big crowd. The games were usually on a midweek evening in summer and the sun was still shining. Junior football was great then with lots of really fine players giving 100% effort. Those were the days when the committee men acted as linesman, and on occassions the flag went up for a “ biased “ decision, which always got a response from the crowd who were standing only a few feet behind the linesman. I remember the patter was great in the The Shed. ( the old metal enclosure at Southcroft ). I have not been to a Junior game in years, no idean what the local derby is like nowadays. I am sure lots of guys on this list must have always dreamed of playing for The Glens - anyone got any good memeories of the Juniors ?
Posted by Wayne Roo
Sunday 29th of April 2012 07:18:10
Some brilliant posts in the past week: (a). The Optimist and his Clyde story brought back loads of memories: I seem to remember at Shawfield that there was a big score board ( for the half time results ) and clock at the Rutherglen end of the ground. If you were watching a game at the Bridgeton end of the park in a big crowd you needed a pair of binoculars to see the players. Best pies in Scottish Football at the time. ( b). The question about St.Marks Boys Guild: yes I remember them.The team that I remember used to get ready for their games in the wee Church hall, which was half way up the big hill on the Main Rd. For some reason they played their home games over at the Queens Park Recreation pitches near the Victoria Infirmary. They also on occasions played their games at the pitch through the woods across from St.Marks : the pitch was between Castlemilk and Spittal. I think it was called the Scarrell pitch , but I maybe wrong. That was where I saw for the first time a player getting a broken nose on the pitch: one of the St.Marks guys was a but lippy with an opposition player who floored him with one punch. (c) The FRAY BENTOS PIE comment is just brilliant. (d). I would I like to read more thougths/comments/memories from THE DIVA, she sounds like a lady with a story to tell. I wonder what part of Rutherglen she (or he ? ) comes from ?
Posted by the optimist
Saturday 28th of April 2012 23:46:10
In 1967 when a lot of people were heading for San Francisco to join the hippies,free love and all that stuff,I only got as far as Shawfield to watch Clyde.I was only thirteen after all.It's not that I was even a Clyde supporter it was more I was getting in for free.I used to go down to the ground an hour or so before the match and help the guy who worked there let the wee blue invalid cars in.They used to park around the pitch back then.My mate had been doing this for the past season and asked me to help him so I jumped at the chance.Our payment for our hard work was a pie,a bovril and free entry unofficially of course.By coincidence that may have been the clubs greatest season ever 1966/67 finishing in third place behind the old firm in the old first division.Amazingly they had qualified for europe in the Fairs Cup[modern day Europa league]but some crazy rule stating one team per city meant Clyde were dumped in favour of Rangers who had already qualified in second place.It would have all been different had Rangers won the cup winners cup but the were narrowly beaten in the final.Had they won Clyde would be in europe as Rangers would be holders and automatically be in the same tournament,simple.Imagine it Ac Milan,Real Madrid or even Barcelona at Shawfield a mouth watering prospect indeed.But it was not to be.However my one season as a Bully Wee fan was memorable,huge crowds when the old firm showed up and some great football.Clyde also tried to pass themselves of as a Rutherglen club and not Glasgow but to no avail,still worth a try.All in all that season was great for Scottish football in general.Celtic had won the European Cup,Rangers were just beaten in their final and Kilmarnock had reached the semi final of the Fairs Cup never mind Scotland beating the world champions on their own patch.Maybe we can get back to that kind of form someday,lets hope so.As for myself that was my last season spent watching football at the weekend from then on I would be playing instead.My mates dad had decided with a few other people to start up a brand new amateur team in the area,Fernhill Athletic and that's where I would spent the next few years of my young life but that's an other story.
Posted by robb tompkinson
Saturday 28th of April 2012 21:08:59
Was reading the post on jim wylie....sad 2 c the lads suffering a bit....if its any consalation my old grandfather had the same problem and he came out the other side stronger...and he used 2 eat the tin as well.....jim was a fine footballer...we wish u well
Posted by the Maverick
Saturday 28th of April 2012 15:35:58
I liked the question below ( and answer) about Describe a Typical Rutherglen footballer ? – Here is my description: No angel : Got a temper : Capri driver in his youth : Hard trainer : Ultra competitive : Gallus : Snow, hail, rain, but the game must go on : Could play keep uppy with a tennis ball : Do anything for a game : Has a love affair for his local team : Prefers beer to wine : Never boasts : Liked to kick a ball around his street as a boy : Pride in a new pair of boots: Believes if someone kicks you then you kick them back : Cheery : Walks where angels fear to tread ( there are some tough places to play football in Glasgow ) : May be lapped by a team mate during a long pre season run around a track, but is still a wizard with a ball at his feet : a fetish for football : hates losing even in 5 a sides : Blood and Thunder when needed : Fast over 5 yards : Usually wears the number 4 or number 10 shirt if best player in the team : Thinks like Kenny Dalglish in his prime on the park : Aware of space and dimensions on every park big or small : Knows how to play a killer pass : Looks forward to a Saturday : Most modern footballers are quite predictable and 9 times out of 10 you know what they are going to do, but a Rutherglen player is unpredictable : Reads back page of the paper first, then page 3, but not the front page : No shinguards and often has socks as his ankles: Have boots and will travel anywhere for a game : Never carries a toiletries bag full of aftershave, hair gel, or deodrant into a dressing room – would get slaughtered : No stranger to a booking : Always plays with a smile on his face.
Posted by GAB
Thursday 26th of April 2012 20:48:38
I remember when I was about 8 years old(1964)I was playing marbles at the cellars at 2 neilvaig drive and my brother Ronnie was playing football in the street with Kenny Whitters when my cousin Jim Anderson and John Walker came over and joined them.At that point the police were coming along the avenue and Jim said in his infinite wisdom to keep playing as it would look worse if they stopped.The ball was kicked over to the cellars and my brother told me to kick it back just as the police were behind me .I was nearly in tears as the police started to take our names(kept thinking what my parents would say)my brother said I had not been playing with them and they eventually let me off.I knew at that early age never to listen to anything my cousin Jim said to me again.
Posted by Gulliver
Wednesday 25th of April 2012 19:26:20
I enjoyed the last few posts: it was Cooks garage that was on the winding road up the hill. It used to have big glass plate windows at the front and displayed motors for sale. Cannot remember what type, but maybe Ford Cortina’s or some other exotic cars. I think it also had some repair workshops behind the sales room. The Big White Houe also brought some memories : when I was about 6 or 7 years old I ran away from home. My first time out of Fernhill on my own I think ! Not sure how I ended up in the grounds of the White House , but I stopped for a rest. By this time my parents were going mental and had the search parties out. Anyway they found me: I was wearing 2 scarves, a duffle coat, and a Davy Crockett hat. My getaway gear. I was also carry my plastic football ! No idea where I was going, but I knew there would be a time when I wanted to kick a ball
Posted by Diva
Monday 23rd of April 2012 21:36:01
I surfed into this site and had a read at some of the comments from the WAGS. But if you really want to know what women think about football players have a look at www.kickette.com - I don't see any of Rutherglen's Greatest Players in the photo gallery on that site. Any reason why ?
Posted by mark st
Monday 23rd of April 2012 21:25:47
anyone remember st marks.....played out of fernhill...beat a good possil ym team to win league and cup...possil were run by a guy called bob dinney..possil also had hamilton accies current manager in the team,,,billy reid
Posted by GAB
Monday 23rd of April 2012 20:41:45
Dead right Colonel Bogey but It was actually a tennis court not a football pitch at Upper Bourtree and the house was run by the Church of Scotland.Also right about the Loch pitch it was the one behind the garage really poor drainage.I pressume because of the mound and the flooding the pitches were turned round to their present position.Also remember when I played another game at Loch back then on the same pitch with Cathkin United against Possil the match was abandoned it was virtually a riot.Both teams were reported to the league and we had to play both home and away at neutral grounds.Thankfully we came out on top to clinch the league
Posted by Colonel Bogey
Monday 23rd of April 2012 14:20:33
Does anyone remember a football park near the top of Upper Bourtree Drive many years ago ( the 1970’s ), or am I hallucinating ? - It was behind a big White House as you walk up the hill from Blairbeth and it was on the left hand side. I think it was a home for children with learning difficulties and was owned by a Church.
Posted by Colenel Bogey
Monday 23rd of April 2012 14:16:18
Re the post below about The Loch football pitch: is that the one that was always flooded even in summer? I think it was behind the Garage that used to be located on the left hand side of the tree covered zig zag road as you walk up from Burnside to Fernhill/Cathkin.
Posted by Burnie Stats Man
Sunday 22nd of April 2012 21:34:37
Picking up on a question asked back in march by Quiz Man about any centre halfs scoring hat tricks I see someone mentioned Fred McNab doing it with Gallowflat.I also see that Gordon Brown achieved this with 3 penalties against the German team in 1970 for Fernhill under 14s surely there are more centre halfs out there who we have forgotten about.Get the thinking caps on guys.
Posted by Man with a Moustache.
Sunday 22nd of April 2012 17:23:08
I was watching a game on telly today and a player lost his boot. The referee stopped the game and awarded a free kick to the opposition. ( A similar thing also happened in a recent Europe game with Manchester United. ). What is that all about ? When were we young and playing football in Rutherglen, if you lost a boot you just got on with the game. I don’t get it what this is all about. Can anyone explain to me why a lost boot stops a game ?
Posted by Hen Broon
Sunday 22nd of April 2012 09:33:01
Describe a typical Rutherglen footballer? When a Rutherglen baby boy is born he knows how to kick a ball: learning to walk comes later. Pride in playing with his local team team at least once in his career. Having life long friends through football. Magic with a ball at his feet. Thinks he has the patter of Billy Connolly and the looks of Georgie Best. Like to share his career highlights with the local bar maid. Always listens to his coach. The nigh before a BIG game he will be celibate and indulge in no alcohol shenanigans: if necessary wil lsend the wife ( or girl friend) to stay at her mothers. Cheeky, but respects referees. Likes a dribble. Plays with fire in his belly. Knows how celebrate in style after scoring a goal. Learns how to hit a Banana Kick from an early age. Never wears other team colours at training. Enjoys a beer or three. Reads the Roy of the Rovers Christmas Annual. Hard but fair. A loose connection to the brain sometimes. His feet understand what his brain tells then to do on a football pitch. A nice turn of an Anglo Saxon phrase when needed. Cantankerous if he gets beats. Like a joke and a laugh.Seems himself as a flawed genius. Just loves football and all the enjoyment it brings.
Posted by anonymous
Saturday 21st of April 2012 21:12:09
“ The best team always wins. The rest is just gossip. “ Quote from Jimmy Sirrel when he was manager of Notts County. He used to play football for the BB in Rutherglen.
Posted by old Sanny
Saturday 21st of April 2012 21:11:29
There would be more interest in football if there was more goals scored. My opinion is award 1 point for each goal scored. Instead of 0-0, or 1-1-, you are more likely to get 4-3, or 19 – 18, which is a good score and everyone would go home happy. No one wants to watch teams who play 4-4-2 or 4-5-1. Just play players who can play. That is what they did in the good old days when football was exciting. Do you agree?
Posted by Bashful Blonde
Saturday 21st of April 2012 21:05:32
The coach called one of his 10-year-old players aside at the Fernhill pitches and said, "Do you understand what co-operation is? What a team is?" Do you understand that what matters is whether we win together as a team? Do you know when a foul is given by the referee you don’t call him a big Diddy? And when I substitute you out of the game so another boy gets a chance to play, it is not good sportsmanship to call me a stupid eejit? Do you understand all this? The little boy nodded in agreement. "Good," said the coach. "Now go over there and explain all that to your mother
Posted by Fred The Shed
Saturday 21st of April 2012 20:22:30
What is the Perfect game of Football? To play in a game when the ball does not go out of play, and the score finishes 0-0, and there has not been one foul in the game. Probably never happen, but who knows. What is your idea of a Perfect Game ?
Posted by Zorba
Saturday 21st of April 2012 20:16:29
Walk into any pub in Rutherglen and if you know anything about football, you will never talk alone. If you know nothing, you can be even better company. You can be a good listener
Posted by Jackie Daniels
Saturday 21st of April 2012 20:10:02
One of the guys from our team was out for a quiet walk down the Main Street when he was accosted by a tramp, who asked him for some money to buy some food. Our mate in a true "good Samaritan". He gets out his wallet and taking out a tenner, he asked " If I give you this note, are you going to buy beer rather than food?" . " No! I gave up drink years ago", replied the tramp. "I simply need some money t to survive". "Are you going to spend the money on a football match, rather than buying food ?", asked the good Samaritan. "You're having a laugh. I used to support the Glens, but I haven't been to a match for more than 10 years ". “ Aha. Maybe you plan on spending the money on sex, instead of food", says our Samaritan. " What, and risk catching some disease just for £10. No way ", says the tramp. "All right", says our hero. "I'm not going to give you the money. Instead I'm taking you home for a slap-up dinner cooked by my wife". The tramp is confused. "But, your wife will be furious with you. I'm filthy and frankly stink" . To which our good Samaritan responds, " No, no. Don't worry it will be perfect. I simply want to show her what happens to a man who gives up beer, football and sex!"
Posted by Man of the House
Saturday 21st of April 2012 19:06:51
I think that last post may have been from my Mrs. I too have been reading a book : it was also written in 1913 by Blanche Ebbutt. It is called , “ Don’ts for WIVES”. - One of the things Blanche says is “ DO NOT NAG your husband. If he won’t carry out your wishes for love of you, he certainly won’t because you nag him “. I enjoyed my day out today and watched a few games of football on the telly in Rutherglen’s best sports pub and also had a few pints. That is what a Saturday is for. I also won a few quid on the bookies, and that paid for the Chicken Pakora. Just for the record, if any of the boys are reading this, I will be out tomorrow to watch the Man United game. As Blanche Ebbut also says in her book “ Do not Attempt to dictate to your husband an any subject. He won’ t stand for it and there may be trouble. But… “
Posted by Rutherglen WAG
Saturday 21st of April 2012 17:19:46
Hello, it has been a long time since I posted on the site but I wanted to share this little thought with all the men folk from Rutherglen who are football nuts. I was reading a nice wee book written in 1913 called “ Don’ts for Husbands”. It was written by Blanche Ebbutt. I think she was a lady way ahead of her time. She says: “ Do not give up on cricket, or football, or tennis, or rowing, or whatever outdoor sport you have been accustomed to, just because you are married. Athletics will keep you from becoming flabby. Of course, if you can get all the exercise you need in a game which your wife can share, so much the better; if not, she is not so selfish as to wish to deprive you of a healthy recreation. But remember your responsibilities. DO NOT OVERDO IT. “ Well let me tell you. My old man went out to watch some football today at 12 o’clock. He said he would be back after a few pints. It is now after 5pm and he still not come home.. What size of pints are they serving nowadays down in the pubs in Rutherglen? He is in Big T tonight and he had better bring me in a bag of chicken Pakora. If any of his drinking pals are reading this, just to let you know he will NOT be out to watch the football tomorrow.
Posted by Villaboy
Friday 20th of April 2012 19:50:14
On the Fernhill Villa post, got a few more names starting with John Jackson (Mr Villa) Gerry McGuigan, John McLaughlin, Chuckles McBride, Jamie Dunsmuir (what a finisher he was) Martin McGill , Think the Villa were started around 1983/84 ish by Haggie , Robbie Sturgeon and Big Dan Cowan, they were very successful throughout the Scottish Amateur League winning a stack of trophies culminating in the Premier Division title with Tam Bennett as manager round about 1996/97
Posted by the Golden Boot
Thursday 19th of April 2012 21:11:05
What is the Greatest Goal you have seen scored in a local game in a local pitch? For me, it was a goal scored by Stevie McKeown on the big park at Fernhill when he scored against a German team. He picked the ball up in his own penalty box, and played one-twos all the way up the park and then stroked the ball into the German net. It was some goal. There was big crowd that night and Steve got a big cheer. He was fine player: played a bit like that Iniesta chappie from Barcelona. He did not need to beat a player: he just passed his way around opponents and kept the ball moving.
Posted by GAB
Thursday 19th of April 2012 20:16:33
Does anyone remember when the Loch pitches in Springhall ran in the opposite direction back in the early 70s.I remember playing with Cathkin United against Glasgow Maccabbi and Jock told us the title could come down to goal difference with Possil as we were level on points.It was near the end of the match and we had rattled in 23 goals with no reply when one of the Maccabbi forwards finally got through(must have took our foot off the peddle for a second).Our keeper ran out the box and the player got by him and shot from 25yds. I kept running back chasing the ball and it must have been at least 2ft over the line and the forward was jumping up and down celebrating because they very rarely scored any goals all season.I caught up with the ball and just wellied it out for a throw in and the ref gave the shy.It suddenly dawned on me the ref couldnt see the ball going in as there was a mound just outside the box.The Maccabbi player was in tears it must have been his first goal all season only to be denied his moment of glory. did it make me feel bad the answer was no the title meant more.
Posted by Villa Man
Thursday 19th of April 2012 13:49:56
Aye the Villa had some cracking players over the years. Remember the Kennedy brothers, Jonesy, Hunter,Jammie,Raeburn,McColl,Sammy Lamont,A Big Goalie named Duncan Brown who was absolutely outstanding,Andy Graham,Gee Gee, Big Middy, Ronnie Esplin, Doc, Rab Kelly, Billie Campbell,Kenny McLean,Boab Thomson, Alan Fellowes ....... and many more that i have forgot !!!!!!!!!
Posted by rosco peeko
Monday 16th of April 2012 19:47:33
All the stories are about the fernhill athletic...but the villa were no a bad team on there day
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 15th of April 2012 23:54:57
Does anyone know when the last Burgh Cup final took place and what the score was.
Posted by accidental ned
Sunday 15th of April 2012 22:55:00
In the sixties down at the Fernhill shops right on the corner was Mario's cafe.It had a big high wall at the side where most nights in the summer up to about twenty or so guys would gather for a competition to see how many times you could keep the ball going against the wall without it touching the ground using only your head.This is a lot harder than you might think and if you weren't very good at it you ended up diving about like an idiot shouting and bawling.With all this noise going on nearly every night you can imagine the folk that lived above the shops were not to happy.One guy used to go mental and come down and threaten to wring our necks but we would be back again the next night regardless.So eventually the inevitable happened somebody called the law but that still didn't stop us we just had to change our tactics.We would place a lookout at the bus stop to watch for the Polis van coming up Fernhill Road and then scatter in all directions.Years later by pure chance I ended up working with the mad bloke who lived above the shops I never did tell him I was one of the wee guys who used to drive him nuts.
Posted by curious
Sunday 15th of April 2012 20:41:02
I know Fernhill Athletic played their very first match in June 1967 but does anybody out there have any idea when they played their last.
Posted by GAB
Sunday 15th of April 2012 15:38:41
Just wondering if anyone has any photos of the Fernhill Pavilion and pitches as they have all but gone now.I was driving by the day they were knocking down the pavilion and it dawned on me there were none on the gallery.For all the stories about Fernhill Athletic and its rise now the last traces have gone.
Posted by Guy Fox
Sunday 15th of April 2012 10:04:33
Excellent post against player " Jim Wylie ": Your on fine form these days. Posts have been excellent Sir ( or Madame ). - I put dowm my Sun on Sunday newspaper this morning to re-read your post. Good stuff for a Sunday morning. This is why I power up my PC and flip to this site to have a wee keek about who is saying what in the Rutherglen footballing Community. More power to your pen, memory amd imagination. When is your next post due ?
Posted by anonymous
Friday 13th of April 2012 23:58:15
As it's friday 13th here's a tale of bad luck at it's worst or just plain incompetence depending on your point of view.When I was playing for Fernhill Athletic one day in the late sixties we were awarded a penalty early in the game.I had taken about a dozen by this time and scored them all so I felt pretty confident.I allways hit them the same way low and hard to the keepers right so I thought if it's not broken why fix it.What I did'nt take in to account was the gale force wind blowing into my face.I hit it as hard as I could but it just seemed to float in mid air and the keeper saved it no problem.I was gutted my first ever miss but by pure chance I got a repieve,the ref ordered a retake as the keeper had moved to soon.I stepped up again and booted it even harder this time he just caught it like a balloon,I felt like a total dick.Any way it gets worse in the second half I missed an other one,that was my last for a while.Incredibly we got an other before the end and you guessed we missed it luckily I did'nt take that one.
Posted by The Doc
Friday 13th of April 2012 21:24:19
I have been surfing through some of the stories on the site. I like the comments about Harry Haddock. He must have been some player. I never realised that so many international footballers came from Rutherglen. - I think Harry and his family used to live down at the bottom of Calderwood Road. ( or in that area ).
Posted by Tick Man
Friday 13th of April 2012 21:19:48
It is the Grand National tomorrow. I still remember the buzz around the pitches in Rutherglen when the race had just finished. Who won was the shout from some of the players ? - As usual there was somebody who had bet the winner and won a few quid, and there was always someone who had lost their weeks wages on a certainty, and had to go home to face the wife/girl friend, etc. It was either that or borrow a few quid from a mate and head for a good drink down the Main Street.
Posted by the optimist
Thursday 12th of April 2012 20:13:03
Good to see the site is still alive and well even without the voting.The stories past and present are well worth preserving and the photo gallery is great.The site seems to have become in spite of its self a place to keep the Rutherglen football archives from disappearing of the face of the earth which can only be a good thing in my humble opinion.So here's to it keeping going in some form or an other.All the best to the web team.Keep up the good work it really is worthwhile.
Posted by Burnie Stats Man
Thursday 12th of April 2012 10:40:55
Not been on for a while but once again really enjoying the stories give us more, more,more everybody
Posted by conned
Sunday 08th of April 2012 21:26:02
Arguably one of the best of all the Fernhill athletic teams from the early years of the club has to be the under 18 side from the season 1969/70[this is the team pictured in the gallery].Winning the Scottish amateur first division and being narrowly beaten in the Scottish Cup final 2-1 at Firhill,almost an incredible double from a club in only it's third season sinch forming in 1967.The best memory I have from the time is the team talk given by the then managers George Campbell and John Clelland before taking on the mighty Drumchapel Amts on their on patch.They told us it was Drumchapel's opinion that our superior league position was a complete fluke and we did not deserve to be up sides with the likes of them.To this day I will never know if the both of them made this up off the top of their heads but it worked a treat.Every one of us walked on to that pitch feeling ten feet tall and proceeded to crush them 5-0 their heaviest defeat in many years.They were livid and it must have taken a week to wipe the smiles off our faces.A lot of the very best amateur sides from the time were put to the sword that season Eastercraigs,Queens Park and of course the above mentioned Drumchapel Amts to name but a few.Just a pity we did not pull of that double that would have been really special.
Posted by Cyclops
Sunday 08th of April 2012 19:54:10
There are some great photos on the Gallery of this site: over 90 pictures: Wonderful stuff. I think it is important to record our local football stories, but also a picture can paint a thousand words. I am sure every reader of this site has some good photos tucked away in a family photo album or in that old wooden trunk in the garden shed. The photo I would lke to see is the first team to win the Burgh Cup or the mega colour mural that was on the wall within Chapmans pub.
Posted by GAB
Saturday 07th of April 2012 15:43:42
Was checking the Reformer archives a couple of months ago when i played centre half for Fernhill back in 1970.It shows some great results back then we beat Celtic B.C 7-0 at home drew 4-4 with Drumchapel Amts at home also remember a game on the top pitch against Dennistoun Waverley(who someone was asking about below)we were 6-0 up at half time with the wind in our favour turned round and it was like defending the ALAMO they threw everything but the kitchen sink at us we ended up holding on for a draw .Played with some super players back then Billy Docherty,Jamie Martin,Benny Quinn and Chic Doris. The results show how much work the coaching staff had done in a short period of time with a new club to compete with the big boys of amateur football. Hats off to all the staff back then.
Posted by Roy of Ruglen
Saturday 07th of April 2012 10:14:51
What did I learn from playing football in Rutherglen? I learned if you had a ball you had pals. I learned never to do a slide tackle on the black ash park at Overtoun. I learned never to take a cold drink out of the old copper tap in the Spittal park changing rooms, unless you wanted the runs and a sick week off school. I learned that I learned more on a football park than in a school classroom. I learned that you had to be nice to referees. I learned that Rutherglen was full of really good footballers: every team had someone to admire. I learned that you had to practice daily with a ball or get left behind and not get a game for your team. I learned that talking to optimists about football is better than listening to pessimists. I learned that everyone who played in an amateur or school team owe a lot to the people who organised the games – they are unsung heroes. I learned that when someone kicks you, the best answer is to stick the ball in the pokey. I learned that you only improve if you play against better players. I learned how lucky I was to be given a football at Christmas, Birthday, etc, and not something that would have kept me indoors. I learned that there is always disappointments when playing football, but he ho there you go. I learned that in a football dressing room there is no hiding place. I learned that it was important to polish my football boots before a game. I learned that what is said or happens in a dressing room, stays there. I learned it was important to accept the outstretched handshake of an opponent at the end of a game. I learned everyone makes mistakes at some time in a big game – shit happens. I learned that when you are young football is for enjoyment and there is no need for an overdose of tactics from the experts at the side of the park shouting like banshees. I learned never to fall out with the guy on out street who owned the ball. I learned how important it was to help a team mate if he was having a bad game. I learned it is hard to beat the drama and excitement of a good football game, even if it is on your local street – this is where I learned that I like winning. I learned that waking up on a Saturday morning knowing that I had three games of football to play over the weekend was a great way to live. I learned I love football. I am sure there is more, but my wife has just told me to get aff the computer and go down to Warnock’s the Butcher for the sausages and bacon. Some things never change on a Saturday morning.
Posted by GAB
Saturday 07th of April 2012 00:56:13
Jack the giant killers story below brought back memories of a game i played in 1970-71 with Cathkin High.It was away against Calder St of Blantyre.They had two players who stood out in the team one was called John Dowie who at that time was an S- form with Celtic and im sure he represented Scotland at shoolboy level.The reason i remember John was when i represented Cathkin High at the Lanarkshire trials that year with Billy Docherty and Willie McPheat the guy in charge asked what position i was in for and i said left half he just iooked at me and said do you know your up against Dowie i said im just here to enjoy the day dont spoil it before it starts. John was a terrific player. Anyhoo back to the original story. We were winning 3-2 and thought we were going to hold on but the left back a guy nicknamed Herman he was huge(i pressume it came from the tv show the munsters)was taking a by kick and our keeper was on the edge of the box(you can guess whats coming).He just wellied his kick with the wind behind it 3-3 full time end of story
Posted by old man river
Friday 06th of April 2012 23:35:34
I have to agree with the post below from GAB about growing up in Fernhill 'The football capital of Scotland'if you didn't play the beautiful game back then you had no mates and you might as well have stayed home and watched Coronation Street with your mum.Fernhill in the early sixties had one great thing going for it,wide open spaces.Right across the road from the shops on Fernhill Road before the red ash pitches and pavilion were built was a huge expanse of green field stretching all the way over to Blairbeth.All during the school summer holidays it would be jam packed with people playing football on the old slope on the side of the hill or round the big peat hole or on the flat top near Neilvaig Drive.I moved to Fernhill in 1961 and can still remember sitting on the bare floor boards as a seven year old in my house in Galloway Drive watching tv.I had as yet no pals and was outside playing with a small ball kicking it against the wall one day when a young guy showed up from nowhere and proceeded to teach me the rules of heedy fitba between two lamp posts for goals and my football career was up and running.
Posted by HeadtheBall
Friday 06th of April 2012 20:22:00
Three good photos have been loaded onto the Photo Gallery: 1. Two fans of the Spittal school team at the 1966 Burgh Cup Final. 2. The Bankhead team from 1966 Burgh Cup Final. 3. A young Bobby Murdoch with his school team in the play ground in mid 1950's. Good Stuff.
Posted by Roy
Friday 06th of April 2012 19:12:48
The last few posts have been excellent. Respect to " Jack the Giant Killer", " GAB " , " 1950's Stunt Man, and " The Optimist ". That is why this is a good site to dip into. There is always something different. No idea how you guys can remember so much detail. Keep Scribbling.
Posted by Jack the giant killer
Friday 06th of April 2012 00:00:44
In the mid sixties while playing for Gallowflat school we came up against Glenwood Sec from Castlemilk they had a guy playing for them we used to call Big Joe. He was a monster who looked about seven feet tall and made us all look like hobbits.Every time they took a goal kick their goalkeeper would let him take them and he would proceed to launce the ball like a missile right into our six yard box it was total panic every time he did this.He roamed about the park like a giant predator with blood on his lips,our whole team were terrified.We ended up getting hammered 7-3 not to bad under the circumstances.Later that year when we turned up to play them on their own pitch inside their school we expected more of the same only ten times worse, we could only hope he would not show up.When we walked out,no luck there he was looking like Godzilla waiting for his dinner.The gods of football must have been looking down on us that day because Big Joe was there allright at least in body but he must have left his brain at home he was pure crap.I do not think I have ever seen anybody play so bad even his own team were having a go.I came away feeling sorry for the poor guy he looked like a big sad gentle giant.Incredibly we won the game 7-2 which only goes to show it's a funny old game.
Posted by GAB
Wednesday 04th of April 2012 23:43:04
Best memories as a kid growing up in Fernhill was living at 2 Neilvaig Drive next to the pitches when they were just built.Even if nobody else was out i would be over practising penalties,corners and free kicks. It was really tiring going after the ball all the time but worth it.Then bodies would just keep appearing and before long it would be 15 a side.When Fernhill Ath started up with different age groups the pavilion still wasnt built.Some weeks you would have two teams at home and all four teams would change in George Campbells lock up behind the shops.Life got even better with sunday football because it meant i could play for Academy on A saturday morning,Fernhill in the afternoon and Cathkin United on a sunday afternoon.Even joined the BB when i was younger when i heard they were starting a team and went for the trials at Cathkin Braes(Before the pitches were built).That team never happened got out quick.Looking back think they were trying to lure us in(no footy no lickky).Back then you lived and breathed football.Can you remember playing barrie first to 21 won.You could use your foot,knee,shoulder or head to hit the bar(obviously no hands).Best i ever seen hitting the bar from distance was Alan Hutcheon he could do it shot after shot.Great memories
Posted by Tony
Monday 02nd of April 2012 19:34:02
Here is a question for you: do you know the player ( a goalkeeper ) who Borussia Dortmund were keen to sign ? Here is a clue: his Dad still drinks in Chapmans, and usually sits at the bar near the telly at weekend when there is a football game on.
Posted by The Cat
Monday 02nd of April 2012 19:32:54
When I was young most people would chip in a penny or two to buy a football if a ball was needed. Sometimes it was the local football diddy who owed the ball. You did not want him in your team, but if you had a ball then you were a popular guy. The 2 shops I remember who sold a football were Johnnies in Gallowflat Street and Allan’s in Fernhill shops.
Posted by Don
Monday 02nd of April 2012 19:30:21
Re post below: Danny Carr was a good player. OK he picked up a few yellow cards, but he could play: he was an overlapping right back. He played for a number of local team but his tough tackling was not appreciated by the men in black with the whistle, and Danny moved on and played with Coatbridge YM. Danny attracted the attention of Senior scouts and was invited down to play at Sunderland. Not sure what happened, but he never took up this offer.
Posted by 1950's Stunt Man
Monday 02nd of April 2012 08:37:00
One of Roberts ( see player profile Rab Thomson ) many wigs is on display at Rutherglen Town Halls 80s memorabilia exhibition......Also include are Jim Wylies pink new romantic Raincoat......Terrs Simon Le Bon underpants.........Davie Lloyds hair straighteners.......Paul McColls old nose.........A photograph of Martin Grants mullet hairstyle.........Three of Danny Houstons fingers.........Tam Bennetts Savoy season ticket ..........Rab Kellys Mexican moustache...........One of Terry Frews team talks..........Graeme Gallaghers first Tan..........Bob Frews joke book........One of Dick Mclaughlins tackles (not for kids)...........A photograph of Paul Harvey at the bar..........Eddie McCallums first Ironing Board............a photo of John Bennett sporting moustache AND hair............and 3 of Danny Carrs 2331 yellow cards.........This exhibition is on for one day only ..........today!
Posted by the optimist
Sunday 01st of April 2012 22:05:40
I think most people would agree that Scottish football is in a pretty bad way just now.When was the last time we produced a really world class player like Denis Law or King Kenny.In the 60's and 70's all the top English sides Man Unt Arsenal and Leeds were full of Scots.You would have to look very hard to find the likes in the current premier league.There is a lot of talk about the game failing at grass roots level,this is all very well but how do you fix it.When I was growing up in the sixties you were playing football every spare minute of the day but more importantly you practised on your own to improve your skills,maybe there is to many distractions now.Up until you got into the school team there were no organized games no strips or decent pitches,you played anywhere there was enough light to see and any kind of ball would do.It was always competitive no matter the score 15-15 or 15-0.Being competitive is not about winning cups,in my opinion it's about learning to improve even if you have to take some hard knocks on the way.Also it's not always about skill more about playing to your strengths and knowing your limits but limits to be transcended with practice.Maybe we have confused our young players by teaching them to be non competitive when we are not sure what we mean ourselves.One of the major problems could be the presence of parents at games involving younger age groups.We could play games for hours without our mothers and fathers breathing down our necks,you don't need that kind of pressure when your that age.The only pressure was the kind you put yourself under to improve and become a better player by playing against those as good as you or better.I am sure the more under privileged countries in the world still produce players the old way but we have to find a way of recovering that spirit along with the modern approach of football academies to get ourselves back where we belong.
Posted by man in a suitcase
Sunday 01st of April 2012 18:35:26
Re post below about the team from Spittal in the late sixties,I am fairly sure they were called Glenroyal and not Royal Glen as said.Can anyone back me up on this.I played against them many times for Fernhill Athletic.Their striker Davie McGinlay was a great player and should have been on the player list.I think he also played for Rutherglen Academy.In my opinion to many fine local players from this period are missing from the list,maybe it's to long ago as we are all pushing sixty now and think a laptop is some kind of dance.
Posted by GAB
Sunday 01st of April 2012 18:24:22
Wonder if anyone remembers the tree that use to ovarhang the pitch when you went to play at John Ogilvie school.On the numerious times we played there with Rutherglen Academy the ball would get stuck in the tree from throw ins or free kicks.Certainly disrupted the game now and then but also gave you something to laugh about.
Posted by sour grapes
Friday 30th of March 2012 21:37:37
Re post below Gallowflat under 15's did not lose to St Margaret Mary's in the 1967 Scottish cup it was in fact Bellshill Acd away.With the game drawn at 2-2 after 90mins the Gallowflat team left the field expecting a replay at home only to be called back by the ref who said there would be extra time.After a protest they agreed to play on and eventually lost 4-2.Even after all these years I still feel we were robbed of a chance to reach the quarter final.Still that's football I suppose.
Posted by Zuko
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:40:24
In 1966 a teenager was fined ten shillings at Rutherglen Police Court whne he admitted playing football in the street. He was one of three youths playing football in Queen Street near the Railway station. The court Bailie said to him, “ You run the risk of breaking a window or hitting someone when you kick a ball in the street “. The death of street football was coming.
Posted by Rab Burns
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:39:55
In the late 60’s four boys from Springhall, Joseph Mitchell, James McLoughlin, John McLuskey and Danny McLoughlin gathered a petition of 193 local signatures asking the Count Council to build then a football park in Springhall ( Lochbrae Drive ). Joseph said “ We cannot go anywhere for a game of football. If only the schools were left open during the holidays, we could play in the playground and not annoy anyone. Even if we go to Cathkin Park, the Park Ranger chases us “. – Does anyone remember the cage that was build for football in Springhall ?
Posted by Tommy Tucker
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:39:20
In season 1966 Avoca scored an average of 6 goals a game. They were Rutherglen’s Greatest team in my opinion.
Posted by Sticky Fingers
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:38:20
Re post below about the Burgh Cup Final in 1966. Spittal beat Bankhead 3-1. The goals were scored by Billy Docherty ( 2) and Brown ( 1). Bankhead scored with a Cockburn penalty after Andrew Cheek brought down Aitken. Spittal fans invaded the park at the end of the game to celebrate the school win.
Posted by Lee
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:37:45
Re post below: Joe Hughes ( the Glens manager ) lived in Galloway Drive in Fernhill. He was also an ex Glens player. He was a fine manager for a really good Glens team.
Posted by Ernie
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:36:22
In the 1960’s Jim Forrest was a star with Glasgow Rangers. Not sure if he was a local lad, but he married a local girl in the Fernhill and Cathkin church. Jim was a fine footballer.
Posted by Jimmy Mac
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:35:49
Re comments about Avoca being a hard team to beat. There was a period in the 1960’s when three of their players suffered fractures and were all in plaster at the same time. Amateur football was tough then, not like nowadays if someone touches you on the shoulder players fall down. In the 60’s if you went down, you bounced straight back up and wanted the next tackle with the opposing player
Posted by Jay
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:34:15
Re post below about football Parks: The cost of building the 3 football parks at Fernhill plus a running track was £500,228 ( excluding the Pavilion ). Good value for money I think for the 1960’s. It was always a shame about the drainage on the Big park.
Posted by Big Ollie
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:33:50
In the 1960’s local teams Blairbeth and St.Andrews played in an annual Charities match at Southcroft. The proceeds from the gate money went to Rutherglen Old Age Pensioners. The trophy they played for was displayed in Greenshields Mens Shop on the Main Street.
Posted by Fun Bob
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:32:30
There is a lovely wee book called “ Home Town Tales “ by Dorothy Ellen Connor who came from Rutherglen. Although there is nothing specific about football, it describes life in Rutherglen. For example, it talks about the bomb raids in World War two and the loss of life ( Stonelaw Rd/Dryburgh Avenue). Also about how local people feared night time raids and the aeroplane dog fights high in te hsky near the railway lines. If you are interested in local history, very nice book.
Posted by Magnus
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:31:50
Re earlier post about “ Parkglen “. – I think they were a Chess team and not a football team. Hope this helps.
Posted by Jojo
Friday 30th of March 2012 14:30:35
In the mid 1960’s Glencairn had a player named Roy Millar. It was said he could play keepy uppy and keep the ball in the air 3,000 times. Celtic also had a young player named George Connolly who entertained the crowd ( 64,000 ) at Celtic Park at the European Cup game against Russian Champions Dynamo Kiev. It was said George could keep the ball up in the air 2,000 times with his amazing ball control. The Glens committee were keen to have an “ Unofficial Scottish Keepy Uppy Championship “, between the two players, but it never happened
Posted by Goldie
Thursday 29th of March 2012 09:51:39
Sometimes if the weather was bad and we could not train outside, we used to go to Rutherglen Baths for a swim and a sauna. Training in water was tough. ( I think the first person ever to dive into the pool when the Baths were open in late 1960’s was champion swimmer Bobby McGregor: ( he was a world champion swimmer ). The second guy ( I think ) was a guy named Jim Fairfield who lived in Neilvaig Drive )
Posted by Pickles
Thursday 29th of March 2012 09:47:51
In 1967 a new team was formed named Blairbeth Royal.( 16-19 age group) for the Glasgow Amateur league. The purpose was to give the boys from the Blairbeth scheme an opportunity to play football
Posted by Baldy Bain
Thursday 29th of March 2012 09:46:51
Someone asked in an earlier post if a centre half has ever scored a hat trick. The answer is YES. Gallowflat school ( under 15’s ) beat Kings Park Secondary 9-2 in a Scottish Cup game in 1967. Centre half Fred McNab scored 3 goals in that game. The other scorers were Caldwell (3), Anderson (1) Cleugh (1) and Rankine. I think they then lost 7-0 to St.Margaret Mary’s school in the next round.
Posted by Eric
Thursday 29th of March 2012 09:46:06
Re the last post about Spittal Royal Glen. They had a forward named Dave McGinlay. He could bang in the goals. He once scored all 4 goals in a 4-4 draw with St.Benedicts.
Posted by rrrrrr
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 22:36:23
does anyone remember st marks boys guild...great wee team
Posted by Cyril
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 20:42:56
A local derby in the late 1960’s was Fernhill against Spittal Royal Glen. The last one I know about was 5-2 for Fernhill. Goal scorers were Anders ( 2) and George ( 3). . The team was Campbell, Cleugh, Mullen, McGeachen, McNab, Walker, Armstrong, George, Anderson, Rankin, Norman.
Posted by John
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 20:41:38
In the mid 1960’s Tommy McGuire and Ian McGuigan ( both who came from Spittal ) played for St.Marks primary team and also represented Glasgow schools in the Wilson Trophy. This was a great achievement for these players as hundreds of players from other schools had been put forward by their schools for consideration. Surprised both these players did not receive more votes during the voting for Rutherglen’s Greatest Player team.
Posted by Memory Man
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 16:29:28
In October 67 Fernhill played Garthamlock again away in the league. It was 4-4 with a minute to go when Armstrong scored the winner. These 2 teams must have been sick of the sight of each other. The other goal scorers were Anderson ( 2) and George (2 ).
Posted by Arthur
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 16:28:37
In the 1960’s Bobby Hall looked after the snack bar ( pie and Bovril ) at the back of the old wooden stand at Glencairn’s Soutcroft Park. He joined the Glens shortly after World War Two. He was a good servant to the Glens. He was also involved with the Rutherglen Old Parish team that won the Scottish Churchs Cup in the 1930’s.
Posted by Fitzy
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 16:27:59
In the mid 1960s Glencairn issued a stern warning to youngsters to stop running onto the Southcroft Park at half time. At the last home game about 300 boys had a bounce game and chased the plastic ball from end to end, while the crowd cheered them on. The Glens officials came on to grab the ball, but could not get near it. Does anybody remember Francey who used to help out at Southcroft ? He used to walk around the park at half time with the chalk board showing who had won the raffle. I cannot remember what had happened to him, but he had no nose: just two wee holes in the centre of his face. Anyways, the Glens officials did not want the youngsters to damage the turf, which was regarded as one of the best playing surfaces in the Junior Central League
Posted by Boab
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 16:27:15
In October 1967 Senior team scouts from England were starting to take an interest in some players of the Fernhill team. Once again Fernhill beat Garthalmlock 4-0, but this was a much tighter game than before. ( why did Fernhill and Garthamlock play against each other so often ? ). The goal scores were George (2 ) and Anderson (2). The following week Fernhill beat the Gorbals Crossroads team 5-0 at the Glasgow Green: this game was played in impossible conditions, with gales and heavy rain. The goal scorers were Anderson ( 3 ) and George (2 ). Centre half Fred McNab suffered a sore face in this game: he collided with an opponent and suffered a cracker of a black eye
Posted by Johnny
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 16:26:36
Did you ever play in a primary school team when one of your mates could not tie the laces on his boots ? The teacher had to put the boots on !
Posted by Huggy Bear
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 16:26:09
In the winter of 1967 the new football pitches and running track at Fernhill were under 6 inches of water after freak storms. The local kids were out playing in the puddles and building mud pies on the pitches. A local Mum said, “ It is damned awful. They do not need to go to a swimming pool in Rutherglen as they now have one here ! “. The big metal fence all around the fields was also causing some concern. It was designed to keep small children out, but they have found a way in. The skinny ones could slip through the metal bars, and others could climb over with the help of their pals. – Drainage was always a problem at Fernhill on the big park.
Posted by Smithy
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 16:25:27
In October 67 the Fernhill under 16 team beat Garthamlock 16-2 in the quarter final of the League Cup. The goal scorers were Rankin ( 7 ), Anderson (3 ), George ( 3), Armstrong (2 ) and Norman. In 5 games so far the team from Fernhill have scored 42 goals and lost 15. They are the team to watch
Posted by Memory Man
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 16:24:43
In the summer of 1967 the Cathkin Gala Week Cup was won by St.Anthony’s primary school. They beat Cathkin primary 10-2 in the final. The Ants team was : McLuskey, Dunnery, Jackson, Burns,,McLauchlin, Mulvenny,Boyle, Mackie, Jones, Mullin, McLauchlin, sub: Monaghan. The Cathkin team was : McGregor, Brawley, Stevenson, Renaud, Campbell, Brown, Fulton, Innes, Stanage, Irvine, McAuslane, Sub: Martin. The trophy was donated to the Cathkin Association by Robert Kelly who was the chairman of Celtic. ( he lived locally in Burnside ).
Posted by Joe
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 13:47:30
Can anyone remember if there was ever a football pitch in Carmunnock ? I seem to remember there was, but I cannot recall who played on it. Thanks
Posted by Ned
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 13:46:48
Does anyone remember the “ Spot the Ball “ photo competition that teams used to gather funds for their club ? Do you know anyone who ever won ? Put your X here - 5 tries for a shilling.
Posted by Munchie
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 13:45:43
In September 1967 Fernhill Athletic under 16’s beat Barlornock Rob Roy 6-2 in their League Cup debut. This game was played at the Blairbeth Park at the bottom of the big hill leading up to Fernhill. There was a large local crowd at the game. Does anyone remember why the game was played at Blairbeth ? The Fernhill goal scores were George, Norman (3) and Anderson (2).
Posted by Silver Surfer
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 13:35:11
More memories: New football boots. Stealing golf balls up the Blairbeth golf course , hiding in the bushes, and listening to the golfers in tartan trousers going mental for their lost balls. The incredible views from the top of Fernhill over Rutherglen and Glasgow on a clear day - magic.The farm in the Varney estate behind Fernhill where the chickens used to run about. Picking brambles where you could find them. My first crush on a beauty from Fernhill – I wonder what happened to her ? Going out to play in the morning and didn't come home until you were starving hungry. Green fields, parks, open spaces, a football and Sunshine. Peasouper fog in the winter but it never stopped you playing football. Playing football 8 hours a day was no problem. 10-21 game before there was a winner – the games got tense when the score got to about 19 each. There would be no draw. The mobile grocery van. Insurance Man and his wee book on a Friday night. Nutters on roller skates. Rope swings on trees across the burn at Blairbeth woods. A cup of sugar from the neighbour if you needed it. Kick the Can, Chap Door run away. Phones using old soup cans across the back on a rope wire worked by hand. Smell of dung when local gardeners were planting their roses. Playing in the burn. Everybody ( boys and girls ) played out until 10 and 11 at night during the summer holidays and were safe to do so. The funny guys, the trouble makers, the smokers, the dancers. Going to the shops for my Dad’s Askit on a Saturday morning. Move from living up a close to a house with a back and front door. Jehovah’s Witnesses coming to door. Jam jars and bees and butterflies and tadpoles. Dreaming of winning the Littlewood football pools with 8 draws.The key to the house on a string behind the letter box to let yourself in after school. Mums and Dads not knowing what their teenage kids were up to during the day when they were at work. Cows in the fields around Fernhill. Water fights in the summer. The school jannie. Walking up Fernbrae Avenue looking for chestnuts. Ice on the inside of the bedroom windows. Postal Oders. The kitchen pulley for drying clothes. The wringer. Under floor central heating – amazing. Dreaming of scoring a goal. Alpine ginger from the van. Bare chested pot bellied Dads playing football with their sons and passing on the football skill genes. Rhubarb everywhere. Knocks on the door at Halloween and weans dress as their favourite Celtic or Rangers player. Throwing bangers up the close. Nights out in the tent. Money for empty ginger bottles. The best garden in the street and if your ball went in it, then it was lost forever. Jam sandwiches. Friendships that last a lifetime. But best of all was the football memories and characters.
Posted by Ned Kelly.
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 13:31:12
When Big John Daly was manager of Avoca, he used to write a report every week on every players performance. He also gave you marks out of 10. He would pin it up on the wall board in the dressing room. E,G. Goalkeeper: A.Mcgurk - tremendous display. 8. - Sweeper J.Coyle. MAN OF THE MATCH PERFORMANCE. the ball was drwan to him like a magnet.9. - If you got 5 or less then maybe you would not be playing the next game. John was very honest with his players, but as far as I remember he never used swear words or foul language. ( although he could cut you in two with honest feedback ). John was a school teacher. Unfortunately he died at a young age in his 40's. What a loss to local football.
Posted by the Jannie
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 13:24:08
In the 1960s two boys were fined ten shillings ( which was a lot of money then ) for playing football in the Burgh school playground when the school was closed. Neighbours in the tenements complained and the police told the boys to leave. The boys left, but a little while later when the cops were gone, they sneaked back in. Unfortunately for them, the beat cops were soon back again also. Ten bob for a game of fitba was a lot of pocket money. Do you know who thse footballers were ?
Posted by Fudge
Wednesday 28th of March 2012 13:20:04
Avoca lost their 3 year unbeaten home record at the Overtoun Park in September 1967 when Ruchill Church team beat them 3-1. Avoca then lost another 4 games in a row. Football is a funny old game. Around about this time Billy McLaren made his comeback. He was a tough aggressive player who came from the Spittal (I think ). Billy went on to become a top manager with Senior teams including Hamilton Accies and Queen of the South.
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 27th of March 2012 19:26:33
1966 Burgh Cup winners
Posted by Barney
Tuesday 27th of March 2012 13:25:43
In the late 1780’s a man named Joseph Payne had a cock fighting pit next to Rutherglen Bridge. ( I think it is now called the Dalmarnock Bridge. ). He had sixteen fighting cocks. In later years there was also a football pitch near here. See http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gordon.adams1/GlasgowHistory/Recollections.htm - “ There was a large meadow on the river bank to the east of the bridge, which was let to cowfeeders for grazing their cows. It was free to the public, but, alas! the best part of it is now enclosed for a football club, and the rest filled up with rubbish. This meadow was very much abused by roughs from the town and Calton during the summer months. Every Monday they came in thousands and had prize fights either by men or dogs, and sometimes both; but this was put a stop to by the powers that be. “ - Does anyone remember a pitch down there and who played on it ?
Posted by Tex
Monday 26th of March 2012 15:03:47
Did anyone ever play in the Boy Brigade Summer Cup tournament at the Overtoun Park in the mid 1960’s ? - Who did you play for the 96 or 209, or 228 ?
Posted by Mr.McZephyr
Monday 26th of March 2012 15:03:17
The Greatest team from Rutherglen may have been the Glens team that won the Scottish Cup in 1939: Gilliespie, Whitelaw, Nicol, Geddes, Whiteford, J.Clark ( captain), McCallum, McVey, J.F.Clark, Beattie and Campbell
Posted by Budgie McGhee
Monday 26th of March 2012 15:02:33
Did any local teams go on trips abroad to play ? ( I seen the earlier post on this site that the Academy F.P team went to France. ) I also remember Fernhill Athletic went to Cologne in Germany in the early 1970’s to play an international tournament. Also a team called Castlemilk amateurs went to Spain for 14 days. Any more trips ?
Posted by Archie Begg
Monday 26th of March 2012 15:01:59
Does anyone remember a team called Dennistoun Waverley ? They played at Haghill Park I remember going there as a nipper, but can anyone advise if Haghill was a grass or ash pitch ?
Posted by Jimmy Pye
Monday 26th of March 2012 15:01:26
There is a book called the “ Rutherglen Lore “ that was written in the 1920’s by W.Ross Shearer. Over 300 pages about Rutherglen. It talks about people like Jock Airey who was the town’s’ bellman and Lamp Lighter, and J.A.Wallace the gold mining speculator who went to find his fortune and named a town “Rutherglen” in Victoria. But nothing about football - I wonder why ?
Posted by Shoulders
Monday 26th of March 2012 15:00:53
Does anyone know if the St.Columkilles Boys Guild team in the mid 1960’s won the Delaney Cup or the Hannigan Cup ? There was a lot of good players in their team: Lang, McAllister, D’Arcy, Tortalani, Airens, Forbes, Murray, Graham, McGinley, Timoney, McGahey
Posted by Jack Whiskey
Monday 26th of March 2012 15:00:22
In the 1967 twenty five local amateur teams backed a petition signed by 3,000 local people about the Councils plan to sell the recreation grounds at Overtoun Park to the Western Regional Health Board. Unfortunately the objection failed and the football pitches were lost for ever
Posted by Babyface
Monday 26th of March 2012 14:59:45
Ruglonian men take footballer seriously. Do you know of any players who got Married in the morning and played for his team in the afternoon ? Surely no one would leave his new bride while he swanned of and played football and then went for a few beers with his pals before going back to the Reception ? I'm getting married in the morning! Ding dong! The bells are gonna chime happily
Posted by Shorty
Monday 26th of March 2012 14:58:01
Avoca was the best team from Rutherglen. They played at the Overtoun Park and were unbeaten at home for at least 3 years. ( 1964 –1967). They lost a lot of their top players who emigrated to Canada . The bus to away games used to leave about 1 o’clock from Kirkwood Street. I remember exotic locations like Minishant ( Ayrshire), Barrhill ( Greenock), and Viewfield Rovers ( Lochwinnoch.).Avoca were some team.
Posted by the Quizman
Monday 26th of March 2012 14:57:03
Does anyone know anything about a team called Rutherglen United who played in the Glasgow YMCA league in the 1960’s ? Or anything about a team called Parkglen ?
Posted by Kris
Monday 26th of March 2012 14:56:33
In the mid 1960’s the Rutherglen Academy F.P Club was invited to play in a football tournament in Brittany, France. This was at the invite of the publishers of a well know French Football Magazine called “ Miroir du Football “. The F.P, trainer was teacher Ian Leonard. They played two games and were undefeated – winning one and drawing the other in a tri team competition. They did Rutherglen proud. Do you know anyone who played in that team and has any stories from the trip abroad ?
Posted by Winston
Monday 26th of March 2012 14:55:52
If you key the words “ rutherglens greatest player “ into Google it comes back with over 100 responses. Looks like there is also a place called Rutherglen in Victoria, Australia, and also a Rutherglen near Lake Nipissing in Ontario, Canada. But it looks like Rutherglen Glasgow has much better football (soccer ) players.
Posted by Hugh Jarse
Monday 26th of March 2012 14:54:52
I liked some of the comments below from the Silver Surfer: he was right about the telephones. There was no great telephone facilities in the schemes in the 1960’s. I seem to recall there was a telephone kiosk on Fernhill Road where I lived. ( but my memory may be playing tricks on me ). I think the plan was that everyone should have access to a phone within a half mile radius from their home. The phone was a great thing to have: it made the business of Match Secretary’s easier, and allowed managers to “ tap” players from other teams. ! – the phone was also good to check what was on the Rio picture house ( phone Rutherglen 4544 ) or the Odeon ( phone Rutherglen 6819 ), or if you wanted to book a haircut in Desi Divers barbers in Regent Street ( Rutherglen 6601). Desi’s always shut at one o’clock on a Saturday as he used to like to go and watch a football match on a Saturday afternoon
Posted by Benny
Monday 26th of March 2012 14:53:42
I enjoy reading about Rutherglen and the stories local footballers are contributing to this site. It is refreshing to hear people being so positive about Rutherglen football and the players. The memories are great. Still drive around sometimes looking into the nostalgic past ( Cathkin, Fernhill, Spittal, Main Street, Burnside, etc etc ). People are the salt of the earth. Great place to grow up. I would not change living in Rutherglen for anything. Very proud to say I came from the Royal Burgh. Looking forward to reading more football stories: no idea who the contributors are to this site , but got to admire your ability to recall so many details. Keep scribbling.
Posted by Ian
Monday 26th of March 2012 13:24:44
Joe Hughes was the manager of the Glencairn team that reached the final of the Scottish Junior Cup in 1967. He was also the hamper boy when the Glens won the Cup in 939. ( just before the outbreak of World War 2 ).
Posted by Jinty McGinty
Monday 26th of March 2012 13:22:48
In the summer of 1967 the St.Marks primary school team kept up the schools proud tradition of having a football trophy on display in the school cabinet every since the school opened. The tradition was ensured when the team beat St.Bonaventure 6-1 to win the Dolan Shield. The team was: Hampson, McKeown, McFarlane, Harvey, Gray, Bennett, P.Anderson, McGuire, D.Anderson, McGuigan, McCallum.
Posted by Quiz Man
Monday 26th of March 2012 13:20:56
Does anyone know if any player from Rutherglen has scored a hat trick of headers in a game ? Or does anyone know if a Centre Half has ever scored a hatr trick in a game ?
Posted by GAB
Sunday 25th of March 2012 15:29:16
Remember going to play a league game on a wednesday afternoon with Rutherglen Academy away to St Josephs of Blantyre at the pitch in their school about 1969.We were on the pitch with the referee but no St Josephs.The janitor came out to say they were not coming out to play the game. The referee told us to kick off and our centre forward Willie Mcpheat went up and put the ball in the net and he awarded us a 1-0 win. Always wondered if it would have been a draw if he had missed .Maybe it could have cost us the title we will never know strange the things you remember
Posted by Silver Surfer
Sunday 25th of March 2012 10:28:18
And there are more memories: Playing football under the streets lights until it was time for bed. Pounds, shillings and pence. The nutters chasing the swans in the loch behind the Cathkin quarry. The Carnegie library on the Main Street – a true gem of Rutherglen. Christmas morning and a Topical Times football book. Working men in their boiler suits coming wearily off the bus every night and walking home to houses full of weans. Fitness circuits at football training nights long before expensive Fitness Gyms were even thought about. Our house nearly going on fire and my Dad grabbing the flaming chip pan with his bare hands and throwing it out the back door. My first game of football when there were big team scouts in the “crowd “. Knowing the names of hundreds of people in the scheme. Playing football when there was real goal nets and no need to chase the ball. My Dad saving my sister from drowning when she fell head first into a big oil drum full of water that builders were using for new house builds across the road from us. The excitement of watching the 1970 World Cup on our old telly ( the great Brazilian team and the beautiful game). Guys who talked a good game but could not pass a ball from A to B. Cold mornings waiting for the bus to school. The best local player I played against – Craig Speirs.Men walking down to the dugs at Shawfield on a Saturday night. Hinging from wall bars in the school gym and a maniac teacher making you jump head first over a wooden horse. Hard players, great dribblers, good goal scorers, fast players, left footed players, long throw specialist, roadrunners, the Fighters, the natural born winners, real footballers. Learning to swim at Rutherglen Baths. The Burgh Cup Final. The Rutherglen Reformer. Many a good game of football on black ash parks – carbolic soap to clean out any wounds. Wooded land around the Burgh. Walking over to Hampden for the Scotland games – the stench from the parked buses from all corners of the country spilling out oily fumes could make you grasp for air. The tom boy girls who wanted to kick the ball with the boys. The smell of the sewage plant at Shawfield. The Power station just over the Dalmarnock Bridge. The old doctor's surgery on Rutherglen Main Street and Dr.Lowe who used to do house visits with his wee black Doctors bag full of syrups and potions. The Rio picture House. The Trolley buses. My uncle who was a park warden in the Overtoun Park. The red sandstone tenements. Desi Divers the Barber Shop and a short back and sides with a cow lick front shed parting that was all the style for a shilling. Birdnesting. How busy the Main Street was on a Friday night when men got their wages in cash. The General Election but my parents never told me who they would vote for. The first phone in our house, it was huge, but any neighbour could use it in an Emergency. We did not have much money, but it didn’t matter. We had everything we needed. Sports day down at Templetons and the three legged race. But most of all I REMEMBER PLAYING FOOTBALL WITH MY PALS. Rutherglen a great place to grow up. Wonderful life in Rutherglen with wonderful peoples and lots of good memories
Posted by Silver Surfer
Saturday 24th of March 2012 18:49:10
More memories of Rutherglen: for children there were so many fun things to do, boredom was almost impossible, and not a computer in sight. There was the great outdoors and the big hills: the walk up to Cathkin Brae was a great adventure. White laces for my football boots. Chap door runaway. The smell of a real Black pudding supper. Butter measured by wooden paddles in Curleys shop in Burnside. The Loch up behind the Quarry near Cathkin Braes were some brave people would go swimming in summer. The rag and bone man and his trumpet hawking balloons for anything. Cleaning my football boots with dubbin. Doing shopping every week with my mother and carrying a big wooden basket full of earthy tatties. An Adidas bag for my football gear. The XMAS decorations that went on the tree every year. Dogging school to go and watch the Clyde at Shawfield one Wednesday afternoon. Running with my pals way out beyond the East Kilbride Road to keep fit. Gizzi’s Café. Reading the big green Evening Citizen paper on a Saturday night to see the football results. Ruining my new shoes by playing football in the street on the way home from school - got skelped for that one ! Lots of good friends. Watching my Dad play football with us – he could play. The Middens. A new ball, usually orange coloured, with a big lace. Scrambles at weddings – a few pennies meant Nougats, ice cream cones and sponges. But most of all I REMEMBER THE FOOTBALL. Great teams from the Royal Burgh.
Posted by Henry Horrid.
Saturday 24th of March 2012 17:03:32
When I was a boy there was public football parks all around the Burgh - how many are there now ? I would be struggline to name one.
Posted by Big Alf
Saturday 24th of March 2012 16:58:19
Rutherglen has given the world some star players. No more to say. Thanks
Posted by Silver Surfer
Saturday 24th of March 2012 16:38:19
Some memories of Rutherglen . Sneekin in to watch Glencairn Juniors . When we were young all we did was play football. The football pitches at the Overtoun Park every weekend when every pitch had a game on it morning and afternoon. Getting a chippie and a bottle of Tizer after a game was a treat . Our meeting point for the school team was the stone shelter at Spittal on the Main road up to Fernhill. Rolling Easter eggs down the Cathkin Braes and then playing a game of football with 22 a side. Adventures to last a life time on the streets and football pitches around the Burgh. All the kids playing outside all the time. Getting a few pennies for pocket money on a Friday and buying football cards. Getting chased through the Hole in the Wall on the way back from football training. The number 21 bus from Rutherglen late on a Friday night and the sing songs. The names of every neighbour who lived up our close and still remember them 50 years later. Lassies in the swing park singing the popular songs of the day ( David Cassidy ). Our first telly ( black and white ) and my brother having to stand on a chair with the aerial to get a good signal. Wee goalies with big gloves. People with BIG Alasation dugs that chased the ball. Playing football on a warm summer night in the street until my mother shouted me in. Every night then seemed to be warm. The school blazer which never had a stain on it. Hide and Seek, Kick the Can, Apple raids, 2 man hunt, rounders, going round doors for wood on bonfire night. Spin the Bottle and Postman knocks at parties. The fields. Hogmanay parties. Smoking my first cigarette and never again. Our music teacher who was drop dead beautiful for a 14 year old boy at the height of puberty. Playing football on a cold winters day in the street. Guys being chased by gangs. Building dens and boggies and sledges. Playing football in the street in the rain. All the good footballers. Hearing my brother being born in our house and his first cry. Wish I had a better memory but so many good memories. If I could travel back through time it would be great to meet some of the people I grew up with again. Everybody has a story to tell, good or bad. But one thing most people reading this site will have in common are their roots in Rutherglen. FANTASTIC. Keep posting those football stories
Posted by The Soapman
Saturday 24th of March 2012 13:54:43
In the Rutherglen Library there is a book called “ The History of Rutherglen and East Kilbride “ by David Ure. It was written in 1793 ! Over 200 years old. It is an incredible read about the early days of Ruglen. I was flicking through it to see if there was any mention about Tam Bennett and local football in ye olde days, , but of course football had not been invented then. One page that did catch my eye was about local place names ( 52 were mentioned ). These included names like Bankhead, Blackfauld, Bullions-law, Clinkert-Hill, Galloflat, Stonelaw, Kirk-rigs, and many more. A good read if you are bored watching telly.
Posted by RAB C
Saturday 24th of March 2012 08:28:49
Years ago I was in Rio de Janeiro. On the Copacabana Beach there are loads of football pitches marked out on the sand. Every day and night you can watch dozens of full scale games: all the teams have their own strip, there is a referee for each game, players play in their bare feet, and big crowds surround the park and cheer on their team. (you can even get a game if you want ). Beautiful tanned women in thongs from the Brazilian Beach Volley teams stop and watch the football. ( Women love football in Brazil. ). You see some incredible footballers and skills and the games are very competitive. Rio is Paradise if you like football. It reminded me of the Fernhill Parks and the Rutherglen Overtoun Park all those years when football games were played almost every day and night. It made me homesick for Rutherglen. Rio should be on the Bucket List for every football fan. I wonder if the Rutherglen Greatest Team would beat the Rio de Janeiro Greatest team ?
Posted by Uncle Ben
Thursday 22nd of March 2012 22:28:01
Ruglonians love football, especially live football. Does anyone have any recordings of games or the great players from the burgh that could be shared on www.youtube.com ?
Posted by GAB
Thursday 22nd of March 2012 19:48:55
Back in the 70s Cathkin United were due to play a cup tie at Shettleston juniors ground we had to travel by public transport on a saturday when we got to Glasgow to get another bus to shettleston the conducter would only let 7 on as the bus was nearly full. Wee Jock told the defenders and midfielders to get on as it was getting near kick off we arrived 5 mins before the start and the ref told us to hurry on or he would award the game to our opponents.We played for nearly an hour with 7 men and kept the score at 0-0. When the rest came on we thought we would cruise to victory.Ended up losing 3-0
Posted by the GASMAN
Thursday 22nd of March 2012 18:31:19
I like football quotes: here are a few : Is there any good Rutherglen quotes? I think football would become an even better game, if someone invented a ball that kicks back. - Eric Morecombe Football is a game for rough girls, not suitable for delicate boys. - Oscar Wilde Football has nothing to do with fair play... it is war minus the shooting. George Orwell The lovers of football are large, boisterous, nobby boys who are good at knocking down and trampling on slightly smaller boys. George Orwell. Behind every kick of the ball, there has to be a thought - Dennis Bergkamp Could you apply any of thse quotes to players on this list ? WHO ?
Posted by Local Mole
Wednesday 21st of March 2012 20:56:50
Do you know something that you never see in Rutherglen nowadays is boys in the street playing Keepie Uppie. Years ago you could see this everywhere as young budding footballers practiced their ball juggling skills and not letting the ball hit the ground. The men's world record is held by Dan Magness of England, who kept the ball up for 26 hours using just his feet, legs, shoulders and head. He also managed to walk 36 miles without letting the ball touch the ground. One of the more famous displays of keepie-uppie was during the 1967 Scotland V England game at Wembley when Jim Baxter taunting the World Cup Winners by playing keepie uppie, leading to a 3-2 victory for Scotland. How many Keepie Uppies can you do ? Who is the Keepie Uppie Champion from Rutherglen ?
Posted by Denis The Menace
Wednesday 21st of March 2012 20:36:43
Rutherglen WAGS think if it was not for football, most Ruglonian men would have nothing to talk about . Psychologists say women tend to communicate more freely over a vast range of topics, including emotions ( that sounds like my Mrs ) , but men , especially footballers, tend to be more limited in their communication. Football provides men with a good socially acceptable reason to hang out with friends and get out the house on a Saturday. Perhaps the best reason is that it gives football crazy Ruglonian men a few precious, uninterrupted hours away from the WAGS in our lives. I know my wife reads this site, I hope she does not recognise me……
Posted by Joe McFlannel
Wednesday 21st of March 2012 20:35:24
In the 1950’s there was a lecturer at Glasgow Uni who said that “ When a Scotman kicks a football he imagines he is kicking his father’s head “. What a load of rubbish. Football unites people and communities. I am willing to bet that there are no players on this list who went out deliberately to hurt an opponent. Do you agree or do you know someone who was a silent assassin on the the fields of Rutherglen ?
Posted by Syd
Monday 19th of March 2012 21:48:22
Five players from the list turned out for Fernhill Athletic in the 14-16 team on the 29/06/1967 against Avoca,Fernhill's very first match.They were Davie Cleugh,John Walker both Fernhill road and Steven Campbell,Jim Anderson and Fred Mcnab all from Galloway Drive.
Posted by Rudolph
Saturday 17th of March 2012 07:49:12
In May 1967 the Rutherglen Reformer reported that “ Jock Stein from Rutherglen is in line to win the Football Manager of the Year award. The prize was 1,500 pounds.”. – Jock lived for a short time in Burnside. ( But he was not a Ruglonian: he came from Burnbank/Hamilton ). I wonder who the Greatest Manager from Rutherglen was ?
Posted by Rudolph
Saturday 17th of March 2012 07:38:37
Re the last post , the Tenants Association was made up of a lot of people including Dan Brolly, Mrs, June Donaghe ( from Ardgay Way), and business man Tony McGuiness. I think they recognised the benefits of sport for the young people from Fernhill. There were games on Saturday mornings, Saturday afternoons then the same again on a Sunday. Everybody would be playing, whether it was organised or not. You knew everyone because of football. They were lots of unsung heroes in the Association and Football Club committees. Anyone who played in the local team in the 1960s/70's had a lot to thank them for.
Posted by Rudolph
Saturday 17th of March 2012 07:27:38
With a population of 3,000, Fernhill is determined to hold its own Community activities. Sponsored by the local Tenants Association an Athletics Association ha been formed: paramount in this are 2 football teams ( 14-16 year old, and 16-18 age group ). Secretary of the Football section is Jimmy Walker and Bob Little will be Match Secretary. Bob Somerville will be trainer/coach. Included in the committee in an Advisory capacity are Willie Robb, ex Glasgow Rangers goalkeeper, Jock McDougall, associated with Glencairn, and Jack Calder, formerly associated with the now defunct Rutherglen team, the Regent Star > . source Reformer June 1967.
Posted by joyce
Wednesday 14th of March 2012 21:21:46
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Posted by joyce
Wednesday 14th of March 2012 21:21:10
Anyone have any photos of the Cue Ball
Posted by Gentleman Jim
Wednesday 14th of March 2012 20:46:21
Fernhill Athletic played their first game ( 14-16 year team ) against Avoca on 29/06/1967. The under 18 team's first game was against Eastercraigs Amateurs ( who were a top team ) the next night 30/06/1967. Both games were played at the Overtoun Park with a 7:15 pm kick off time. Do you know anyone who played in these games?
Posted by anonymous
Wednesday 14th of March 2012 20:40:53
In 1996 Jürgen Griesbeck developed Fútbol por la Paz (Football for Peace), a project using football to combat violence and drugs on the streets of Medellín, Colombia. http://www.streetfootballworld.org/aboutus/milestones - Street Football World is designed to encourage intercultural understanding, dialogue and friendship, between people from different countries. Check out http://www.streetfootballworld.org - I wonder if Rutherglen will ever enter a team ?
Posted by El Dorado
Wednesday 14th of March 2012 20:31:09
Re post below about the Cathkin Braes: many a happy time we had up there kicking the ball around in the deep snow. In the 1960's lots of people used to cut their Xmas tree from the Braes.
Posted by Jammy
Wednesday 14th of March 2012 20:27:05
I remember the days the girls used to run around the local football field in their navy nickers for gym, and the guys would stop kicking the ball to have a good look. You can take the boy ( or girl ) out of Rutherglen, but you can never take Rutherglen out of the boy ( or girl ).
Posted by RH
Wednesday 14th of March 2012 20:24:29
Re the post below about Junior Cup Final day in 1967: Cup Final fever hit Rutherglen when the Glens reached the Scottish Junior Cup Final. People queued up at Southcroft to get their tickets. On Cup Final day traders were selling flags and rosettes on the Main St, and the local pubs were full of fans in black and white. Taxis did a roaring business on the road over to Hampden. Even some dogs were decked out in the Black and White of the Glens. Good days for the Glens.
Posted by RH
Wednesday 14th of March 2012 20:22:30
In the summer of 1967 there was a football tournament at the Croftfoot playing fields. It included teams from Kings Park, Croftfoot and Rutherglen. The teams were Kings Park Rangers, Croftfoot Parish Church, Kings Park former pupils, Cambria, Park Royal and Rutherglen XI. Does anyone know who played in the Rutherglen team ? Who won the tournament ?
Posted by admin
Tuesday 13th of March 2012 21:56:38
Does anyone remember the Braes Suite at the Cathkin Hotel? This was opened in the late 1960’s and attracted top entertainers like Carole Kidd, Vince Martin and Glen Daly. It used to cost 17 shillings and sixpence for a good night out dinner dance. Local teams used to have their end of year presentations in the Cathkin. I seem to recall Glen Daly presented the awards one year.
Posted by admin
Tuesday 13th of March 2012 21:51:27
In 1967 Rutherglen Academy under 13’s won the Todd Cup . Does anyone remember that competition and do you have a winners medal ?
Posted by admin
Tuesday 13th of March 2012 21:50:49
MAYBE The greatest team from Rutherglen is the Glencairn team that reached the 1967 Scottish Junior Cup Final. It was a great achievement even although they lost 3-1 to Kilsythe Rangers in a replay after the first game was a 1-1 draw. The team was Andy Phipps, Tommy Little, Willie Brennan, Billy Sutherland, George Reid, Tom Kennedy, Hugh McKay, Ronnie Cowan, John McGoldrick, Alex Robson, Jim O’Brien. Sub was Kenny Cunningham.
Posted by admin
Tuesday 13th of March 2012 20:07:56
Some people have asked if Aiden McGeady came from Rutherglen. This has been checked with the Registrar of births at the Registrar office at the Town Hall on Rutherglen Main Street. They have confirmed that he was born in the Rutherglen Maternity Hospital on 04 April 1986.
Posted by RH
Wednesday 29th of February 2012 19:13:27
A cracking photo of The Piggery has been uploaded to the Gallery. It was located down behind Pinkerton Avenue in the Burnhill. If you crossed the burn in front of the car in the photo this was the farm area: local boys would have played football on this land from the 1930's. In the background you will see the great smoking chimneys of the White's Chemical Works which dominated Rutherglen. Thanks to Gordon Brown for this photo. If anyone else has any other old photos please let us know.
Posted by Mr Softie
Wednesday 29th of February 2012 16:31:07
Aye Ned, huv just been on lookin at his profile - it says that he began his professional career wi Dundee United and made nearly thirty league appearances for them over a four-year spell. He left them in 1978. Fitba is all aboot playing (full stop) never mind the level - mind you, a load o the guys on here should hav went tae a higher level too.
Posted by Ned
Wednesday 29th of February 2012 08:13:41
Re the last post: that is a fair comment from Mr.Softie. If you never seen Alan Forsythe playing , he was a top player. He was at Dundee United in the mid 1970’s. Played in the same team with the likes of Andy Gray, Paul Sturrock, Walter Smith, Archie Knox etc. Football is all about playing at different levesl and he played at a really good level. Hard as nails and was no stranger to a yellow card. Hard but fair.
Posted by Mr Softie
Tuesday 28th of February 2012 21:54:24
Just been looking at the team in different formations - tell you whit bazooka joe, lookin at that defence I widnae think the rest o the team would huv to get oan to any mini bus in a hurry - the other team wid have nae time for a shower no matter whit scheme they wur in. Seen the martins an tich ward playin an bags o bottle there nae probs. Didnae see the guy forsyth but readin his site he looks like a hard bloke too.
Posted by Bazooka Joe
Tuesday 28th of February 2012 21:20:14
Most guys on this list have probably been threatened during a game either by the opposition or someone standing at the side of the park. First time it happened to me was in a school park up in the Cranhill area. Cannot remember who we were playing but I heard those immortal words “ you are getting The Malky “ if you beat me again. In case any readers don’t know what that means, it was a gangland slang for an old fashioned cut throat razor. There was no time for a shower after that game: it was on the mini bus and straight back to the safety of Rutherglen. I always thought The Malky threat was a bit stronger than that old chestnut “ I’m going break your leg “.
Posted by hugh p
Monday 27th of February 2012 20:52:39
Hi my name is hugh peshdoza i come from hungary...i love your site it make me happy thankyou for this...in summer i plan to come to your town to enjoy many funny moments....i plan to visit chappyman speak to all the people who like football....once again thankyou
Posted by Ronald Ronaldo
Sunday 26th of February 2012 23:35:31
I like the idea of a choice of formations on the team page. I think the web master should add some more. The WM formation 1-3-2-2-3 : or the 1-2-3-5 that was used from the turn of the century: or the Swiss “ bolt “ system 1-1-3-2-4, or the Italian Catenaccio system 1-1-3 –3-3 or 1-1-3-4-2 or the 1-3-3-4. Or the Craig Levein system 1-5-5-0. When football first started in Scotlland there was no real formations: 1-1-1-8 was common and then 1-1-2-7. You did not pay money to go and watch defenders. The purpose of football was goals and dribbling. Passing and movement were introduced much later. The Diamond formation is also populare nowadays 1-4-1-2-1-2. Are there any more formations to consider ?
Posted by Penelope
Sunday 26th of February 2012 20:33:35
Hello, I am doing some research for a story about football that I am writing for a new ladies Monthly Magazine. I am hoping you can help me with some answers to my questions: 1. Why do footballers eat oranges at half time ? 2. Do players take a shower at half time ? 3. Why are footballers superstious ? 4. Why do footballers chew gum ? 5. Are footballers paid to much? 6. What is a nutmeg ? 7. Why do footballers keep the ball when they score a hat trick ? 7. Is scoring a goal the best feeling a man can have – why ? 8. Do all footballers have a WAG ? 9. Do footballers chew gum when they are kissing their lady after a game ? 10. What is a Magic Sponge? - Thank You and I look forward to your answers. The winner with most original answer may win a meal for two with one of our Supermodels in a restaurant of your choice in Rutherglen.
Posted by Charlie
Sunday 26th of February 2012 16:55:01
In the early 1900's the men worked 7 days a week, therefore probably no time to play football . See http://www.rutherglen.bravehost.com/history.htm - Whites had a notorious reputation, for not only did the chrome contaminate the land, but his workforce toiled under dire conditions in an atmosphere which had a detrimental effect on their health. The Whites were also regarded as tight-fisted employers, but Overtoun was to meet his match in James Keir Hardie, the Labour pioneer. Hardie backed the workers when they went on strike and publicly exposed their fearful conditions. Hardie called the workers ‘white slaves’, for labours at Shawfield worked for 12 hours a day (without meal breaks) for seven days a week. For an 84-hour week they were paid 3d or 4d an hour (21/- or 28/- per week). It is likely that at this time that an average wage might have been 35/- for a 54-hour week (9 hours per day and 7½d per hour).
Posted by Toby
Sunday 26th of February 2012 10:04:20
Does anyone know if the White’s Chemical plant had a football team ? If so, did they play their games down the Quay Road park ? Rutherglen was a centre of heavy industry, J&J White’s Chemical Works (later ACC Chrome&Chemicals), was in existence from 1820 to 1967, and produced more than 70% of the UK’s Chromate products including chromic acid, chromic oxide pigment, sodium and potassium chromate. It was situated just behind Southcroft Park ( home of the Rutherglen Glencairn ) and provide a lot of empolyment to local people. The Reformer dated 25 Nov 2009 has a photo of a number of people who worked there just before World War 2.
Posted by Chip Shop Bandit
Saturday 25th of February 2012 22:11:36
re post tonight under the player name Jim Wylie: very entertaining. I have no idea if he was a good player or not. It is important that this site has One Man One Vote. Democracy wins in the end.
Posted by Pablo P
Saturday 25th of February 2012 21:10:27
Re post below about the football mural on the wall in Chapmans wall: this was painted in the lounge above the bar. Photos were taken of the people, and the artist then painted them. It was done in sections and then moved to the downstairs bar/lounge. Cannot remember the artists name, but it captured a good moment in time about the Burgh. There is a copy of the image in the Rutherglen Reformer and the Sunday Post. ( late 1980's I think )
Posted by GAB
Saturday 25th of February 2012 14:50:12
Played in a game in the early 70s with Cathkin United against Torpedo Muirend at Fernhill there was a player with Muirend David Stanage who came from Fernhill during the game he collided with one of our players and lost a contact lens the ref stopped the game and told nobody to move.He made a cicle round David and we all got down on our knees to search through the gravel eventually we found the lens and the game continued couldnt believe that we found it among all that gravel
Posted by GAB
Friday 24th of February 2012 23:58:45
Remember the slope well before the pitches in fernhill if you were the one who kicked the ball down the slope you had to go get it if you didnt it caused many a fight also if the keeper dived down the way he probably rolled for a good 10 yards
Posted by next please
Friday 24th of February 2012 14:33:08
big lloydie was a hard man to pin down,,,nnn that was just to get him to go to the bar,,,,
Posted by E.I.Addio
Friday 24th of February 2012 10:19:44
Big Lloydie deserves to be in any all time great team coming out of Ru'glen - I'll stick with the 4-3-3 team all the time.
Posted by Tommy C
Thursday 23rd of February 2012 23:54:50
What a great idea - check out the new Team Page. You now have 3 formations that you can choose from. I just had a look at the 4-3-3 team: Three Murdoch brothers in the midfield, Two Martin brothers in defence and Dave Lloyd up front. Cracking looking team.
Posted by Burnie Stats Man
Thursday 23rd of February 2012 23:42:19
Just like to say the site is a great idea gallery amazing looking forward to reading comments below may take a while
Posted by rosco peeko
Thursday 23rd of February 2012 20:53:16
Well done 2the site gaffers for banning the fun spoilers....keep the soccer stories coming...and of course the humour...nthe patters fantastic
Posted by Gerry M
Sunday 19th of February 2012 21:36:21
Remember my first game in junior football, I was a raw eighteen year old winger up against a veteran full back who must have been in his mid thirties.It was the early seventies and my hair was pretty long so I was getting some stick from the opposing fans with their Geronimo jibes.In my first attempt to get passed my geriatric opponent I nutmeged him.He then turns to me and gives me his rendidion of that well known song 'You'll Never Walk Again'.Those were the days my friend.
Posted by The strange walking man
Sunday 19th of February 2012 20:45:57
Does anybody remember playing on the 'slope' in Fernhill before the red ash pitches were built where you learned to play fitba at a 45degree angle. It was the hill just before you went over to Blairbeth.A normal pitch never looked right after playing there.
Posted by Columbo
Sunday 19th of February 2012 20:24:48
How many people recognize their own ugly mugs in the photo gallery picture titled 'All Good Sports'from 1965.It was taken at Cathkin Primary and just about evry local school team that year is represented.Come on now own up,is that you in there.C
Posted by 007
Sunday 19th of February 2012 09:14:44
Re the quote below about the Cathkin Braes top level: if the ball rolled down the second level then you were in a different world trying to find it. Then you were in the Lost World of the forest and long grass. You might never see you football again, but you might glimpse a lost tribe of pygmies or one of the local young ladies going for the all over sun tan. The midgies made a hell of a mess of their pimples. I thought there was a Nudist camp in the hills for years. The long hot school summer days of football were Happy Days. Also occassionaly you would see a professional football team starting their pre season training with hill running. I remember seeing the Celtic players running along the plateaus.
Posted by Roy
Saturday 18th of February 2012 15:04:17
Question: Which 3 players on this list would you have enjoyed going for a pint with and talking football. For me it would be: a). Bobby Murdoch: Seen him many times in Rutherglen but never spoke to him as I did not want to annoy him. I' would have liked to know how he overcame the serious injury to his ankle in his first professional game and then go onto be one of the greatest midfield players of his generation. Where did the drive and determination come from to be able to do achieve this? b). Harry Haddock: one of the few men from Rutherglen who was voted Scottish Footballer of the Year. ( 1959). He played for the great Clyde teams when they were winning cups and crowds flocked down the Rutherglen Road to Shawfield every Saturday. I would like to know how he managed to be at the top of football for so long and never get booked, which was unusual for a defender. c). Billy Robb: played over 240 consecutive games in goals for Rangers in the 1920’s. I would like to know what
Posted by Dimitri
Saturday 18th of February 2012 14:58:56
Football is not for the few thousand professionals who make a living from it around the world, it for the millions who play it for nothing. From the spare ground outside the flavela’s in Brazil where the future Kings of Soccer learn their skills, to the cold back streets of Moscow, to the hot dusty streets of Lagos, football is the escape route. They need to hear good stories about what football can do for them. It is clear from this website that that it also brings joy to people in your town in Scotland. I do not understand all the comments but I liked surfing this site.
Posted by Ping Pong Champion
Saturday 18th of February 2012 10:34:06
First organised game I can remember was in the 1960's for the school team at Overtoun Park against Burnside Primary. We got thrashed about 10- 0. It was pouring of rain and freezing and I was stuck on the left wing. Never touched the ball in 45 mins. That is when I realised I should stick to Ping Pong. Also remember playing with my pals up the top level of the Cathkin Braes in front of the big Pavilion. Great games and everyone got stuck in and then took their turn of going for the ball when it rolled off the side of the mountain. After the game it was a cool drink from the water fountain tap and then into the cafe at Pavilion.
Posted by The cat
Saturday 18th of February 2012 01:21:20
Can you remember your very first game of organized football.For me it was primary school when the teacher decided to form a class team to play one of the other classes.She proceeded to put all the different positions on the blackboard,I must have been seven or eight at the time and had hardly kicked a ball up to that point and didn't have a clue what she was going on about.The only place I could figure out to go was in goal,so when she asked for volunteers for keeper I was the only idiot to put his hand up.Next thing I know i'm standing in the pouring rain up to my ankles in muck watching all these wee guys chasing the ball like a flock of birds.That was my first and last game in goal,you must need to be off your head to actually want to play there.
Posted by Q.Tarantino
Friday 17th of February 2012 20:59:44
Wouldn't fancy being a forward coming up against the 2 Martins and Tich Ward - having nightmares already thinking aboot it.
Posted by Scud
Friday 17th of February 2012 20:34:02
Cracking photo of wee Wullie Henderson of the Rangers has been uploaded onto the Photo Gallery. This was taken in the Pop Inn in 1970 when he was breaking the bottle for Charity. Does anyone remember the Pop Inn? I had my first under age pint in there. 3 pints and and my bladder was full and I was peeing like a horse. Still rememebr trying to walk in a straight line across my living room while my parents were watching the telly. They never cracked a light, but Isuspect they knew by my slight sways/staggers. At 2 oclock the next morning when I was spewing down the toilet pan, they knew for certain !
Posted by Harley Davidson
Friday 17th of February 2012 20:21:48
The oldest pub in Rutherglen was most likely Ye Olde Inn in Chapel Street. It was established around 1650. I WONDER IF IT HAD A FITBA TEAM. Before television and radio customers at the old Inn told stories and tales that were passed down to the next generation of locals. One story that was told within the thick brick walls of Ye Olde Inn, was a gentleman called James Philipshill a cooper, who in 1668 was banned by the Magistrates from all brewers and sellers of drink in the Burgh. A prohibitory order to this effect was issued with the humane proviso, and the very obvious loophole for abuse, that his wife and bairns might buy drink for the use of house and family. the penalty for serving Philipshill with drink was £5. The Inn was once both tavern and dairy with its own cow. Thus a demand for a pint and a pint could conveniently cover both domestic and personal requirements.That famous old Rutherglen custom of baking sour cakes on St Luke's eve is almost sure to have been ob
Posted by Harley Davidson
Friday 17th of February 2012 20:13:23
Re the question/post below about the mural that was on the wall in the Chapman’s pub downstairs bar. I remember it well, but sorry I have no idea where you will get a photograph of it. But there was also a mural painted on the wall on the upstairs lounge. To see a copy please have a look at http://www.oldglasgowpubs.co.uk/chapmans.html There has been licensed premises on the Chapman’ site since at least 1850. Can you imagine the number of football conversations/arguments/banter that must have taken place in there over the last 160 years ! Before the Second World War came to an end, John Chapman took charge of this popular bar, he lived in Stonelaw Drive. His son Hugh Chapman then took over the business. If you want to see a photograph of the Chapmans they are on the website http://www.oldglasgowpubs.co.uk/chapmans.html
Posted by fred skuttle
Friday 17th of February 2012 13:35:05
Could we put 2gether a comedy team?z
Posted by the optimist
Friday 17th of February 2012 01:30:54
Get a grip who cares who's in the team just give us more funny stories and strange tales and lighten up a bit.Everybody on the list would love to be in the team but most of us are not fit to lace Bobby Murdoch's boots never mind stepping on the same imaginary pitch with him.Lets not ruin this great website and treat it with respect after all it's only supposed to be a bit of fun.Keep up the good work.
Posted by E.I. Adio
Friday 17th of February 2012 01:21:11
Re a few posts ago - I thought the criteria was "It does NOT need to have been someone who made the top grade in football and played at a professional level. We all know someone who should have been a great player, but got lost along the way to Wine, Women, Song, or the Bookies". There is no argument about who was Rutherglen's most successful player Bobby wins it hands down but that is nor what this website is about. Makes you wonder if Celtic would have been severely affected if you replaced Bobby with one of the guys that played with the Hoover - maybe they would have went on and won it again. No disrespect meant to Bobby a 'true legend of the wonderful game'.
Posted by G&T
Thursday 16th of February 2012 23:11:40
The funniest post on this site has just been posted under Jim Wylie: no idea who wrote the script, but it made me laugh out loud: well done the author. This site is full of wee gems like this. keep them coming.
Posted by Jimmy Justice
Thursday 16th of February 2012 22:47:00
Re the last post , I agree but lighten up and watch you dont trip over your bottom lip.It's not to be taken too serious .Everybody knows Bobby Murdoch is head and shoulders above everyone
Posted by anonymous
Thursday 16th of February 2012 22:09:35
Posted by dazed and confused
Thursday 16th of February 2012 18:12:13
In response to a previous post concerning Glenroyal.They were an under 16 team from Spittal making their debut in the 1967/68 season with their home ground the old grass pitch in the scheme.I found an archive report in the Rutherglen Reformer for that year dated November 67 covering thier first clash with local rivals Fernhill Athletic also in their debut season,a real local derby match.Fernhill came out on top by five goals to three.The other thing that makes this meeting unique is that both sides fielded between them a combination of at least sixteen Rutherglen Academy and Gallowflat players.These two schools were hardly the best of friends on the football pitch so you can imagine what kind of blood and guts scraps these affairs were.Is their anybody out there who remembers playing in these games or watching them.Classic stuff.
Posted by Jake the peg
Thursday 16th of February 2012 13:55:55
Should have known who the idiot was with only a left boot.I have probably heard the story a hundred times but wasn't paying attention as usual.
Posted by GAB
Wednesday 15th of February 2012 21:49:35
The idiot who had a boot missing at the Burgh cup final in 1968 was myself(Gordon Brown) we had walked down from Cathkin Primary to spittal pitches to loosen up got changed put on left boot then realised i had left my other boot in my desk teacher had to go get it kick off was held up for 15 mins.Regarding getting changed in close before games this mainly happened when i played in the sunday league with Cathkin United as the pavilion only opened mon-sat at the start. If weather was bad it was the close. Neighgbours were not happy soon put a stop to it. Happy days indeed
Posted by Tommy
Wednesday 15th of February 2012 20:34:34
Re the question below about football advice: The best advice I ever received was from my Dad. He always told me to practice with both feet: during a game it would not matter what direction the ball came from, you would be able to control it if you were comfortable with both feet. As a boy I must have kicked a wall against the wall in our street a million times: if it rained I went into the close and did the same. It must have driven our neighbours nuts. My Dad also told me never to argue with the referee: you would never change their mind. He was right. Good sportsmanship was important to my old man.
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 14th of February 2012 22:00:43
Regarding the cup final question between Cathkin vs StMarks and the Cathkin player with the missing boot incident it was the 1968 final played at spittal pitches which StMarks won 2-1 i know this because i was that player who am i???
Posted by Jimmy Diamonds
Tuesday 14th of February 2012 21:43:04
To all the great footballers from Rutherglen: What was the best piece of advice you've ever received about football, and who gave you it ?
Posted by RH
Tuesday 14th of February 2012 21:36:01
Thanks for the feedback on The Piggery: it was along Pinkerton Avenue in the Burnhill next to Sophie Bains shop: go down there then down Glebe St ( or was it Reid St ?), cross the bridge at the burn, and you were on the Piggery pitch. Loads of good players learned how to control a ball here and also on the Alleybank pitch ( just past the old Glenruth Hotel on teh way down to Farme Cross )
Posted by Jimmy
Tuesday 14th of February 2012 21:19:13
Regarding the Cathkin player with the missing boot, was it the 1965 final.If it was I played in this game but I don't remember the incident.The only player living close to the pitches was John Walker around the corner in Fernhill Road.This is the same Cathkin team in the photo gallery John is standing in the back row second from the right.J
Posted by The old bill
Tuesday 14th of February 2012 20:51:55
This website is a great idea,the team more or less picks its self but all the other stuff is much more interesting.
Posted by RH
Monday 13th of February 2012 21:58:01
Can you name this player: it was the mid 1960’s. It was Cup Final day – the Burgh Cup Final. Cathkin V St.Marks school. He was playing for Cathkin. He was sitting in the dressing room nervous about this great occasion. He put on his left boot and tied his laces. He put his hand into his bag to take out his right boot, but to his horror it was gone. The golden boot was missing. He may have to start the Cup Final wearing one boot only. Clue: this player stayed upo the close next to the Fenhill pitches. Before the dressing rooms were built, teams used to change up his close. Until the neighbours started to get fed up with the noise and muck.
Posted by RH
Monday 13th of February 2012 21:52:23
I received a phone call yesterday from an ex Ruglonian who has lived in California for many many years. He is 81 years now. He enjoys checking in to this website and reading the stories about the players from his home town. When he was growing up in the Burnhill, the boys would play football on any spare bit of ground. One of the popular places to play was along the Toryglen Raod at The Piggery. – Does anyone remember playing at the Piggery ? Where exactly was it ?
Posted by Web Admin Team
Sunday 12th of February 2012 12:57:17
There used to be a huge mural on the wall just as you walked into Chapmans Bar from the Rutherglen Main Street. It had faces of many local people and a few local teams in this colourful drawing/painting. ( I think it was one of the great Glencairn Cup winning team and the Clyde Scottish Cup winning team ). If anyone has a copy of it can you please let us know. Thanks
Posted by Rutherglen Rover
Friday 10th of February 2012 20:48:18
On 05 January 1945 the Rutherglen Reformer reported that Clyde had beat Dumbarton 7 – 1. Centre forward L.Johnstone scored 6 goals and his brother scored the other. It was a real family affair. Clyde were now just 1 point behind Rangers at the top of the league and were due to play them in a few weeks at Shawfield. The grounds around Rutherglen were frozen due to the cold cold weather. The Reformer also reported there was no ringing of the Town Hall Bell at Hogmanay or the midnight band parade through the town. But there was some lights on now that the War Blackout restrictions had been lifted. The streets after midnight were busier than in previous years.
Posted by Jimmy
Friday 10th of February 2012 20:38:54
In the mid 1940’s there used to be a team in Rutherglen called the Rutherglen Munro Rangers. I think they were part of a local church. The under 14 team was a top team and very difficult to beat. They played in the Public Park pitches on Stonelaw Road. They used to hold social evenings to entertain the convalescing soldiers who had returned from World War 2. Rutherglen was a good community. I think they came from the church down on Chapel Street, ( you can see it at the end of the Main Street near the Sportsman’s Bar ( near where Southcroft Park used to be ), or the Wardlawhill Church. Maybe someone can confirm.
Posted by anonymous
Wednesday 08th of February 2012 23:47:12
Academy picture from 69 brings back memories good to see Doc, Chink,Boz and Jamie on the list these guys get my vote good times the summer of 69
Posted by Pints Smith
Tuesday 07th of February 2012 21:10:28
Who was the guy from Fernhill that could shy/throw the ball from one side of the park to the other on the BIG park ? Was it Stevie McKeown ? (similar style to that Rory Delap guy from Stoke City ).
Posted by The Gambler
Tuesday 07th of February 2012 21:01:26
Were the Clyde a Rutherglen team or an Oatlands team? Do you know the story of the famous dug track around the pitch ? In 1934, Clyde, were on the verge of going bust. George Clark, one of the directors, had been at Manchester's Belle Vue greyhound racing track and was convinced that Shawfield stadium was ideally suited for a similar venture. Thus, Clyde were saved and the "dugs" raced at Shawfield. 17,000 people attended the first meeting on August 14th, 1934 and after that the dogs chased the hares six days a week for over thirty years! - It was said that when the players were training at night on the pitch they would often be chased by the dugs who jumped the fence ! - the greatest Clyde player from Rutherglen was Harry Haddock.
Posted by GAB
Sunday 05th of February 2012 20:06:54
Just uploaded pictures of Rutherglen Academy team 1969,Cathkin High team 1971 and Spittal primary 1966 burgh cup winners would like to thank Billy Docherty for sending them to me the Academy one shows myself(Boz),Doc,Chink and Honest Jaimie the Spittal one shows Doc,John Brown and Andy Cheek the Cathkin High one was from a magazine called THE FOOTBALL SCOT
Posted by The Mole
Sunday 05th of February 2012 10:55:21
re the recent Post about the Homeless World CUP: Sixty-four teams competed for a place in the final at the Stade de Liberte, and the victorious Scots raised the trophy in front of a rapturous crowd. The Team coach was former Rangers defender Ally Dawson, said: “It’s a great day for these lads. They have done their country proud. They have all been through a lot in their lives, and I hope they go on from this to achieve more success.”. First Minister Alex Salmond sent his congratulations to the squad. The winning team were: William Lawrence, Robert Hare, William Hamilton, William McLean, Barry Gannon, Sean Lawrence, Matthew Ramsay and James Horsburgh in goal. Scotland triumphed at the 2011 Homeless World Cup in Paris, defeating Mexico 4-3 in a nail-biting final. It was the second time Scotland have taken the Homeless World Cup trophy, previously scooping the honour in 2007
Posted by Rutherglen Rover
Sunday 05th of February 2012 09:52:33
January 1920: “ Rutherglen CASTLEBANK are top of the South Side and District Juvenile league one point of Cumberland. “ If you speak to any old guys in Rutherglen they will tell you that the Juvenile football was always a good standard of player. Does anyone know anything about the Castlebank team ?
Posted by Rutherglen Rover
Sunday 05th of February 2012 09:45:59
Has anyone ever been chased for playing street football by the police, a mad neighbour, somebody on nightshift, etc ? How about this for a wee story from the Reformer on 09 MARCH 1945. “ Nine boys appeared before Baillie Rennie at Monday’s Juvenile Session of the Police Court and pleaded guilty to playing at football in Regent Street and Moray Place. The boys had causd a broken window valued at 9 shillings. The boys were admonished on condtion they each paid one shilling towards the cost of the damage. “ - There goes the pocket money for a few months: a shilling was a lot of money just after the war.
Posted by Rutherglen Rover
Sunday 05th of February 2012 09:35:09
Re the post below about a team called Glenroyal: The Rutherglen Reformer newspaper started in 1875. It has been reporting local games/teams/players for 137 years. The library in the Rutherglen Main Street has every weekly paper copy since January 1945. The Mitchell Library up in Charing Cross has every copy of the Rutherglen Reformer on microfiches since 1872. If you want to know the history of any local teams you may find it there.
Posted by RH
Saturday 04th of February 2012 20:15:25
" A ball can change the world " . - Today I was speaking to a World Cup Winner. He is the first person I have ever spoke too who has won a World Cup Winners medal. Robert Hare was having a few pints with his friends in Chapmans pub in Rutherglen today. He played for Scotland in the final of the Homeless World Cup in Paris last year. Scotland beat Mexico 4-3. . Robert now lives in Fernhill.
Posted by JamieM
Thursday 02nd of February 2012 22:08:49
Tell you what GAB - if memory serves me right there will be plenty of the opposite sex from Fernhill that remember that night too - have never seen so many 'birds' watching a couple of games of footie in my life. They must have had ideas of grandeur in their minds thinking they may have got off with a German - unless of course they were over to see the Ferhill talent - somehow I don't think so! GREAT DAYS THOUGH EH!
Posted by GAB
Thursday 02nd of February 2012 19:41:09
Regarding the time when the Bickendorf team from Germany came to play at Fernhill in 1970 as well as the older team winning 1-0 that night Fernhill Ath under 14s with whom myself and Jamie Martin were part of defeated the Bickendorf under 14s 10-1 on the pitch next to the big team most people watched the older team obviously a closer game but it was still a great night with civic reception held in the pavilion afterwards great memories if anyone else reading this also played that night for the under 14s please let us know
Posted by Penny Dainty
Wednesday 01st of February 2012 22:45:04
Ten photos of the Rutherglen Academy football teams have been loaded onto the photo Gallery. 1948,1949,1953,1955,1956,1957,1959. - These were taken from a wonderful site called www.rutherglenacademy.net
Posted by The Guv
Tuesday 31st of January 2012 21:07:02
Nice to see Jimmy Walker in the photo gallery.Great wee guy who ran the very first Fernhill Athletic under 16 side in 1967. There was no home pitch then as the red ash parks weren't completed and home games had to be split between Overtoun park and Spittal.He did a brilliant job turning raw talent into a decent team and was one of the main people to get Fernhill up and running.
Posted by Batman
Tuesday 31st of January 2012 20:43:41
Did anyone see the story in the Rutherglen Reformer last week about Collette McCallum who is probably Rutheglens Greatest Woman's footballer ? ( Her Dad is Robert who came from Fernhill ). -Collette has played all over the world and recently signed for English team Lincoln Ladies. - Is there any more good women players from Rutherglen ?
Posted by Syd
Tuesday 31st of January 2012 20:04:53
Does anybody remember a team from Spittal called Glenroyal round about 1967/68 any info would be appreciated.
Posted by honest Jamie
Tuesday 31st of January 2012 14:08:04
Relating to the Fernhill 'trials' picture posted by GAB on the 25th - faces that I recognise include Andrew Walker, Dan Cowan, Davie Kerr, Derek Bisset, Andy (Tiger) Rennie, Tam Bennett, George Collins the man on the right lived above the shops. I'm pretty sure that this was the Galloway Rovers team mentored by Wee Jimmy Walker who lost out in the final to the Dal Real team (Bobby Harvey, Gordon Slicer, Crawfie Johnstone, Big Dessie (Abbeydale Way), Jim Campbell, Jamie Martin, Geordie Paton to mention just a few)mentored by Big Jimmy Martin and Neil Paton. SUPERB DAYS!
Posted by Lou
Sunday 29th of January 2012 14:57:00
I think at one time ( in the 1960s- 70s ) there were about 17 pubs in the Main St all on the Northern side of the street - from the Vogue bar in the western end to the rather iconic Chapmans at the eastern end. The 21 and 46 bus on a Friday and Saturday night used to be jumping with people with their carry outs on the way back to schemes from the Main Stret. - Did all the pubs have football teams in those days? What team was the best ?
Posted by Vodka Bob
Saturday 28th of January 2012 09:51:36
Doe anyone remember a player named Andoni Goiokoetxea who played for Bilbao in Spain ? His nickname was the “ Butcher of Bilbao “. He chopped and scarred the legs of many famous players. His most famous tackle was on Diego Maradona when he played for Barcelona. The assault broke Maradona’s ankle. The Butcher was so proud of that tackle the boot that did the damage is in a glass case on his mantelpiece. The art of hard tackling seems to be disappearing. A defender needs to find a way to let his presence be known. If we were voting for Rutherglens Hardest team ( 4- 4- 2 formation ), who would be in it ? Henry Carr would be the goalie. He played at a time when keepers had to protect themselves or end up in the Victoria Infirmary every Saturday night.
Posted by Web Admin Team
Friday 27th of January 2012 20:52:33
Today 27 January 2012 vote number 10,000 was posted ! Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this site and spread the word about this site to friends, family, colleagues, work mates, and neighbours. We all look forward to reading many more football ( and funny ) stories about all the great players and characters from Rutherglen. Thanks. We are always interested to hear your ideas and suggestions on how we can get this site out to more people who have a Rutherglen connection. We are sure there are many more people who have great memories and stories to share.
Posted by Ed the Red
Friday 27th of January 2012 20:36:32
Is there a hardworking youngster playing football on the streets of Rutherglen today that you are aware of? Someone who stands out from the rest and has star quality. Someone who the world should know about - someone who is going to be the next great player from Rutherglen? Please let us know. I agree with lots of the comments posted below about the people who run amateur teams in the Rutherglen area and devout lots of time and effort in helping youngsters develop into good players. Without them, I am sure every player nominated so far would be grateful
Posted by GAB
Thursday 26th of January 2012 20:39:51
Would like to mention Bob McKirdy who ran Croftfoot United back in the late 60s and 70s Mac gave years of his time to the Rutherglen area and produced some great players over the years i remember an article in the Reformer a few years back when they interviewed Stevie Archibold and he thanked Mac for everything he had done for him use to play against them with Cathkin United always really tough games and also enjoyed working with him late 70s and throughout the 80s one really nice guy
Posted by Dixie
Thursday 26th of January 2012 17:18:27
Great photos in the gallery,noticed the St Columbkilles school team from the 50s with Bobby Murdoch and Billy Tubby Harding on the front row.
Posted by anonymous
Wednesday 25th of January 2012 21:41:57
Ther are not many Ruglonians who have a song written about them. But there was a song written about Bobby Murdoch after his death. To see/hear it please see YOUTUBE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmfZr1GXDB4 - This will be emmotional for anyone who knew him or seen him play in his prime.
Posted by anonymous
Wednesday 25th of January 2012 19:41:22
Not sure but i think GAB is Gordon Brown on players list might be wrong
Posted by Web Admin Team.
Wednesday 25th of January 2012 07:27:14
FOR ATTENTION OF GAB WHO POSTED THE IMAGES ON THE GALLERY LAST NIGHT: Brilliant pictures and memories of local Rutherglen football history. If you know the names of the players in the Fernhill photoa can you let us know please. Many Thanks.
Posted by GAB
Wednesday 25th of January 2012 00:52:46
Should have added below that Fernhill played there games at Overtoun in 1967 as the fernhill pitches were not completed at the time
Posted by GAB
Wednesday 25th of January 2012 00:38:52
Just posted two photographs of fernhill boys from late 60s at trials for Fernhill Ath the trials were done in the form of a tournament involving just about every boy in fernhill also picture of Spittal primary 1965 and an article from Reformer showing league section for McCafferty shield same year i would like to thank Betty Walker from for letting me borrow them one of the pictures shows her husband Jimmy who ran the first Fernhill team in 1967 way before the bigger picture arrived they managed to get there first strip from Jimmy Elliot who ran the POP INN in Rutherglen
Posted by Laird O Fernhill
Tuesday 24th of January 2012 21:52:56
Not sure who GAB is, but his post below is brilliant. Lots of names that I have not heard in years. Well done.
Posted by Happy Feet
Tuesday 24th of January 2012 21:49:31
Good left footed players stand out a mile - those players who were all left peg ( Messie, Maradona, Baxter, Giggs, Nakamura, Rivelino,etc etc ). Any views on who had the best left peg from Rutherglen ?
Posted by mk
Friday 20th of January 2012 21:33:57
i look below and see the name of the 1 and only dan cowan,,that man made me bunny hop round the track @ fernhil playing fields....all these years later i have to thank dan for....the bandiest legs in rutherglen......big dan LEGEND
Posted by honest Jamie
Thursday 19th of January 2012 00:02:22
Tucker Harvey used to help train the Fernhill goalies - worked wonders with Dan Cowan, wee Danny Brawley took the under 15s (Chic Doris etc etc)- wee Neil Paton also took one of the teams. As GAB says a warm round of applause to you all and thanks for your assistance in moulding us into the men we are today.
Posted by GAB
Wednesday 18th of January 2012 21:47:38
Also lets not forget Jock Barkey for all the years he put into Cathkin United for the surrounding areas cheers Jock many thanks
Posted by GAB.
Wednesday 18th of January 2012 21:23:01
Thought it would be nice to mention some of the people who i can remember that gave up there time to run the various Fernhill teams over the years and also the women in the commitee who met in Mario's cafe to organise the funds and dances back in the sixties there was Jimmy and Betty walker,Alex and Jean Anderson,Alice and Jimmy Martin,George and Metty Campbell,Betty(Brown)Jarvie,Margaret Whitters also George Yeardley,Stuart Freeland,John Clelland,Harry Renaud who was one tough trainer,Bill Fleming for transport,Gordon Wallace later on Dan Cowan,Haggy and Robbie Sturgeon not fogetting John Yeardley who i nearly forgot probably missed a few if so i apologise please add on if there is more The Fernhill name would not have lasted so long without these people many thanks for all your hard work
Posted by E.I.Adio
Tuesday 17th of January 2012 21:10:32
It looks awful like the voting has become extremely 'tactical' in relation to defenders with 4 defenders in the top 6 at this time - would it not just be best to change the formation to 4-4-2. People are obviously voting to have their favourite in the team rather than actually voting for Ru'glens greatest player - why not just give the 'kiddies' what they want.
Posted by jack gray
Friday 13th of January 2012 10:01:49
does anyone remember the quifff hairdo,,it was a well known haircut the footballers used to sport;;;i think brian deans was the first player i seen with it,,infact i think he invented it
Posted by willie divers
Wednesday 11th of January 2012 23:05:53
bobby harvey harry haddock jim fallon danny burke alistair duff you could go on and on, so many great pleyers on this list.
Posted by anonymous
Wednesday 11th of January 2012 16:51:07
kenny whitters
Posted by unicorns
Monday 09th of January 2012 00:55:44
until alan forsyth is in the team i disagree!
Posted by Bald Eagle
Sunday 08th of January 2012 11:48:27
What a team of Ruglonians ! I think the local council should celebrate all these players and get a big picture painted of the Greatest XL and displayed in the Arcade. Embody good at drawings? Or is there a better place to display it - Town Hall, Library, on a wall so that passsing motorist on the new motorway could see it ? Must be loads of places.
Posted by Web team
Sunday 08th of January 2012 09:39:02
If you can help spread the word about this site to any ex pat Ruglonians across the world please send them the website address. Also if you know any older members of our Community ( neighbours, Grand Dads, older guys in your local pub, work mates, etc ) ask them about their football memories of Rutherglen. Everyone will have a story to tell. Thanks
Posted by Taggart
Saturday 07th of January 2012 22:29:12
This team would beat any team from similar size towns in the UK, Europe, and the Rest of the World. Rio, Paris, Hong Kong, New York, Moscow, bring them on. I never realised there were so many good players from the Ancient Burgh of Rutherglen. Would anyone out there on the World Wide Web like to challenge us ? I know that I have had a few bevvies today but the latest comments on this site about John Bennett being on Match of the Day and the Rab Thomson song are probably the funniest things I have read this year ( today is Saturday 07 Januart 2012 ). - Happy New Year to all posters and readers.
Posted by The Joker
Saturday 07th of January 2012 19:38:11
It was a myth that you were only a top player if you could play well on the Glasgow Green. No chance. You were only a good player if you could trap a ball if you could trap a ball on a windy day at the Fernhill pitches.
Posted by The Spy
Saturday 07th of January 2012 14:52:39
Re the last post: Whenever Steve Archibald scored a goal he always lifetd his arm in the air. It was his trademark style of celebrating scoring. He learned that over the Overtoun Public Park in Ruggie when he sometimes played for the pub team in his teenage years.
Posted by Russell
Saturday 07th of January 2012 14:33:35
The Rutherglen Greatest team looks good: it seems a very settled now team with not many changes happening with midfield and forward player names. But there seems good competition between several players at the back to get into the team. Every vote looks like it is going to count.
Posted by the Milkman
Saturday 07th of January 2012 14:30:15
Some brilliant memorabilia on www.icons.com although some of it can be expensive. The only Ruglonian on this world wide list is Steve Archibald. If you look under the " Legends " section you will see autographed photos for sale of Stevie for thirty quid. I remember the days when he used to sign autographs for nothing for the weans outside his mothers house in the Burnhill ( just up from Sophie Bains wee shop ). The boy has done good.
Posted by scottish power
Friday 06th of January 2012 23:01:18
Totally agree..the humour is fantastic....keep it coming
Posted by Jack
Friday 06th of January 2012 20:23:11
Some of the recent posts are the funniest yet: Gerry McGuigan, John Bennett, Brian Deans. etc etc I cannae get out my pension just now because of the crap January weather, and these comments make me smile. Good honest Ruglonian humour. Whoever is posting these comments should be writing for the Daily Record. Also some of the " pen names " against the comments are original. Good stuff. p.s. Take it from an old man the best player from Rutherglen is currently number 1 in the votes - the great Bobby Murdoch. Class act.
Posted by Rutherglen WAG 4
Thursday 05th of January 2012 23:36:02
It’s the New Year, its January , go to work in the dark and come home in the dark. The Storms have been unbelievable this week and Upper Burnside has been battered. I may be a deluded diva, but I am also an optimist who is looking forward to a good wind free weekend. But I need some help from all the good football men from Rutherglen. I am reading a book just now about football and why so many men are passionate followers of football. Can someone answer 3 simple questions: Does football simply offer men a way to relax rather than go weekend shopping with the Mrs ? Do you think woman can enjoy watching TV football games as much as men? Are most men just trying to relive past football glory days or entertain unspoken fantasies about their own hidden football talents whne they talk about the beautiful game? So many questions. But I do enjoy this site. Recognise some of the names from my school days.
Posted by The Lone Ranger
Thursday 05th of January 2012 21:06:52
I have loaded two images of William Robb and Adam Little onto the Picture Gallery. Remarkable players who played with Rangers.
Posted by the Chief
Wednesday 04th of January 2012 01:16:46
The very first McCafferty Shield won by Cathkin Primary in 1965 had no final.It was played as a league system with Cathkin finishing top.Cathkin also beat St Marks 3-0 in the Burgh cup final that same year.
Posted by honest Jamie
Tuesday 03rd of January 2012 22:52:38
Apologies for not really knowing too much about Steven Saunders - but can you imagine what it would be like going in against big Fyffie and big Andy, sends a shiver down my spine just thinking about it. This would make Messie and co seriously think about giving up the game and taking up tiddlywinks.
Posted by Web Team
Tuesday 03rd of January 2012 13:55:22
Does anyone have any good football pictures drawn by local artists ? I know there is an artist called William Neilly who did some brilliant football drawings, but they were mainly around Dalmarnock and Bridgeton street scenes. There was also an artist from Rutherglen and I think his name was Charles Clarke ( not 100 % sure if that is the correct name ) who came from Spittal. If anyone knows how to contact Charles please let us know. I remember he had some drawings displayed in a shop in the Rutherglen Arcade a few years ago.
Posted by Jimbo
Tuesday 03rd of January 2012 13:49:23
There are now 63 photos loaded onto the Gallery: some brilliant stuff. 1> re the Cathkin primary photo in 1965. I did not know that Cathkin Primary won the first ever competition for the McCafferty Shield. Who did they beat ? 2. The Gallowflat school team in 1966: what ever happened to Freddie McNab ? He was a tough defender who liked a battle or two.
Posted by Glen boys
Monday 02nd of January 2012 22:17:25
Hmmmmm not too sure whether Tich Ward would think of himself as a real Ruglonian, general feeling amongst us is his preference may be making the all time Cambuslang team. Team looks really good though and would take some beating.
Posted by Old Yin
Monday 02nd of January 2012 12:18:24
Willie Robb is arguably the best goalkeeper ever from Rutherglen. He played for Rangers in the 1920s. See his careeer profile on the Players List on this site. There was a book written called " Stepping Out ". It was written by people who lived in Rutherglen since the late 189O's. Some great stories/memories about Working life, Social Life, the great War, and life in the Burgh. There is a photo of Willie in the book. He went to Macdonald School in King Street. I have loaded a black and white copy onto the Photo Gallery of this site. Willie is the boy at end of the back row.
Posted by Old Doc
Sunday 01st of January 2012 21:31:51
A wee Fitba song for the New Year: this is for evry footballer in Ruggie: " You aa know ma wee brither, his name is Jock McGraw,He’s lately jined a fitba club, for he’s mad aboot fitba.He has two black eyes already, and teeth lost frae his gub,Since Jock became a member o that terrible fitba club. Chorus:: For he’s fitba crazy, he’s fitba mad,The fitba it has robbed him o the little bit o sense he had,It would take a dozen skivvies, his claes tae wash and scrub,Since Jock became a member o that terrible fitba club.
Posted by Rutherglen WAG 3
Sunday 01st of January 2012 12:17:53
Happy New Year to all Ruglonians: On this New Years morning I do feel a wee bit rough. Mixed my red and white wines too much during the bells last nigh. But no worries after a whiff of smelling salts and a good fry up I will be right as rain again. My New Year resoulution is to join a gym, drink less, stop smoking, stop gambling on the Euro Lottery, go on a diet again, understand the offside rule, go and watch more football with the old man ( he will love that ), read Mario Balotelli's self-help book. I would also like to do a Sport injury course and learn new massage techniques. Anyways that is the future, today is abour partying. Enjoy. Have a great New Year
Posted by mk
Sunday 01st of January 2012 11:19:31
craigie spears was pure class,and the reason he never made it to the top was,,LAGER....enough said
Posted by Dixie
Saturday 31st of December 2011 19:19:11
Does any one know if Big Harry Gray and his brother Stevie came from Rutherglen ?????
Posted by Joey
Saturday 31st of December 2011 15:58:44
All the above players on that pitch should be in the Rutherglen Hall of Fame. Some grand players in that team. Well done the voters.
Posted by Joey
Saturday 31st of December 2011 15:49:47
Who is the best Rutherglen footballer you ever played with or against ? - That's easy - Craig Speirs from Fernhill. He was the one player I came across who I genuinely thought would make it big time. He was a natural. I think you just need the breaks and make the most of an opportunity when it arises.
Posted by Rab
Thursday 29th of December 2011 22:55:31
re the last Post: and there is more...The best place to defend is the other team’s penalty box :: Use your pace wee man, you could catch pigeons: the Golden Rule is clear your lines, no fannying around at the back: if you score a hat trick today I will buy the beer tonight: Pele you are only allowed 3 nutmegs in a game, no more. We want to get out this place alive: 2 points boys, we need two points: Enjoy your game::Play to your strengths and disguise your weaknesses:: it is a good day for shooting, that is the only way you score goals: get the baw in the box that is where you score goals: help your mate, it is a team game: Go out and win – or else training is going to be hard on Monday night: The only right way is the winning way- get into them.: Phoneys and cheats do not last long in this team, play fair, play hard, and win:: keep the ball moving dont let it stop:: you are only cheating yourself if you don't give 100% :
Posted by Rab
Thursday 29th of December 2011 22:43:43
Every manager of a team in Rutherglen would have their own little pearls of wisdom that they would say every week to their players before a game: The ball is round so make it go round, don't dribble until you are knackered:: Keep the high balls low:; If you are stuck in the penalty box with no one to pass it to, then stick it in the net:: Get the ball on the deck, it will not hurt the grass/ash: Ok lads, this is going to be a hard game today, so we are going to play 4-4-2: Remember the ball never gets tired, so let it do the running:: Big Man you are on the bench because you still weigh 15 stone and your arse is too big for the team shorts: Wee man you are dropped for trying that scissors kick from the centre circle last week: we still cannae find the ball. Baws cost money:: You need to cut out the kebabs and chicken pakora on a Friday night if you want to last 90 minutes:: Big Joe you kicked that guy up the arse week, I know you said it was a late mis timed tackle, but come on big yin
Posted by Peter
Tuesday 27th of December 2011 22:02:08
Go into any bar in Rutherglen and sitting at the bar you will always find somebody telling you how good a player they used to be. It is good to read on this site about all the guys who stuck too it and enjoyed their football and did well. I recognise loads of the names: I even remember playing Crab football in the school gym with some of them: crab football could be a dangerous game if you were playing against someone who always wanted to win.
Posted by Braz
Tuesday 27th of December 2011 20:44:45
Based in Rutherglen, an area of Glasgow famous for its shipyards, Upper Clydesdale team existed for just four seasons from 1878. The red star stitched onto their hooped jerseys makes for a fine contrast. See their amazing jersey on website:http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Articles/Olde_Curiosity_Shoppe.htm - It is a belter.
Posted by Bud
Tuesday 27th of December 2011 20:35:09
Re the post about Boys Guild football: The Guild football league was popular across Glasgow. It was a stepping stone and nursery to the professional clubs. Loads of good player played in Guild football teams. Outside of school, it was one of the places you could get a regular game/league.
Posted by The Tank
Tuesday 27th of December 2011 20:24:02
One of my memories is playing on the park at the Fernhill pitches: come out the dressing rooms and turn left. Remember that one in the corner with the big metal fence behind the goal ? There was a few maisonnete buildings next to the park: the people in the houses used to watch the games:if they left their windows open they could hear the noise from the parks: Especially if Dick McLaughlin was playing. His dulcit tones could be heard throughout the scheme urging his team on. Probably the loudest player from the burgh: playing in front of Dick could lead to deafness. But what a brilliant team player.
Posted by Rutherglen WAG
Sunday 25th of December 2011 20:01:28
Merry Christmas from upper Burnside: it has been a great day and I am just finished my Christmas dinner: sprouts, a Glasgow salad( chips ), goose, beans, some sherry trifle,brandy cream sauce a few glasses of Bucks Fizz ( only 2 pounds a bottle in Tesco). I thought I would spread a little Christmas cracker joke -: I was reading on the website about the Rutherglen midgets team. So, "what does a Rutherglen midget do in a football team ? " - " He takes short corners ". Haha. Have a great Christmas. I need to rush. It is my turn to take a penalty on the WI. Its going to be a long long night.
Posted by The Snowman
Sunday 25th of December 2011 16:06:15
Merry Christmas to all Ruglonians: I used to love playing fotball on Christmas Day over the field in Fernhill. There was always a good atmosphere and lots of new balls. After a turkey dinner with the family, it was football time. Professional players used to moan it was difficult to play a few games over Christmas Day, Boxing Day, etc, but not for us. Every school holiday day was a football day. And it used to snow a lot in those days that made it even more fun.Of course you always got the grown up adult who had a few whiskies too much with Christmas dinner and would come over for a kick about, sometimes still wearing their slippers. They would dribble about like George Best until they knackered. Then it was time to go home and watch Morecambe and Wise.
Posted by Saint Nick.
Sunday 25th of December 2011 15:45:47
Merry Christmas to Everyone: I hope Santa brough you your favourite Football book. The festive season used to be a great time for football. The most goals I remember in one day is 66 goals. It was in the English first division on Boxing Day 1963. Blackpool 1-5 Chelsea, Burnley 6-1 Manchester United, Fulham 10-1 Ipswich Town, Leicester City 2-0 Everton, Liverpool 6-1 Stoke City, Nottingham Forest 3-3 Sheffield United, West Bromwich Albion 4-4 Tottenham Hotspur, Sheffield Wednesday 3-0 Bolton Wanderers, Wolverhampton Wanderers 3-3 Aston Villa, West Ham United 2-8 Blackburn Rovers. - I wonder what the most goals ever scored involving a team from Rutherglen is ? I remember playing in a school game in the Overtoun and we lost 11-0. Bad day. It was also raining.
Posted by Jack
Saturday 17th of December 2011 17:02:07
Re the last post about international players: There is also a number of players from Rutherglen who have represented Scotland at Schoolboy, Amateur, Youth or Junior level. John Brown, Raymond Deans, Billy Murdoch, Bobby Harvey, Paul McColl, Ian Waddell, Jackie Balloch, James Evans, Jim Fallon, Alan Forsythe, Robert McCallum, Paul McLaughlin. - If you know of any more names please let us know.
Posted by Jack Daniels
Saturday 17th of December 2011 17:00:03
The last post has got me thinking: I reckon Rutherglen has produced more full Scottish intenational players than any other town of a similar size in Scotland: 13 intenational players. Steve Archibald, Bobby Murdoch, Andy Walker, Harry Haddock, Steven Saunders, Jimmy McMenemy, Alex Bennett, Archie Baird, Eddie Rutherford, Colin Jackson, Bernie Slaven ( Ireland ), Simon Donnelly, Aiden McGeady ( Ireland). - Are there any more ?
Posted by Robert
Saturday 17th of December 2011 14:10:08
Feedback from the Scottish Museum of football at Hampden: I asked them the question " Has Rutherglen produced more top footballers than any other town in Scotland ?". - Please see response below. from: MuseumInfo <museuminfo @scottishfootballmuseum.org.uk> Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2011, 11:00 Subject: Rutherglen Hi Robert , The question " Has Rutherglen produced more top footballers than any other town in Scotland " is very difficult to confirm given the broad qualification criteria you have adopted but you could be right. As you may know at least 5 Scottish International footballers , Jock " Tiger " Shaw , Davie Shaw ( his brother ) , Drew Jarvie , Frank Brennan and Bobby Flavell all came from the small North Lanarkshire mining village of Annathill and there are many other examples throughout Scotland. Your website is very interesting and informative . Kind regards. Jim Thomson Scottish Football Museum Hampden Park Glasgow G42 9BA Tel 0141 6</museuminfo>
Posted by Liz
Saturday 17th of December 2011 14:05:22
I agree with the comments from the two WAGS below: Fitba crazy, Fitba mad. Right or Wrong that is life for men in Rutherglen. I just don't understand why men have such strong opinions: my old man never makes a mistake when he is watching a game on telly: he also thinks he is a better manager than Ferguson and that Jose bloke.
Posted by The Van Man
Saturday 17th of December 2011 09:07:55
Never realised that there was so many good players from the Rutherglen area. I am sure every one of them had their Archie Gemmell moment when playing. Its good stuff flicking through reading the different comments. I still think Bobby Murdoch is the Greatest player: nobody could dominate big big games under pressure like he did. Exceptional. Born to be a footballer.
Posted by william mcfarlane
Friday 16th of December 2011 23:21:11
cup final football strathclyde ametures
Posted by mk
Friday 16th of December 2011 10:46:11
does anyone remember a goalie called tam ray?? may have played for fernhill
Posted by Kylie
Thursday 15th of December 2011 19:48:35
I agree with the last post. I went down to that pub on the Main Street and watched a game with my man. My ears were numb: continuous shouts of abuse at the TV when a player lost the ball or made a mistake. And the poor referee: nobody liked him. I canny believe men get so passionate about football: when his team scored a goal he was hugging and dancing with his pals. At least I know he is alive now. Weird way to spend a Saturday but at least the pies were good at half time.
Posted by Rutherglen WAG
Wednesday 14th of December 2011 20:28:37
Football, football, football – is that all men from Rutherglen can talk about ? And why do they need a drink in hand when watching a game ? My old man only grunts a few times when football is on. Or shouts at the telly , “ Man On. Turn. Time. Go on my son. You’r a big diddy.” - If I try to have a conversation about the kids or paying the bills, then he goes in the huff. What is that all about ? Why does football make men moody ? It is just a game. That football on Sky telly is killing family life. I think if a man watches three games in a row on a Sunday he should be declared legally brain dead. He’s football 24 x 7. He’s obsessed. No wonder I enjoy a few glasses of Martini at the weekend. Cheers. p.s. I still dont understand that offside rule.
Posted by Geronimo
Tuesday 13th of December 2011 21:27:15
Thank God for football. - What would we have done without it on a Saturday ? Best Rutherglen team I have ever seen was was Avoca who played their home games at the Overtoun Park in the late 1960s. Unbeaten for years.
Posted by The Barman
Sunday 11th of December 2011 18:36:44
Surprised that Big Jim Tait doe not have more votes. Big Jim was a legend in the Hibs reserves in the 1960’s. The chant around Easter Rd was “Six foot two, eyes of blue, Big Jim Taite’s after you'”. Ferocious sight with his teeth out and steel capped boots on. Well-nigh unbeatable in the air and abrasive in the tackle, had a truly formidable physical presence which, on balance, compensated for a clumsiness when it came to the game's finer points. He was a talker and finger pointer on the park and liked to see 100% effort from everyone in the team He has lived in Rutherlen for donkeys years and can still be seen striding down the Main Street. Originally came from Govan around the same era as Sir Alex Ferguson. Personable big guy fellow, who likes to see local publicans earn a good living. Must be one of the fittest pensioners in the Royal Burgh. Lets see some more votes for big Jim.
Posted by Braveheart
Sunday 11th of December 2011 11:42:55
I know lots of the names of the payers selected so far to be in Rutherglens Greatest first team: looking good but could be stronger down the left side. Surprised that Sammy Lamont is not in the team. What a left peg. Rutherglen's Jim Baxter. Also hit better free kicks than Nakamura. I wonder if Sammy is still playing nowadays.
Posted by schalatchi
Sunday 11th of December 2011 10:50:22
referees???? now then now then now then....EDDIE LITTLE..let the chatting commence
Posted by Michael Wrong
Friday 09th of December 2011 21:14:15
It wisnae oranges we had a half time. It was a Woodbine. There was lots of chain smokers in our team. There was also one or two who would never drink water: it had to be a lager. Used to love the pub league on a Sunday: get the boiler suit off for a day and get the fitba boots on. Seem to remember The Vogue had a good team.
Posted by Andy Capp
Friday 09th of December 2011 20:01:51
Growing up football was played everywhere – in the streets, in the back garden, over the fields. It gave us plenty of laughs. I always remember those light plastic black and white World Cup balls: light as a feather and burst if it landed on anything sharp. You played in the rain until you were covered in mud: you played in winter if it was freezing cold with a balaclava and gloves your granny had knitted you : you played until your shoes were scrapped and scarred - I still remember my mother skelping me round the legs for wearing out a new pair of shoes: You played in huge games of 20 a side with guys who lived in your street: you played any position you liked: “ Total Football “ was invented when I was a wean playing in Fernhill, and not by Johan Cruyff and his Dutch pals in the World Cup I n1974. It was us bye the way.
Posted by Mr.Bean
Wednesday 07th of December 2011 20:22:37
I used to like a cup of team with loads of sugar before a game to give me energy. It never really worked: I was usually knackered by half time. If we were playing on a big pitch 100 x 75 yards ( like the big centre pitch in Fernhill ) , then forget it. I could never find that second wind that I heard professional footballers talking about. One of my other memories is having half an orange at half time. Remember that? - The trainer always brought oranges, even in winter. It was the only source of Vitamin C most of us got every week.
Posted by Virgil
Wednesday 07th of December 2011 20:13:55
re the post abour referees: I used to admire these guys in the 1970's. They could book you if they did not like your long hair or if you were wearing of any kind of jewellery. But it took a bit of courage to give some decisions when there was gangs of skinheads dressed in long black Crombie coats that rattled and wearing Doc Martin boots who were shouting abuse at you from the side of the pitch and questioning your parents. Worst place I remember playing is Larkhall. it is a long drive back to Rutherglen when your mini bus windoews have been panned in.
Posted by Billy
Wednesday 07th of December 2011 02:02:29
Tich Ward now you are talking about someone with power and determination a will to win second to none. Tich loved a hard contest and I can't think of a time he came off second best.
Posted by the Ginger Pele
Tuesday 06th of December 2011 18:00:25
Re the post below from Charlie about football injuries: I had never heard of a metatarsal injury until Wayne Rooney's big toe was highlighted on News at Ten every night for weeks before the World Cup. In my days the older style football boot with its hard toecap and high sides offered protection to the foot and ankle. Modern players boots are as stong as slippers. No wonder if someone stands on your foot now it is a stretcher case. Bring back real boots.
Posted by Trigger
Monday 05th of December 2011 17:16:37
I remember some of the old referees that used to take the Big games like a Scottish Cup game. They used to wear the all black referee gear with big white turns up on their socks: shiny boots, white laces and a new whistle. Some of them looked like a strong gust of wind would knock them over. They would never run about the pitch, and made most of their decisions from inside the centre circle. I think a lot of them must have been school teachers or Bank Managers. Some of them did not like swearing. Some words were OK, but others got you in trouble. If there was no official ref, then someone from the committee would take the whistle. If you got a homer. You had no chance.
Posted by admin
Monday 05th of December 2011 16:52:42
I think that James Murdoch may hold the record for the number of appearances in the Burgh Cup Final. I think he may have played in 5 finals: the first one when he was 7 years old at St.Marks. Can anyone confirm if this is accurate please. Also Willie Divers played in 4 finals: two winners medals and two loser medals.
Posted by Tam
Monday 05th of December 2011 16:48:52
re the last post: Gordon Hay - there is a name from the past. Blind as a bat but tough player. I remember seeing him in a game down at the Toryglen red ash pitches: I think he was playing for local team, Third Lanark. - The opposition centre took the kick off, and Gordy flattened the inside forward in approx 3 seconds. The guy had not even made it out of the centre circle! This should probably be in the Guinness Book of records as the quickest foul ever. - Last I heard of Gordon he was a doorman on the Cue Ball snooker Club in King Street many many years ago.
Posted by carrots mccarron
Monday 05th of December 2011 13:22:18
in answer to tams post it was third lanark amateurs in the 80s john kerr and gordy hay were the players,gordy even drove back
Posted by Old Crock
Monday 05th of December 2011 11:33:44
Can anyone tell me me about a player named Billy Boyd who who was born in the early 1900's ? I understand that he played for Clyde ( still their top goal scorer ever for most goals in a season ). He went to England and was also transferred to Manchester United. He used to play with the Regent Star juvenile team in Rutherglen: but I am unsure if he was born in Rutherglen or Cambuslang. If you know any deatils about his career please post them.
Posted by Albert E
Monday 05th of December 2011 11:11:53
I was reading about the origins of football: who invented the game that we all love ? I still don’t know that answer to that question, but I read about a game that is played in Burma. Groups of men kick a wicker work ball between, the ball never stops, or touches the ground: there are no goals, no winners or losers: just appreciation and enjoyment of the ball control involved. We used to do this as a warm up exercise before training up the Fernhill Parks. I think we should get the 5 best naturally gifted footballers from Rutherglen and challenge these Burmese to a game. Football at its simplest, ye cannea whack it.
Posted by Desperate Dan
Monday 05th of December 2011 10:17:19
Bad tempered over weight Rutherglen man interested in football, beer, cigarettes, curries and photography seeks beautiful Russian, Latin, or Asian woman for long nights of passion and listening to my old football stories and achievements. It would be an advantage if you have your own car, council house, and Sky telly. It would also be an advantage if you know some of the local history of Rutherglen. Please respond to my email address asap. It is optional if you want to include a photograph of you wearing your wearing your own favourite team football jersey. Applicants wearing a Glencairn or Clyde strip may have an advantage.
Posted by Kylie
Monday 05th of December 2011 10:06:11
Good Morning: I was just sitting watching that football on telly: can one of you guys tell me: a) What is the best way to take a penalty - do you just blast it or kick if slowly into a corner? It lookes very easy. (b).Tattoos - does every player or supporter need to get a tattoo? I might ask the old man to get me one for Christmas - maybe the Rutherglen Coat of Arms - it looks nice and colourful. (c). Are footballers all superstitios? I have noticed that if I wear my lucky knickers my team never gets beat. I dont know a lot of the names on this site, but good luck with the votes. I need to dash: the off licence opens up our way soon. I still miss Tam Brown's shop that was done the lane next to the Rutherglen Post office. Used to be the cheapest prices for a bottle of sparkling Martini.
Posted by Pie Man
Monday 05th of December 2011 09:53:14
A famous manager once said: " Going out drinking does not help team spirit. When you drink you just tell lies and talk rubbish. " What is the view from Rutherglen? Is bonding nights out a good thing: where would teams go in Rutherglen?
Posted by Tam
Sunday 04th of December 2011 21:13:26
Who was the team from Rutherglen who were playing up at Campbelltown? when two players broke their legs, but would not go to hospital. They jumped in the back of the mini bus and drove down to the Victoria Infirmary to be x-rayed and plastered.!
Posted by Andy
Sunday 04th of December 2011 21:09:01
" You boot that ball down the hill or into a hedge and you have to go and bring it back. Lost balls cost us money." - This was a common cry from the Committee men if they watched training. They were right of course , but every team had one eejit who would not go and collect his ball. Some players could start a fight with there shadows. I wonder if anyone nominated on this list was like that ?
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 04th of December 2011 21:04:53
I was playing in Overtoun Park one cold Saturday morning with the school team. It was that pitch right next to Stonelaw Rd. I went up to header a ball at a corner: I thought I was going to score: but the centre half nutted me and I went out like a light. Unconscious. Everything went black. I woke up at the side of the park. But in those days concussion was not reason to miss the game. I groggily walked back on the park. Within a minute the big centre half cleared his lines and booted the mould master right into my face. I dropped like a stone, unconscious again. This time I woke up in the shower room at the Overtou changing rooms my face thrust into a sink of freezing cold water. It is not all bad news: apparently we won the game, but I dont remember.
Posted by Charlie
Sunday 04th of December 2011 20:55:51
Injuries are all part of the game: sprained ankle, cuts, bumps and bruises. I must admit I do not remember many players having hamstring injuries or cruciate injuries when I played amateur football. Every team had an old " physio" with a magic sponge. " its nothing, nothing " he would tell you, " just run it off". A torn cartilage - I don't think so: here let me just shove that back in place for you. A wee bit of swelling never hurt anybody. And dont limp: the other team will play on that weakness. " I remember old Jack once broke his leg, but wouldn't limp ! " Get the cold hosepipe on any injury right away. Sympathy was not an option.
Posted by Auld Yin
Sunday 04th of December 2011 20:44:51
I am surprised that Napoleon McMenemy is not in the Greatest team or in the running for the Greatest Player from Rutherglen. He won 11 league championship medals and 6 Scottish Cup winners medals with Celtic and also one with Partick Thistle. He came from Rutherglen but signed for Celtic up a close in Union Street. It was said that there should be 2 balls on the field when he played. One for him and one for the other players. Napoleon also played for the Glencairn when they won the Scottish Junior Cup.
Posted by Duff
Sunday 04th of December 2011 20:33:14
I see that the great Brazilian player, Socrates, passed away today aged 57 years today. Do not know if anybody om this list ever seen him play, but he had a unique style and made football easy. He loved his football but loved many other things too: for example he liked smoking and a few beers. In the World Cup in 1982 he used to puff his way through a few packets of 20 every day ! He was nick named the Golden Heel because he liked to pass the ball back, run forward and collect his team mates pass.He once said Football was Art.He might be right. Ruglonians enjoy watching good players. Rest in peace Big Man. You were a joy to watch when you gubbed us in the World Cup Finals in 1982.
Posted by Huey
Sunday 04th of December 2011 20:20:52
Re the answer to the last post: There was a competition for primary schools called the McCaferty Shield (I think that is the correct spelling ) in the mid 1960's. St.Marks beat the Burgh school in an epic final in 1967. For further info see website www.thebarries.co.uk - this was created by a guy from Rutherglen. Also if you go to the Archives rooms at the library on Rutherglen Main Street you can see copies of all Rutherglen Reformers. Ask the librarian for the sports pages for May 1967 and it may have details of the game. All the local schools cups used to be reported. Fascinating reading about some of the games and players. Great way to spend an hour or two.
Posted by mk
Saturday 03rd of December 2011 10:39:16
can anyone tell me of a cup competition called,the mcCarthur cup,,,or something along those lines,in my time at st marks,we were awarded it due to the other 2 teams getting thrown out for on field trouble,i think the teams were st columbkilles and spittal......cant remember year,,,very early 70sss
Posted by found in a field..one cold morning
Tuesday 29th of November 2011 22:31:48
ruglens finest team would have the best pressed strip ever,,,and that would all be down to eddie mc callum..great lad,,,brilliant on the murphy richards...
Posted by Sandy
Tuesday 29th of November 2011 21:51:27
The smell of freshly cut football green grass in the air on a sunny summers Saturday morning - I loved it. Or training down the park under dank flood/street lights with the rain peeing down. I loved that too. Or training in the “ gym” of the school on a cold frosty night – I loved that too. Always loved football since I first learned to walk up the Blackfaulds Road. It is funny how some memories stick in your head from childhood. I wish I could remember scoring my first goal. I wish I could remember my first pair of football boots. You meet lots of good people, and make lots of friends when playing in the Rutherglen teams. Enjoy it while you can and never retire until the old bones give up.
Posted by Rutherglen WAG
Sunday 27th of November 2011 22:50:19
Behind every good footballer there is a great woman. We are the ones who have to put up with their football fantasies and schoolboy antics. We are the ones who have to do the washing of the muddy training stuff and iron it for his next important training session. We are the ones who have to listen to the endless stories of the goal he scored in the cup final. He might be captain of his team and order his football mates about, but no in my house. I'm the Boss. He is lucky - I like football but lots of my pals think it is just an execuse to get out the house.
Posted by Frankie
Sunday 27th of November 2011 17:51:29
Most footballers have the same pre match ritual, superstitions or anxieties.: Some put on their left sock first: some remove their teeth: some get irritable and don't want fun: some wear no jocks under their shorts: some always like to be last out of the dressing room: some putt heir shinguards on before their boots: some always get a leg massge from the trainer: some like massging themselves with thick oil: some dont get changed to 20 mins before the game: some always chew gum: some always wear their lucky clothes every game until they get beat: some kiss their wedding ring: some like to to to the kazzi just as the referee is checking the boots: some like to read the newspapers: What is the stangest superstition you have heard about or seen in your team in Rutherglen ?
Posted by Phil
Saturday 26th of November 2011 13:53:52
If you want to see the origins of football get your Mrs to buy you the DVD set " History of Football - the Beautiful Game" for your Christmas. It is introduced by Hugo Sanchez who played for Real Madrid and Mexico. ( He was Pele's favourite player - that is some statement for your CV ). It shows a clip of the oldest football film in the world,taken in 1897. The historians think it may be of Arsenal. There is also some great clips from 1898, 1901, 1905, 1906, 1907 of various teams. I wonder what football was like in Rutherglen at the start of 1900's - does anyone know ?
Posted by Bummer Campbell
Saturday 26th of November 2011 13:46:32
If you want to see a tough game of fooball go to www.youtube.co.uk and keyin " Calacio Storico". This ia game that is played every year in Florence Italy. It has ben played since around 1580. Twenty Five players in each team,using both feet and hands. Goals can be scored by throwing the ball over a designated spot on the perimeter of the field. The playing field is a giant sand pit with a goal running the width of each end. It is a square go with football thrown in. It has defenders, midfielders, forwards and 3 goalies in a team! Toughest football game in the world. I think we should introduce this on Rutherglen Main Street once a year: it would bring in some tourists to the local community. Henry Carr could play in goals: he was a hard keeper and would punch your lights out if you tried to intimidate him. Still see him on the Main Street going for his daily walk to keep fit - and he is now in his 70's.
Posted by Tank
Saturday 26th of November 2011 12:40:15
The Ba' game is played every Christmas and New Year's Day in Kirkwall, Orkney. This traditional game of mass football is played in the streets of the town between the Uppies and the Doonies. The game has been played in its present form since about 1850. I think this should be introduced on the Rutherglen Main Street on New Years Day. It would give guys something to do. n.b.This game can be violent. For the history of the Ba game see www.bagame.com
Posted by Big Paul
Friday 25th of November 2011 20:03:24
Rutherglens Greatest team should only be of interest who live or have lived in the Burgh. But look at the number of Votes - there are over 4,400 today! - Rutherglen only has a population of about 26,000 people according to Google: This is some amount of votes to find out the greatest player. Are ex pat Ruglonians from overseas voting ?
Posted by Andy
Friday 25th of November 2011 19:51:55
I still remember the smell of liniment at the dressing rooms at the Overtoun Park just before a game. Also all the young guys talked non stop about stuff other than football at training : Ford Capri cars ( had to be black ): girls in miniskirts, holidays especially Majorca, clothes ( flair trousers, long collared shirts, platform shoes), girls in miniskirts, the bookies, going for a pint in that wee bar above Chapmans, money, girls in miniskirts, changing jobs, girls in miniskirts, George Best haircut: going for a dance in that hall across from the police station in King Street. Magic days. Loved every minute. Still miss the patter. Most of them are granddads now.
Posted by Big Ned
Thursday 24th of November 2011 19:52:30
Who should be in the greatest Team is probably the best local pub conversation just now. How good was Bobby Murdoch, did you ever see him plyaing ? - Was Steve Archibald a better scorer than Andy Walker ? - Are you sure McGeady lived in Rutherglen as a boy ? - I would like to have seen Willie Robb of the Rangers playing he sounds like some goalkeeper. - Was Dick McLaughlin a harder player than Jackie Balloch ? I thought there was 4 Murdoch brothers who played football to a good level ? - Willie Divers - is that the guy from Spittal who palyed for Luton. Everybody has an opinion.
Posted by Tam
Thursday 24th of November 2011 19:46:27
I always liked a buttered piece and square sausage with brown sauce for my pre match meal on a Saturday. Played for the school team in the morning, rushed home for my sandwich and watched a bit of the Saint and Greaves TV football show, then out to play with my local amateur team in the afternoon. Most players had pre match food: soup, sausage roll, toast, jam, steak, tea, scrambled egg, Mars bar,crisps, muffin,corn flakes, chicken nuggets, beans, pakora, etc etc. I wonder what the Greatest players liked before a game? Any food favourites ?
Posted by Kevin
Thursday 24th of November 2011 19:37:41
The Rutherglen Greatest team today ( 24/11/11 ) looks amazing: Danny Houston, Steven Saunders, Alan Forsyth, Harry Haddock, Bobby Murdoch, James Murdoch, Billy Murdoch, Willie Divers, Bernie Grant, Steve Archibald and Aiden McGeady. - In their prime these guys would have beat most teams in the Scottish Premier League today ! Keep the Votes coming.
Posted by Tam
Wednesday 23rd of November 2011 20:07:47
We never seen a ball at pre season. Done more miles than a Kenyan. Some nights I was so tired I could not take off my jersey in the changing room. But there was always somebody in the team who loved pre season and made the long runs look easy. It was usually someone who did not like a drink at weekends.
Posted by Kenny
Wednesday 23rd of November 2011 20:03:31
Did anyone on this list enjoy pre season training ? - Professional teams used to go to the sand dunes. Rutherglen teams used to go to the Cathkin Braes. Sprinting to the top of a hill for the 10th time while you were vomiting was not easy. But you felt fit after it, provided you had not been eaten alive by the midgies on warm summer nights. I remember one night we all went on a long run all across the Braes, and lost a new player in the woods. Nobody noticed until we were back in the dressing room.
Posted by Kenny
Wednesday 23rd of November 2011 19:51:39
There is a lot to be said for the old rubbled black and red ash parks around the Burgh: playing on them improved your touch when you graduated to playing a game on a big flat grass park.
Posted by Kenny
Wednesday 23rd of November 2011 19:49:39
Sometimes we had old clothes poles for goal posts. If there was a crowd of us the two oldest players ( or whoever owned the ball )would pick the teams. The best players always got selected first. The last two selected usually went in goals, unless there was some volunteers to be the goalies. 21 the winner was a common game. You could always tell who the good players were going to be.I am sure every player who is selected for Rutherglens Greatest team would remember similar games when they first put on a pair of football boots or sandshoes.
Posted by Kenny
Wednesday 23rd of November 2011 19:43:28
Four Jumpers, a goalie, a ball, and a couple of pals and you could play a game anywhere. Games were unstructured and you could play on the street or a bit of wasteland. There used to be a wee park next to the Bluebell Woods beside the burn. ( Come out of St.Marks church, take a right, and it was a few hundred yards along the way heading towards the Varney houses ). Lots of good games there on the way home from school. Played until dark or your tea was ready. There was a few good players came from the Hillend Rd area which next to the "pitch". Happy day nothing to worry except a game with your pals and homework.
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 22nd of November 2011 22:00:19
That's true
Posted by Alex
Tuesday 22nd of November 2011 21:19:35
I reckon 9 out of the 11 players currently voted into Rutherglens Greatest Team ( November 2011 ) played full time professional football. The only two who did not play full time were Danny Houston and Scott Crawford: - can anyone confirm if this is accurate please?
Posted by gerry
Tuesday 22nd of November 2011 21:13:17
Smallest dressing rooms in Rutherglen were the two wee huts at the Spittal football parks. It was like getting changed in the back of a van.I don’t think there was a shower in there, bit I seem to remember there was a Big porcelain sink and a rusty tap. You had to stand in a queue to get a mouthful of cold water on a hot day. In winter there was a paraffin lamp ( or was it a two bar heater) to heat up frozend hands after a game. Othere memories were the number of broken elastic bands on the muddy floor: there were used to hold up your socks and guranteed to give you varicose veins in later life. The goalmouths on the parks were bare most of the year , and the divots on the park injured many an ankle. But it never stopped you from playing.
Posted by Martin
Tuesday 22nd of November 2011 19:49:53
Kenny Dalglish would have been in the Rutherglen Greatest Team, but unfortunately he was born in Dalmarnock just a few miles from the Burgh boundary line. One that got away from the team.
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 22nd of November 2011 15:53:37
Who is the Greatest female footballler from Rutherglen? Collette McCallum must be the favourite. She was born in Rutherglen in 1986. Her dad was Robert who came from Fernhill and played for Dumbarton. Her Mum, Margaret, was a midwife at Rutherglen Maternity and may have delivered some of the best players to come out of Rutherglen. They stayed in the house directly across the road from St.Columbkilles primary school. They then emigrated to Australia. Collettte is vice captain of Australia and played in Germany in 2011 World Cup. Now lives in Perth Australia, but has also played in America’s women’s league. She is a midfield player. She was selected to the FIFA All-Star squad at the 2006 FIFA U-20 World Cup. The Rutherglen Reformer did a good story on Collette in April 2011. – Are there are other top women’s players from Rutherglen ?
Posted by Dunky
Tuesday 22nd of November 2011 14:53:14
The Laws of football state that a team consists of 11 players. But in some teams some players do the work of 2 men. It is usually the midfield players ( or in my day the half backs or inside forwards). They were usually the fittest: a good midfielder will cover over 7 miles in a game.Defenders are always over protected in my opinion. They get away with murder. I would like to propose a change to the Rutherglen team formation and change from a 3-5-2 formation to a 2-5-3 formation. Need more nominations and votes for the exciting players in football. Too few goals are scored in modern day football now, and that because most teams play too many defenders. Rutherglen always had good half backs, inside forwards and centers.
Posted by Jock
Tuesday 22nd of November 2011 14:39:07
I do not know about the Greatest player but the greatest referee was Jack Mowat who came from Rutherglen. He refereed one of the greatest games in the history of football. The 1960 European Cup Final at Hampden Park when Real Madrid beat Eintracht Frankfurt 7-3 in front of 135, 000 fans. I think he was 52 years old when he refereed that game. He also refereed the League Cup final in 1957 when Celtic beat Rangers 7-1. Jack was a Scottish first division referee between 1946 and 1960. He didn't officiate that many matches internationally (11 A-country matches) , and there was one match in the 1958 World Cup.
Posted by Sweeper
Tuesday 22nd of November 2011 14:08:24
Another nightmare about Blairbeth was trying to take a corner kick from within the biggest arcs in the Burgh. They were huge and surrounded by new sawdust and that while emulsion pain stuff that was used to line the parks. It was funny watching the outside forwards trying to ping in a corner from behind this rubble.
Posted by Sweeper
Tuesday 22nd of November 2011 10:14:22
In ye olde tymes the worst pitch in Rutherglen was that big cowfield at the Blairbeth Rd traffic lights. Especially when you were playing uphill - the slope was bigger than Easter Rd. When it was raining or the ground was snow covered there was always a few casualties. Also the sawdust lines were the highest in football - it was difficult to control the ball, or for the goalie to make a simple save, if it hit the line and bounced 6 inches high: the ball could go anywhere. I have heard the old saying that a winger should have sawdust on his boots, but this place was ridiculous for a good game. Also passing buses ( number 21 or 46 )were also a target for defenders clearing their lines.
Posted by Bookies runner
Monday 21st of November 2011 20:34:28
Also like to see a Goalie who can spook the opposition player at Penalty kicks. He should be able to save 1 out of every 3 penalties. If he can catch a penalty with one hand that would be a bonus. Great keepers never have to make good saves. And never go through bad patches : they need to be consistent. Big Danny Houston might be the man to select between the sticks for the Rutherglen team. He is also really good at putting up goal nets without needing those big ladders that are a Health and Safety risk. Remember them ? Nets used to be luxury. Every body has a favourite goalie - who is yours ? keep Voting.
Posted by Gambler
Monday 21st of November 2011 20:25:02
The Goalie is the most important player in the team. Composure, Concentration, Felix the Cat agility, good at crosses, and a good pair of hands are all needed.I also like to see a keeper with a good kick out and throw out.Does anybody remember the monstrous kickouts from some keepers on the smaller pitches at Fernhill: one bounce and it was at the other end of the pitch and then out the park and over the fence and down the hill! The Gofer had to chase it. Also like to see a goalie who playes in goals in training and does not run about like he is a world class midfield player.
Posted by Wee Tommy
Sunday 20th of November 2011 22:38:50
One of the Greatest quotes in football was about George Best: " Pele called me the greatest footballer in the world. That is the ultimate salute to my life… If I had been born ugly, you’d never have heard of Pele… If you had given me a choice between beating four defenders and smashing in a goal from 30 yards, or going to bed with Miss World, it would have been difficult. Luckily, I had both. " - Many people reckon he was the best ever player from the UK: has Rutherglen ever had anyone as good at dribbling as Georgie Best? - Did anyone see big Ian McGuigan from the Spittal play - once he got the ball you never seen it again for a minute or two. Ball magician who went past defenders like they were not there.... Should be in the Rutherglens Greatest team.
Posted by Jimmy
Sunday 20th of November 2011 22:26:59
" The rules of footballe in Rutherglen are very simple, basically it is this: if it moves, kick it. If it doesn't move, kick it until it does. " Dick McLaaghlin, ex Fernhill defender.
Posted by Alec
Sunday 20th of November 2011 22:12:54
Every player from Rutherglen has had a " Match of My Life" - a game when you played really well and you knew that you loved playing football. What games springs to your mind for you ? - Why ? Where was it ?
Posted by Old Yin
Sunday 20th of November 2011 12:54:27
There was never an execuse to be bored if you had a football, some pals, and a spare bit of ground. This was before the invention of computers and the telly. Good times kicking a ball every hour of the day.
Posted by Billy
Sunday 20th of November 2011 12:47:44
Playing keepie uppie headers on the gable wall where we stayed is one of my memories. Got to 50 one time - a Ruglen record maybe. Must have drove old Mrs.D in the end house mad.
Posted by Foxy
Sunday 20th of November 2011 12:27:44
One of my great memories of growing up in Rutherglen is Christmas morning and a new pair of football boots and an orange bladder with a lace. It was always cold and frosty but everyone went down the local field to show off their gifts from Santa. Simple days when I think about it.
Posted by Mr T
Sunday 20th of November 2011 11:14:16
Eighty to ninety per cent of management is about getting the right players on the field and into your club. The Rutherglen's Greatest team is looking very strong in some areas but needs strengthened up front. The midfield 5 look a great mix. Dont think they would lose many battles. The manager of this team would never have to lose his temper to get this team motivated.
Posted by John Motson
Saturday 19th of November 2011 20:38:06
Competition is good for this team: voting is close in some positions. I will vote Danny for the goalkeeper position: he caught more crosses one handed than Pat Jennings. Also if there is a vote to nominate " the player who spent the longest time in the shower " Danny would win. Must be the cleanest goalie in the Burgh.
Posted by Mr.T
Saturday 19th of November 2011 10:27:42
If I was maanger of the Greatest team it would be Bobby Murdoch and ten others.
Posted by Rutherglen Rover
Saturday 19th of November 2011 01:50:20
If you are interested in the history of Rutherglen go onto www.youtube.co.uk and keyin " rutherglen glasgow ". Some fantastic information about our unique town. I wonder if the old Potteries factory had a footbal team?
Posted by Kev
Saturday 19th of November 2011 01:03:30
Proud to be a Ruglonian when I see some of the names on this list. Looking forward to seeing who is voted the Best player. I also like the Main Street when there is a big Scotland game on at Hampden. The Kilties from all parts of the country invade Rutherglen on their way to Hampden and it is great to see the Tartan Army proudly walking along the Main Street and drinking the pubs dry. Rutherglen is the hub of Scottish football.
Posted by Castlemilk Wag
Saturday 19th of November 2011 00:42:01
Just having wee check of the photos of all the footballers who have been nominated so far. Handsome team. Who is number 24 - his face looks familiar. Did he used to go to the Glenruth on a Sunday night? I think he bought me a half pint of a Moscow Mule one night. Also player number 100 looks familiar - did he go to the Plaza Ballroom over on Victoria Rd on a Monday night, or was it the Barrowland on a Thursday. His face looks familiar and I think he told me he played for Rangers. Long time ago. Anyway, can any of you guys expalin the offside rule to me : I still dont get it. Must go - I ve got a half bottle of ice cold Smirnoff to finish. Thank God it is Friday night. Must dash. p.s. I also think I had a slow dance with number 100 in the Glens Club one Saturday afternoon. Music was great.
Posted by Oz
Saturday 19th of November 2011 00:26:52
Re the post below about Fernhill park dressing rooms: I remember that day a stark naked player chased a referee after a game down that corridor. Not sure what that was all about but probably something serious like a dodgy offside decision.
Posted by Arthur Montford
Saturday 19th of November 2011 00:20:42
Not sure about the answer below about the Goalie in the Fog: but once upon a time there was a Goalie from Rutherglen who on a a Saturday night used to watch Match of The Day with a curry, a can of Special Brew , while wearing his Goalkeeeprs kit. He used to dive about the couch in anticipation of every shot at goal. Wonderful night in watching Gary Lineker, Alan Hansen and all the other cartoon characters who never offer a serious opinion about football. It would be much more interesting if you picked 5 soccer experts from the Vogue, Quarry Bar, Chapmans, Victoria Bar and the Stirrup Cup to talk about the Premiership greatest games/players. Rutherglens Greatest team would beat the Premiership greatest team easy peasy.
Posted by Rutherglen Rover
Friday 18th of November 2011 20:05:15
Everyone who has been nominated for Rutherglens Greatest player would have started out playing football somewhere, be it on the streets, in a park, or at school, or kicking a ball against a wall. Do you remember where you first started ? There must be hundreds of grassroots football heroes in the Rutherglen community. Get them nominated if you know someone who deserves it.
Posted by Danny
Thursday 17th of November 2011 21:25:00
Name the Rutherglen Goalie: it is a cold freezing day at the Overtoun Park pitches. The fog started to come down. The referee stopped the game, but then restarted it. The Goalie has nothing to do and stamps his feet to keep warm while peering into the fog. It is very quiet. After a while a black figure ( the parkie ) comes out of the fog and says to The Goalie " What are you playing at - the game was abandoned 10 minutes ago ! " When The Goalie reached the warmth of the dressing room his team mates were doubled up with laughter. Nobody told the Goalie. p.s. This guy is in the running to be in Rutherglens Greatest team.
Posted by Peter
Thursday 17th of November 2011 21:16:14
You can take the man out of Rutherglen but you can't take Rutherglen out of the man. Nice wee website and good to read about football in Rutheglen. When I was a boy playing up at the Bankhead pool ( remember that ?) we played with a bundle of rags or newspapers wrapped in string. The good days and the town was full of ball playing magicians. Nothing stopped you from playing a game: your arm hanging down broken from the shoulder was just a flesh wound. I've seen lots of grand players from Rutherglen - Bobby Murdoch was the best in my opinion.
Posted by Main Street Moaner
Thursday 17th of November 2011 21:04:20
'Lord Nelson! Lord Beaverbrook! Sir Winston Churchill! Sir Anthony Eden! Clement Attlee! Henry Cooper! Lady Diana! Maggie Thatcher - can you hear me, Maggie Thatcher! Your boys took one hell of a beating! Your boys took one hell of a beating!' Bjorge Lillelien on Norwegian TV in 1981 when Norway beat England in the World Cup. What a way to describe a victory. Goaaaaaal - One of footballs best ever Sports commentaries. What is the best victory celebration from a team from Rutherglen?
Posted by mk
Thursday 17th of November 2011 11:23:55
big harvey ? a big yes...sorry scott..not in the same league
Posted by anonymous
Wednesday 16th of November 2011 22:22:43
would have paul harvey at centre forward instead of scott crawford
Posted by Joe
Tuesday 15th of November 2011 21:35:43
Football in Rutherglen was a Social safety valve in the old days. Men worked 6 days a week and Saturday aftenoon was football day. If you played in a team the goal was to make sure you did not get a broken shin or worse and miss your work. This was the days of hacking, shoulders charges, and pure agrression. Saturday was the best day of the week: football, a bit of gambling if you had a few pennies, a few bottles of stout, occassional prize fighting, and a sing song on the walk home. A perfect day out. Funny how things have not changed so much down the generations of Ruglonians.
Posted by harry
Tuesday 15th of November 2011 21:22:20
The goalkeeper for this team would have the easiest job in football. Once he had marked out the centre of his six yard line with that deep stud mark line that goalies used to make ( no idea why they did that ) he could light up a Pantella cigar, lean against the post and just watch the game and all the terrfic players in this team. He would not a shot to save.
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 13th of November 2011 22:28:28
in his book, Archie Baird also mentions two other players from Rutherglen Academy school team in the 1930's: " two of my school team mates were to make it into the Senior football ranks also: Alec Cross to Queens Park and Adam Little to Rangers. The school team was run by a quietly spoken gentleman, Mr.William Douglas, who taught us Latin. He picked the team and we wore real jerseys and shorts and we travelled around Glasgow to play on genuine grass pitches "
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 13th of November 2011 22:19:56
Continued from the last post below: " a jacket or trouser pocket, it was more portable than the famous " tanner ball ". The unwilling road to school , at least a mile and a half long, became for me a joy of kicking and trapping and passing: the walls and street kerbs and dustbins imaginary goals and opponents as a I ran almost non stop from home to playground.
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 13th of November 2011 22:15:34
Extract from Archie Baird book: " Family of Four ": He came from Rutherglen: was captured POW in the Second World War: played for the great Aberdeen team of the late 1940's and played for Scotland: his father was a volunterr air raid warden during the war: A German bomber heading for the blitz of Clydebank dropped a bomb over Rutherglen which hit the area around Rutherglen Academy old school on Stonelaw Rd and killed six people: his Dad helped dig out the bodies: In his book Archie describes football in Rutherglen in the 1930'S.: " Football was something that was not just played - it was meat and drink and yes sometimes sleep too. I was a sport besotted youngster fascinated by a sphere that could be kicked. Sometimes it was a newspaper screwed up tight or a bundle of rags tied with a string or even for want of anything better a round pebble or stone. But the essential piece of equipment for the budding footballer in those days in Rutherglen was the tennis ball. Small enough to go into
Posted by John
Sunday 13th of November 2011 20:27:47
Some players did not play well when we travelled to away games: not sure if it was because the wee tight ash parks in Rutherglen made the game easier, but when you went away to play on big wide grass parks with a smooth surface the game was too fast for some players. Probably the biggest park I played on was the Glasgow Uni park: there was no way you could take a corner kick and it would reach the centre of the goals. You had to be fit to play on some of the big parks.
Posted by Geordie
Sunday 13th of November 2011 20:22:50
The 50 pitches over at Govan was also a hard place to go to : never won many games there. Also it was a day out from Rutherglen when going to play Drumchapel Amateurs down at the Duntocher Hibs park. They were always a great amateur team: probably the best in Scotland at that time.
Posted by Jimmy
Sunday 13th of November 2011 20:19:01
The Glasgow Green was also a tough place to play. We used to walk from the Rutherglen Main Street down the Glasgow Road past Southcroft and then into the " fog" outside the White's Chemical works ( it always seemed to be misty down there ) over the bridge and up to the Green. Dozens of games going on at the same time on a Saturday afternoon: always hard physical games no matter who you were playing.
Posted by Joe
Sunday 13th of November 2011 19:34:56
I agree that there was some intimidating away games around Glasgow. I remember playing up at the parks behind Glenee school in Castlemilk and after the game got chased almost the full length of Ardencraig Rd. I just got the safety of the Hole in the Wall: never knew I was so quick. Also remember a game up near Possil, cany remember the name of the pitches, but we got chased out of there also. But it could have been worse: in the age of Glasgow's "No Mean City" image, about the Gorbals in the late 1950's and early 1960s and the "razor king', and the gangs running amok, and the infamous "square goes " behind the goals, I would not have fancied an away tie to the old Gorbals in the Cup. There was some great players from the Gorbals all as hard as nails.
Posted by Man in the Know
Sunday 13th of November 2011 17:09:48
You also had to be brave to be a referee or flag waving linesman in these Juvenile games. If you were a " homer " who made too many unfair decisions you could end up in the Victoria Infirmary getting the flag surgically removed. Has anyone on this list any good stories about biased refs or linesmen who were in capable of giving a decision against their team ?
Posted by Man in the Know
Sunday 13th of November 2011 17:03:46
Re the last post and the comment about Juvenile football: there was no age limit. If you signed for a local Rutherglen juvenile team at 16 years old, then you could be in the same team as players twice your age. This was the introduction into the mans world of football. You had to learn quick and not be intimitaded when the old guy in the team you were playing against would threated to " Break your legs - both of them " . And he meant it. The games were also watched by big intimidating crowds close to the touchlines who would threaten to give you a " kickin ". Many of the things that happened were just an extension to the gang warfare that was rife around the city of Glasgow. Many a game was stopped when the ball was burst with a knife wound. Juvenile football was popular but hard.
Posted by Pub Crawler
Sunday 13th of November 2011 16:50:29
The Rutherglen team is starting to look stong and some great names in the first XL.Many years ago progress in footbal started by playing for the school team , through to amateur, juvenile or a junior team until you were spotted by a Scout of a senior club and eventually asked to sign for them. There used to be a Celtic scout came from Cathkin ( I think his name was Chic Cairney ) and whenever he came to watch a local game you always wondered who he was watching. But probably the most famous scout ever was Bobby Calder who worked for Aberdeen, but came from Fernhill. Also Sir Bob Kelly who was chairman of Celtic during the days of the Lisbon Lions. He could often be seen on a Saturday morning watching games in the Overtoun Park, sometimes with Jock Stein who lived in Burnside for a wee while.Rutherglen was a great place for scouts to see potentially great players.
Posted by Football Nut
Saturday 12th of November 2011 23:46:29
Anybody got any Roy of the Rovers type stories from players from Rutherglen. He was the comic book King of Melchester Rovers. Good looks, charisma, beautiful Mrs, own house, own car, scored impossible goals, a legend. - Must be a Roy somewhere in the ancient Burgh.
Posted by Mickey
Saturday 12th of November 2011 23:35:21
Play on Grass or the black or red Ash ? - most guys from Rutherglen preferred to play the beautiful game on the local ash parks. Cant image the next generation of Rutherglens Greatest players playing on a surface like the Public parks.
Posted by anonymous
Saturday 12th of November 2011 22:55:19
Talking about brothers. The Martins from Fernhill were as good as anyone.They had so much ability and Mentalness!!!!! One team you do not want to play against included The Martins,Jamie ,Andy and David,The Bennetts,Tam and John ,The Brennans,Dougie,Steph and Stuart, the Lloyds ,Davie and Brian -----add Danny Houston to that list and it's a recipe for A FIGHT EVERY GAME ---------- Amongst each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would pay good money to see that team -- even though the game would last about 7 minutes.
Posted by Town Cryer
Saturday 12th of November 2011 21:48:48
Can anyone confirm that the Burgh Cup first started in 1910 ? Over 100 years ago !! I read in the Reformer it was started by the Given family who gave it to Rutherglen Glencairn and they couldn’t find a use for it so they gave it to the town council and it became the Burgh Cup, although the Given name is still on the cup for all to see. -
Posted by Tommy
Saturday 12th of November 2011 21:11:37
I see that there is only only set of brothers in the Rutherglens Greatest eleven players - the Murdoch brothers : Bobby and Billy. - There must be more brothers from Rutherglen who should be considered for the team ? Any ideas ? The Carrs, the Bennets , the Harveys ( Sonny and Tucker ), , the McKeowns , etc etc etc. -
Posted by anonymous
Saturday 12th of November 2011 14:16:40
Please have a look at the Alzheimer’s charity site, www.FootballMemories.org.uk - They work with Alzheimer patients, using football stories/memories to help men suffering from this dreadful condition. Alzheimer Scotland are looking for people who like to talk about football.By volunteering at one of their Football Reminiscence centres, you can improve the lives of people with dementia by helping them talk about the games and the players of their past. They will train you to plan and lead these discussions. You'll make a big difference. .
Posted by rutherglen rover
Saturday 12th of November 2011 14:07:01
One of the most famous games played in Rutherglen was probably in the 1950’s when St.Columbkilles school were drawn against St.Columba’s from ViewPark in the Cup at the Overtoun Park. Both two really good teams and a big crowd came to watch the game – about 400 people. They were given the privilege of playing on the best park which was usually reserved for the local Regent Star team. The Salvation Army went around the crowd with their tin cups collecting pennies. The Rutherglen team had heard a lot about St.Columba’s and a wee red haired winger called Jimmy Johnstone. This wee skinny guy came out the dressing room with his shorts looking too big for him. Before the game he shook hands with Bobby Murdoch who was playing for St.Columbkilles. In the next decade these two young players would be winning the European Cup and recognised throughout the world of football as great players. And they shook hands on a pitch in Rutherglen. Anyway Jimmy Johnstone was brilliant i
Posted by Rutherglen Rover
Saturday 12th of November 2011 14:05:44
Many epic games from Burgh Cup Finals, pub league cup finals, amateur team battles, have taken place on the pitches of Ruglen. There have many good football teams around the Rutherglen district and every team had good players: Glencairn Juveniles, Regent Star, Rutherglen Waverley, St.Andrews, Shawfield Amateurs, Phoenix Works, Dalmarnock, Odeon Star, County Vics, Gallowflat, St.Andrews, Park Royal, Quay Amateurs, Blairbeth Parish team, Bristol City boys club, Rutherglen West, Third Lanark, Fernhill Athletic, Cathkin United, Rutherglen Vics, Church league teams, Boys Guild teams, school teams, BB teams, pub teams and many many others. Maybe the best team was Avoca who played at the Overtoun Park and were unbeaten in their home games for several years. They were a tough team.
Posted by Rutherglen Rover
Saturday 12th of November 2011 14:04:12
Many people will remember all the football parks around the Burgh. The black ash pitches in the Overtoun Park where it was suicidal to do a slide tackle: or down the Burnhill : or Southcroft Park: or the Alleybank down near Farme Cross: or the big grass pitch at the Blairbeth traffic lights which was a quagmire on a wet day: or the Quay Road pitch: or the big red ash parks at Fernhill shops and the big crowds that used to come every summer to watch the games against the Germans: or the Spittal grass pitches, and the black ash pitches over the fence at Kings Park: or the Loch pitch: or the pitches up behind Kirkriggs school: or Shawfield stadium ( I know at it was said that half of Shawfield stadium was in Glasgow and the other half was in Rutherglen. I am unsure if this is a local myth or is a fact. )
Posted by Frankie
Saturday 12th of November 2011 10:44:31
I liked the post about the Football Dressing rooms: up at the Fernhill parks the dressing rooms were small. But there was a long corridor that players had to walk down until they came out into the Stadium of Light: still remember the noise of the metal studs as the players approached battle at 3 oclock on a Saturday afternoon. That is the best time to play. Also remember some of the running battles in the corridors after a game: visiting teams could not get out onto their mini bus quick enough against those tough Fernhill boys. I seem to remember there was also a big hall in the Fernhill Stadia that was used for dances and social night and presenting medals to teams. It was probably the best football parks in the burgh when I was growing up. I have heard it is all gone now. Shame.
Posted by hoots mon
Friday 11th of November 2011 23:39:59
we all remember fernhill pitches,,but does anyone remember the slabs,,,or the black square,,many a long battle on a hot summers night was fought out at these,,el stadios
Posted by Gordon
Friday 11th of November 2011 22:17:19
Growing up in Rutherglen if you owned a football then you had friends for life, - at least until the ba got burst. The long days of summer over the fields where the Fernhill pitches were eventually built you would see 20 a side games. In the evening men who had just finished their work would join in before they went home for dinner. Still wearing their working toe capped boots they would think nothing of tackling a 10 year old. Games would be played until dark or 21 the winner. It would be same again the following night. Black and White TV was crap and sometimes the aerial was no good up in the hills, so you were always out kicking a ball. Summer time was magic. The place was full of good footballers. Fernhill had the best street teams in the burgh.
Posted by Benny
Thursday 10th of November 2011 23:25:09
The Smell of the Dressing room never leaves you. Especially the Winter Green on a cold winters day. Our team was mediocre but we always smelled fit. A dressing room is a strange place before a game: some players just want to be quiet: some get nervous: some talk too much: some dont listen to the manager: some never get out of the bog: some never get off the massage table: some read the Daily Record racing section: some just want the game to be finished so they can go for a pint: some take a cold shower or soak in a warm bath: some are always asking what the win bonus is: some have a sausage roll or a bit of spearment chewing gum: some are superstitious. Fantastic place to be.
Posted by carrots
Thursday 10th of November 2011 16:00:29
the best drinking team had to be uranus in the 80s. if the game was off in the saturday morning we would be in the vogue for half nine. one saturday as the doors opened at 11 wee craigie speirs got carried oot pished muych to the astonishment of folk oot for their morning paper.
Posted by daniel fergus mcgrain
Wednesday 09th of November 2011 23:41:11
everyone says,a good goalie,centre half and centreforward are the key to success,,i disagree,,the key to ruggie fc success is two scrapping overlapping fullbacks,if they shine,the whole team shines
Posted by El Hadji Diouf
Tuesday 08th of November 2011 20:54:39
1. What goes on in the dressing room stays in the dressing room! The Golden Rule of the team: 2. No diving, especially if you are playing on an ash park 3. Always treat the referee with respect. It is important to have discipline in the team.
Posted by Baggio
Tuesday 08th of November 2011 20:35:51
We win as a team, we lose as a team! - The Greatest team motto for the jersys .
Posted by Jimbo
Sunday 06th of November 2011 21:46:36
Most of these players came through the Rutherglen Academy of street football. That is where you learn the game playing with your pals on the street.
Posted by Jim
Saturday 05th of November 2011 00:26:21
Football is in the blood of Ruglonians. Enjoy it. But the Greatest team needs to be more than just good players: they need to be winners.
Posted by Town cryer
Friday 04th of November 2011 23:39:00
Is there anyone on this list whose ability was so impressive that you tried to copy them? Then you find out you couldn't. Pass a ball like Bobby Murdoch or score a poachers goal like Stevie Archibald or tackle hard but cleanly like the great Harry Haddock ? There are many players on this list to be admired. Football in Rutherglen is special: I think we have had more good players of any other place in the country of our population size.
Posted by Frankie
Friday 04th of November 2011 23:30:46
I agree with the comments below from Jose M. Loads of different characters are needed for a good team. I know of one guy on this list who was the most easy going person off the park, and a school teacher, but put him on a park and he would kick the head off his granny. He wanted to win. Some of the players on this list were brilliant on the pitch, but more reserved off it. We should not forget that every tean also needs a good Hacker. The guy who would take a red card for the team no problem. This Rutherglen team is going to be some team. Keep voting !!
Posted by Peter
Friday 04th of November 2011 23:21:55
Football is much more than just the 90 minutes. It is fascinating and the characters and memories are brilliant. Everyone remembers their first game and favourite player. But also the humour. Rutherglen is full of guys who love their their football. Go into any pub after a game and you will hear opinions, arguments, funny comments. Players from rival teams socialise together over a beer and Havana's finest Cuban and talk nonsense. The Rutherglen Greatest team chat would be great.
Posted by Jose M
Friday 04th of November 2011 21:45:55
You get lots of characters in a dressing room: the style icon who dresses like Rod Stewart on a bad night: the ones who spit the dummy out when criticised: the ones who talk a good game but put their boots on the wrong feet and don't know their right from left: the experienced ones who are vocal in talking about " the good old day": the dafties: the ones who have more ASBOs than medals and always checking the police are not outside the dressing room door: the good looking ones ( in their world ) who meet Miss World up the dancing every wekend : the ones with a glass ankle who are always injured but seem to enjoy the massage treatment: quick players and slow players: players who do not understand the offside rule: the ones who cheat at training but want to play every Saturday: bubbly characters: the ones who always turn up late without their boots: the one who thinks he as good as Messi: the one who will never pass the ball: I am sure the Rutherglen Greatest team dressing room will be
Posted by DANNY
Friday 04th of November 2011 21:17:16
You are right boss: you need a good dressing room. You also need good music to pump you up before a game. And you need good talkers for all those long away trips in the mini bus.
Posted by the Boss
Friday 04th of November 2011 21:06:16
Footballers in a dressing room are like hunters who can smell their prey – if they sense weakness they’ll kill you. Pranks and patter are part of football: Who would be the biggest character in the Rutherglen Greatset team dressing room ? - Whose banter is hilarious ? Every good team needs a good dressing room and different characters - do you agree?
Posted by Pat
Tuesday 01st of November 2011 09:10:05
Rutherglen received the status of Royal Burgh in 1126 by Royal Charter from King David 1 of Scotland. The Ancient town with that big wide Main Street has been around a long long time. Good pies, good beer, beautiful women, good pubs, and brilliant footballers have been in the Burgh throughout the ages. Thanks God and keep up the Good Work. Cannae wait to see who ends up in the Rutherglens Greatest team of all time.
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 30th of October 2011 17:30:36
There is a book called " Wee Boys from Glasgow Don't Cry " by Peter Stanway. He lived in Fernhill and went to Cathkin Primary and then onto the Rutherglen Academy. It is an amazing life story of the things he has done. It is nothing to with football, but it struck me how true the title is. It could be " Wee Boys from Rutherglen Don't Cry when Playing Football. If someone kicks you,you just kick them back ". There was lots of tough hard players around the Rutherglen teams when I was growing up. Can you imagine another team booting Rutherglens Greatest Team off the park - no chance.
Posted by admin
Sunday 30th of October 2011 17:24:04
Please see the name Charlie Smith on the Players List: He played in 4 Scottish Cup finals with 3 different clubs before the age of 16. - Is that a record for a Ruglonian ?
Posted by the Oracle
Sunday 30th of October 2011 12:08:03
Does anyone out there remember a team called the Rutherglen Echo ? In the forties and early fifties. They lost to Bandanes from the Isle of Bute in the Division A versus Division B play-off. Would be interested if any of the more mature readers/contributors to this website have any info. Many thanks.
Posted by anonymous
Sunday 30th of October 2011 11:16:42
Does anyone remember the Spittal Rangers team from the 1960's.? They once got to a final up at Springburn in the early 1960's, but were two jerseys short for their team. Somebody went out and nicked a few jerseys from the local church ! - The team had players like Joe McCarry,Titch Cameron, Alastair Baxter, Billy Murdoch . - Billy missed a penalty that night.
Posted by Banksy
Saturday 29th of October 2011 11:07:18
The physio for the Rutherglens Greatest team would have to be Jim Fallon who came from Springhall. He is now the SFA Head of Physiotherapy at the National Sportse Medecine Centre at Hampden. - Check out his football career on the list of Rutherglens Greatest players.
Posted by Gerry
Saturday 29th of October 2011 08:50:06
Lots of good ex pros in this team. Good looking team on paper. A few with European winners medals. There is not many players from Ruglen who have played in the Madrid El Classico. - I always liked Steve Archibald as a player. He would be my captain. If you have never seen him play live, then checkout YOUTUBE.COM. - Also the 1986 European Cup semi final in 1986 Barca v Goteburg. One of the most dramatic semis ever played. Not sure why the Rutherglen Pele was not playing in that game.
Posted by A Rutherglen Wag.
Friday 28th of October 2011 23:12:30
I dont know much about football or the 11 players in your team. But I think you should extend this site and make a section called the 10 Most Handsome footballers from Rutherglen. That is one team photo I would like to see on a calendar in my Christmas stocking. Bye Bye need to get back to my litre bottle of Friday night white wine. Will post again later after a few more large glasses. Hic.
Posted by John
Friday 28th of October 2011 21:59:57
Probably the best football strip ever in the is the gold and blue of Brazil. This should be the team colours for Rutherglens Greatest team. With a big badge on the front of the Rutherglen Coat of Arms " Ex Fumo Fama ". And numbers on the Back like the good old days. Anybody got any better suggestions ? For the away jersey it has got to be Dukla Prague jersey : “All I Want For Christmas Is A Dukla Prague Away Kit” - remember that sang by Half-Man, Half-Biscuit ? - Or maybe be should just stick to the Black and White Hoops of the Glens. One of the best strips in junior football.
Posted by Mrs.Carrots
Friday 28th of October 2011 19:57:31
I did not know that John was an expert on the taverns of Rutherglen. You learn something new reading this site. Every day is a school day.
Posted by carrots
Friday 28th of October 2011 11:22:40
chapmans is full of rutherglens finest ex players and their beer is excellent.years ago the vogue was most footballers preference and even the fairways back in the 8os
Posted by anonymous
Thursday 27th of October 2011 20:58:40
Best pub in Ruggie for watchin footie has to be the Vickie Bar. 15 flatscreen tellys and and if the games on a channel the Vickie bar will be showing it. The only sports bar in Ruggie.
Posted by John
Thursday 27th of October 2011 19:46:48
Every team and its fans needs a place to go for a beer after the game: once upon a time in Rutherglen, going back generations, there used to be a pub nearly every fifth shop along the Main Street from Chapmans to the Wallace Bar. I wonder what is the most football mad pub in Rutherglen nowadays.
Posted by John
Thursday 27th of October 2011 18:55:19
The Greatest Rutherglen team is looking good and strong in midfield. They would pass Barcelona off the park. Not sure about up front though - not sure if the two forwards would score enough goals against good defenders. It is only my opinion.
Posted by John
Thursday 27th of October 2011 18:52:38
According to Jimmy Sirrell ‘all you need for a good team is the best players’ – it’s as simple as that. If he could afford a player who was better in a certain position on his team than the one he already had he said then he would go and get him. He thought little of 4-4-2, 3-5-2 and all. All you need is the best players.
Posted by John
Thursday 27th of October 2011 18:51:44
I see that Jimmy Sirrell is on the players list now. I did not know he came from Rutherglen. He should be the Team manager of Rutherglens Greatest team. If you do not recogise this name, then do a search of his name on Google. A great manager. Jimmy went to sea in the war years and then came back to begin his professional football career. He was actually offered contracts by Celtic, Rangers and Arsenal. He told of his train journey to London with his wife to visit Herbert Chapman the legendary manager of Arsenal. ‘I didn’t like it there much and I told him so’ said Jimmy! He was straight back on the train and signed for Celtic.
Posted by anonymous
Thursday 27th of October 2011 12:10:10
What about Bama for coach
Posted by anonymous
Tuesday 25th of October 2011 20:41:21
I think Rab-I obviously didn't read the criteria when he made his comment.
Posted by Eddie
Monday 24th of October 2011 22:43:00
The Greatest team from Rutherglen would never be a defensive team or boring team to watch. Ruglonians like to see players with skills and flair and good individual skills. There has always been one man in Rutglen teams who could turn a game with a single flash of brilliance. Maybe it would be someone like Tam Bennett who would beat 4 men before planting a cross onto the centres head: or maybe Stevie McKeown who scored argubably the greatest goal ever seen at Fernhill pitches when he ran the length of the field and scored a peach. The Rutherglen team would play the Rutherglen way: every game would be a good match to watch. I am looking forward to seeing the Greatest team once all the Votes are counted and the clock is stopped. Every player on this list must have been good: I am sure everyone must have momentoes and some proud memories from their careers. Keep the stories coming.
Posted by Jackie
Sunday 23rd of October 2011 19:06:31
Did anybody ever play up at the Cathkin Braes under the flag pole. ? A couple of pieces on cheese and a bottle of water and you were up there all day. Sunshine, football, fresh air, fun with your pals. You canne beat it.
Posted by john hislop,,site entertainments manager
Sunday 23rd of October 2011 04:14:24
hello....my names JOHN HISLOP..im a local gentleman..ive been reading your get together post,,,im 71 years of age and have been doing a computer course in the mitchell library in the city centre,,i have a lot of spare time ,,and would love to help out on the site/////first of all ..i would love to volunteer my services for the get together///i play ,,to a very high standard the accordion,,so if the get together came off i would love to provide some back ground entertainment...i will leave you with a list of some of the songs i would be able to entertain with////song 1..youll always be a primrose to me/2.across the sea and far away,,3.on the top of a hill i found my love,,4 rappers delight....5//2/4/6/8/never 2 late
Posted by agnes windsor
Sunday 23rd of October 2011 03:57:22
hello...i would be very interested...please let me know the details..ive got a spare pair of brogues ,,if any one needs them.....im 83 years old,,,ps ,,my friend may also come,,shes a young thing,,shes only 77...she has a broken ankle...she damaged it dreeping out her loft....but hopefully shell manage
Posted by mk
Sunday 23rd of October 2011 00:43:36
wouldnt it be nice,if we could borrow a very large table,preferably round,and organise a get together,and have a chat about this fantastic site,,and about the team selections etc etc,,we could ask for a corner in chapmans,,and maybe wee john crozier could provide tea n coffee///we could all bring something to the table,,apart from our chat and humour,,i think we could all bring some food ( cakes ,scones etc ),,let me know if theres any interest....NICE N COSY
Posted by mk
Saturday 22nd of October 2011 21:43:54
admin guy,,wee request,,could u remove photos ...from paul tortalani...and john terr jackson..cheers
Posted by Big Tam
Saturday 22nd of October 2011 20:39:49
Playing football in the street is great experience but what if it's a busy road and there's a lot of cars going past?
Posted by Rab-I
Saturday 22nd of October 2011 15:38:13
You should have 2 teams, the real Pro Team, and one for the pub team select who could'nt make the grade but made the Pub's instead......
Posted by George
Saturday 22nd of October 2011 13:37:03
Nice website. I know lots of the older names and players who have been nominated. Rutherglen always had good teams: I used to love the street football games. Also nice funny comments from the younger generation. Make me laugh out loud. This is the way football mates should get on: a football dressing room is a unique place to be. I still miss the nonsense, Jackanory stories and the chat of football people. I also like the way the football diagram above keeps changing: there are some cracking teams being picked. Finally, who is the next great young footballer from Rutherglen? Any names I should be watching our for in the future ? Keep up the good work. I will have a look through my old scrapbook to see if there is any old images I can load on the Gallery. cheers.
Posted by Scott C
Friday 21st of October 2011 13:03:50
Terry Frew should be the trainer. Used to love his training at Rutherglen. Terry was the only guy that could cram 90 minutes training into 30 mins. We called it microwave training lol
Posted by mk
Thursday 20th of October 2011 22:07:23
dan cowan...bunny hops round the track at fernhill....BIG DAN FOR THE TEAMS TRAINER
Posted by Geordie
Thursday 20th of October 2011 20:28:17
Who would your trainer be for Rutherglens Greatest team? Do you remember anyone who made training really tough but enjoyable? Did you run around that big track at Fernhill Park in the snow having to do a lap in 40 seconds or you had to do it again ? Or the nights when it was raining non stop and you were soaked to the skin, but loved it. Or the trainer who would never trained with a ball ?Did you like training ? Who is the fittest player in Rutherglen?
Posted by rab thomson
Thursday 20th of October 2011 20:18:10
must comment on john mccarrons post...ive got fond memories of martin and jim..played with martin in a few teams...i also played for st marks ,when jim was the manager...two cracking guys
Posted by Paul
Thursday 20th of October 2011 12:10:32
Great having a look through all the names,played with a lot and know most,but the thing that sticks out for me is the friendships that have been forged through the football which probably wouldn't have happened but for football,it brings a warm glow.Most the players mentioned have not made much money from the game but the friendship brings a different kind of riches.I've also been to a few divorce parties through the football but I put that down to wummin not understanding the game.
Posted by rab-I
Wednesday 19th of October 2011 20:13:07
who picked this team someone who knows nothing about football
Posted by carrots mccarron
Wednesday 19th of October 2011 13:38:46
must give a mention to martin mcallister who sadly died an untimely death . martin was a great player to have in your team,when he wasnt getting sent off. sadly too with reference to the previous poster jim callaghan ,st marks and third lanark amateurs manager, passed away a couple of years ago
Posted by Mrs Wylie
Wednesday 19th of October 2011 11:31:01
Wylies a must
Posted by Matt
Sunday 16th of October 2011 19:34:02
I remember growing up, playing football in the street. Everyone had a favourite "big' team and a 'local' team. ( The Glens, the Clyde, school team, etc ) Wherever you would go in Rutherglen everyone would be playing football all the time, everywhere. There was no internet or mobile phones then to find out the scores. You got the scores from the papers or the old tele printer on the telly.
Posted by old George
Sunday 16th of October 2011 17:01:11
The early footballs were made of animal bladders wrapped in leathers. They lost their shape during a game and became very heavy when it rained - does anyone remember playing with these? Players also nailed studs into their heavy leather work boots which were ankly high. They could give you a sore one with a late tackle.
Posted by anonymous
Friday 14th of October 2011 20:02:04
Does anybody remember playing at the Overtoun Park on the black ash parks ? When you came off the park you were black from head to foot. And the showers never worked.
Posted by old Frank
Wednesday 12th of October 2011 20:18:45
Nice wee site : it feels like a football social history of Rutherglen with a compilation of nice wee quotes/stories. But it needs more old photographs. I like the way the above team keeps changing. I remember the rock hard gravel parks down at the Overtoun. You could do your self some damage if you fell on those pointy chuckies on the parks.
Posted by anonymous
Wednesday 12th of October 2011 20:09:30
fernhill goalie??geo lindsay
Posted by George Yardley jnr
Tuesday 04th of October 2011 21:23:35
The answer to Shugs question on the 17/9 the goalie (cat) that played for fernhill was Martin Legget
Posted by admin
Tuesday 20th of September 2011 11:07:26
If there are any players that you think should be in the team, nominate them!
Posted by Old Bob
Saturday 17th of September 2011 23:31:06
What about Alex Bennett ? He joined Celtic in May 1903 from Rutherglen Glencairn. He was described in reports as "...a veritable artful dodger with rare speed and command of the ball ". He later joined Rangers as a free agent in 1908. ( long before Mo Johnston). When he stopped playing ,he became manager of Third Lanark.
Posted by John C
Saturday 17th of September 2011 23:26:13
Jimmy " Napoleon" McMenemy should be in the team. He played for Celtic from 1902 to 1920. He made 515 appearances and scored 168 goals.He was part of the famous Celtic team that won six league titles in a row between 1904-1910.He also won seven Scottish Cup medals – 1904, 1907, 1908, 1911, 1912, 1914 and 1921. ( One with Partick Thistle). I think Jimmy or his family lived in King Street.
Posted by Shug
Saturday 17th of September 2011 11:50:58
Who was the wee goalie that played for Fernhill ? I think he was nick named The Cat. Great shot stopper but could not get to the high crosses. Brave as a lion and would dive at anybody's feet no matter how big to stop a goal.
Posted by Old Pat
Saturday 17th of September 2011 09:25:03
Sonny Harvey from Blackfaulds Rd should be in the team. He was an inside forward and played with the Regent Star team. His brother was Tucker who played with the Morton.
Posted by Eddie
Saturday 17th of September 2011 09:13:20
Where would this team play their games - there is no football pitches around the town now is there ? Bring back the black ash pitches. You never seen anybody diving on those old parks.
Posted by Sammy
Saturday 17th of September 2011 09:09:56
Who would be the MANAGER of this team? My vote would be for big John Daly who was a school teacher from Blairbeth. He was manager of Avoca for years. There was lots of local guys who devoted a lot of their time to run and organise teams. Other to consider would be Jock Barkey ( Cathkin United ), Michael "Spud" Murphy and Jim Callaghan ( Third Lanark), George Campbell, big Jimmy Martin, George Yardley, ( Fernhill ), and many others. Who would you want as Manager ?
Posted by Big Joe
Saturday 17th of September 2011 08:45:53
I think this team would beat any other town team in the country. This team has power, pace, and loads of good natural footballers. This team would definetely beat a greatest XL from East Kibride or Cambuslang. Not sure if it would be a greatest XL from Castlemilk though. Lots of good players came from the scheme ( Arthur Graham, Eddie Gray, Ray Houghton, Alex O'Hara, Jim McInally) and many more. Rutherglen Greatest V Castlemilk Greatest - now that would be some game.
Posted by Gordon
Friday 16th of September 2011 13:39:38
Was Dick McLaughlin the toughest player to play for Fenhill? I remember thed ay he got involved in an off the ball incident against a team from Larkhall and a pitch battle started. Tough but fair player.
Posted by Matt
Friday 16th of September 2011 13:31:16
What position did Danny Burhke play? Was he a mid field player or a Centre half. I heard that he should have made the very top grade of football but preferred to follow his favourite Big team from Glasgow ona Saturday afternoon.
Posted by AN..
Wednesday 14th of September 2011 13:55:47
Where is Andy Walker??? Does Frank McGarvey count - since I keep seeing him in Rutherglen?

Rutherglen's Greatest XI

1: Neil Carr

2: Alan Forsyth
3: Tich Ward
4: Andy Martin

5: Bobby Murdoch
6: Billy Murdoch
7: James Murdoch
8: Willie Divers
9: Bernie Grant

10: Steve Archibald
11: Aiden McGeady

Of course that isn't the whole story. There were nearly 200 players nominated for Rutherglen's Greatest, and you can view and comment on them all on the Players Page.